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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Only older people know Maserati in its prime. Those who admired the 1960s Ghibli, Bora etc. which were equal or better than the contemporary Ferraris. These people are too old to buy supersports cars now.

    Since then Maserati had nothing worthy to offer. Currently, the Levante and the new Ghibli are very ordinary drives that haven't managed to raise the image.

    Some people will like the MC20 for some of its attributes but very few will buy it. Like the girl whom many tend to like but nobody decides to get married to her.


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    Agree and it's a pity. Problem is that at this age and time cars are getting so sophisticated that is almost impossible for companies like Maserati to compete with Porsche or Ferrari. The budget (and human resources) of these companies to develop new cars are so big that companies like Maserati will always lose. In this respect is the route of Lotus better bring a  fairly simple and  affordable car to the market.

     

     


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    I always liked the Maserati Shamal as well, thought it was just so different to everything else at the time ….


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    Whoopsy:

    When I think of Maserati, I think of someone walking into a Ferrari dealership and got rejected to buy a Ferrari, but they got offered a Maserati instead.

    Or, one walks into a Lamborghini dealer and trying to buy a Huracan, and instead got direct to walk across the street to get a Audi R8.

    Or going into a Lexus dealer to get a ES and got sent to a Toyota dealership to get a Camry.

    Maserati simply just don't have the brand power.

    To me, the mention of "Maserati" makes me think of a car with the reliability issues of a Fiat, at 5x the repair cost. No thanks. Smiley


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    I ordered for Madame the first year of the QuattroPorte - the  first launch shape was beautiful in Grigio Nuvolari and Couio interior. BUT of course mechanical issues and Maserati bought it back.  Then they changed that gorgeous shape to just another boring car.

    And she switched to the current at the time 600S AMG which is a hot potato too, never to be owned out of warranty.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Car and Driver Comparison Test: 2022 Maserati MC20 vs. 2021 Porsche 911 Turbo S Lightweight






     


    2nd Place:

    2022 Maserati MC20

    Highs: Striking looks, surprisingly comfy cabin, 207.6 horsepower per liter.
    Lows: Performance numbers don't match price, V-6 blat.
    Verdict: A giant step forward for Maserati that would be even better with a little more power and less weight.

     

    1st Place:

    2021 Porsche 911 Turbo S Lightweight

    Highs: It'll dust just about everything, kind of practical, looks like other 911s.
    Lows: Costs $223,230, looks like other 911s.
    Verdict: Your perception of speed will be permanently recalibrated.

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    The Maserati is beautiful, no doubt. Also, in speed limited countries, the Turbo S is pointless in my opinion. Perfection can be boring. Smiley I always loved the Turbo S and I always loved the 911 but right now, the only 911 models I would buy are the GT models. Once we have a speed limit in Germany (and with the current energy crisis, this could come faster than we think), cars like the Turbo S are not really interesting anymore. You need something fun for twisty roads and while the Turbo S is fast as hell even on those twisty roads, it is going to become boring fast.

    As a daily driver performance car, the 911 Turbo S knows no substitute though. 


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    Agreed.  Unless you run the American Wild West hidden on the 2 lanes, it's hard to run 100-160 mph all day long anymore.

    Hammer down sweepers in 2008 GT2.  Just gloriouskiss

     

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    More attention will go to 356 and older Ferrari's where looks and feel rather than 150 mph performance are the thing.


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    kiss


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    kisskisskiss

    Enjoyed that video.


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    The Porsche 911 Turbo S Lightweight


     

     


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    Porsche 911 Turbo S 2022 Pikes Peak Winner- Carfection

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOw0YAatUKg


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    BONES:

    Porsche 911 Turbo S 2022 Pikes Peak Winner- Carfection

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOw0YAatUKg

    Good one Smiley


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    Grant:
    BONES:

    Porsche 911 Turbo S 2022 Pikes Peak Winner- Carfection

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOw0YAatUKg

    Good one Smiley

    SmileySmileySmiley

    The last 3rd of the run was IFR at best Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Please tell me what wheels are these?  ThanksE5TguQYVcAEiZjm.jpg


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    HRE.

    Specifically HRE P101. 

    I had a set custom made for my 918 with custom width and offset to fit my winter tires. 

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Thanks Nick,

    I really like them.  Depending on wheels and the car colour of my turbo S, I will order from my pals at wheel enhancementkiss


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Has anyone put winters on their turbo S.???  Any input on which tyre helpful.  Tyre Rack only has P Zero Winters. Thanks.

     

     


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    Me.

    I run Pirelli winters on my Exclusive. Stock sizing on the OEM wheels, as I run summers on my carbon wheels. 4th season already.

    They are great on both ice and snow, the limitation factor is ground clearance.

     


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    Michelin Alpin 4 with stock wheels on 991.1 Turbo S.


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    watt:

    Has anyone put winters on their turbo S.???  Any input on which tyre helpful.  Tyre Rack only has P Zero Winters. Thanks

    The PZero Winter ist actually a pretty decent tire but in the case of the Turbo S, I would choose the version with N rating since this winter tire has been developed with Porsche together specifically for the 911's special weight distribution.
    What about your local Porsche dealer? 


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    watt:

    Has anyone put winters on their turbo S.???  Any input on which tyre helpful.  Tyre Rack only has P Zero Winters. Thanks.

     

     

    Maxige certainly has Smiley

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CnxKN-vrSQE/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Haha, love it­čĹŹ

    p 0 winters next week


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Anyone having trouble with the P brand cig lighter battery charger?  when my guy came to pick the turbo S up for tyres, the charger light was flashing green - charged - but completely dead.  He said lots of problems....  but PORSCHE has their brand  on there.....mailheart


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    It's not the the charger but the car itself. Well known problem. The cig socket shuts down by itself so the car stopped charging. 

    Charger is a rebranded Ctek, one of the best in the business, just about every car maker rebrand Ctek chargers as their own.

    I remembered someone found out a complicated combination of actions to keep the socket alive, something like plug in while the car is running or plug it in without 30 seconds of turning off the car or whatever that sounded crazy. I gave up using the in-car cig lighter socket for charging. 

    Most simple solution to the problem is to install a pig tail directly out from the battery itself. I have mine dangled out inside the front trunk. This pig tail is literally part of the PDI treatment to all my cars before delivery. 

     

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    The key is to make sure the car is locked as soon as the charger is connected. If the car is not locked it goes in to a battery saving mode which deactivates the cigar lighter socket where the charger is connected heart.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    To play it safe, if the car stays rested for a prolonged time, I plug it directly to the battery. 
    That « less then 30 seconds «  trick does work too. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Gnil:

    To play it safe, if the car stays rested for a prolonged time, I plug it directly to the battery. 
    That « less then 30 seconds «  trick does work too. 

    Smiley


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