d997h:Gnil:Great to see you back in form . Lovely photos , specially the one form our alpine roads !
In a scale of 1 to 10 being the best , how would you rate the T and the Touring in the '' driving pleasure '' department and in the '' practicality on public roads '' ?
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
How could you ask such a stupid question ????
...he may rate the T so high that I am struggeling even further to make a deal!
(still on the look for a T, however, GTS prices are starting to get lower...tempting...)
You'll end up with a Touring
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
blueflame:Gnil:If I have to rate my last 3 cars for driving pleasure on practicality on public ALPINE roads, this would be my ranking:
1. 981 Spyder (+open car is great on alpine Roads, -needs a little more power, too long gearing) 8.5 Points
2. 991.2 Carrera T (+right size auf car, Michelin4s, fuel consumption, torque, -needs better engine sound and more revs)8 Points
3. 991.2 GT3 Touring (+Power, engine/9.000rpm, racecar-feeling, -wide car, fuel consumption, ground clearance, Cups in the rain)7.9 Points
The GT3 is my dream car and it was no mistake to buy it - next week at Hockenheim it will outperfom dramatically both of the former cars.
But for my alpine tours, the other cars are more suited - the GT3 is a little bit overkill. I wrote it last year after our Spain/France tour - you can keep up with a GT3RS in a Carrera T on small curvy roads and you have almost the same driving pleasure for 70K€ less.
So a GT3 and a Carrera T is nonsense for me, therefore I will add to my garage again a used 981 Spyder for open top fun.
Blueflame
Interesting .. Now put some 4S on the Touring and you'll be at 8.3 I get the overkill , sadly . Not many possibilities on open roads to exploit the 9K rev line ......
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
Jul 5, 2019 8:03:10 PM
Gnil:blueflame:Gnil:If I have to rate my last 3 cars for driving pleasure on practicality on public ALPINE roads, this would be my ranking:
1. 981 Spyder (+open car is great on alpine Roads, -needs a little more power, too long gearing) 8.5 Points
2. 991.2 Carrera T (+right size auf car, Michelin4s, fuel consumption, torque, -needs better engine sound and more revs)8 Points
3. 991.2 GT3 Touring (+Power, engine/9.000rpm, racecar-feeling, -wide car, fuel consumption, ground clearance, Cups in the rain)7.9 Points
The GT3 is my dream car and it was no mistake to buy it - next week at Hockenheim it will outperfom dramatically both of the former cars.
But for my alpine tours, the other cars are more suited - the GT3 is a little bit overkill. I wrote it last year after our Spain/France tour - you can keep up with a GT3RS in a Carrera T on small curvy roads and you have almost the same driving pleasure for 70K€ less.
So a GT3 and a Carrera T is nonsense for me, therefore I will add to my garage again a used 981 Spyder for open top fun.
Blueflame
Interesting .. Now put some 4S on the Touring and you'll be at 8.3
I get the overkill , sadly . Not many possibilities on open roads to exploit the 9K rev line ......
Jul 6, 2019 4:28:48 PM
Last thursday we have been at the Hockenheim-Ring with the Pistenclub.
Perfect organised day, but we had only one dry stint, the rest was very wet.
My Touring and my neck made no problems...the car is just great on the track. I saw 256 Km/h on the Parabolica before the braking zone and it is rock solid, even without wing...;-).
It was no surprise that the Cup2s performance in heavy rain didn‘t impress.
Sadly the day ended bad for one member of our group - he lost his car in the rain under braking for the hairpin and smashed in the tyre barriers with the driver side. The emergency brought him to he hospital at Heidelberg - 3 broken ribs and a damaged ego...
Tomorrow he can leave the hospital, so everything will be alright - the Porsche can be replaced...
Blueflame
Looks brilliant.
Why was the GT2 RS on red calipers? Something to do with the Porsche Sports Cup? I recall in Imola they did the same to be able to run steels but not to have to use an aftermarket disc to fit the yellow calipers, something along those lines?
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Porker:Looks brilliant.
Why was the GT2 RS on red calipers? Something to do with the Porsche Sports Cup? I recall in Imola they did the same to be able to run steels but not to have to use an aftermarket disc to fit the yellow calipers, something along those lines?
That's a GT3RS, the side intake is plastic not carbon.
Whoopsy:Porker:Looks brilliant.
Why was the GT2 RS on red calipers? Something to do with the Porsche Sports Cup? I recall in Imola they did the same to be able to run steels but not to have to use an aftermarket disc to fit the yellow calipers, something along those lines?
That's a GT3RS, the side intake is plastic not carbon.
Blueflame
Whoopsy:Porker:Looks brilliant.
Why was the GT2 RS on red calipers? Something to do with the Porsche Sports Cup? I recall in Imola they did the same to be able to run steels but not to have to use an aftermarket disc to fit the yellow calipers, something along those lines?
That's a GT3RS, the side intake is plastic not carbon.
My bad!
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
SC would have been such a cool car if it had been a GT3 RS underneath instead of a GTS.
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Some who follow this thread will remember my beloved 964 RS - I just found out that it is on the market again...for a silly price...;-)
Blueflame
That's just ridiculous, who pays these prices... I'd love a 964 RS but would never pay more than 70-80k EUR for something like that?
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Porker:That's just ridiculous, who pays these prices... I'd love a 964 RS but would never pay more than 70-80k EUR for something like that?
Found one many years ago for 70k EUR, thought the price is nuts (I would have paid 60k) and look now...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
Porker:That's just ridiculous, who pays these prices... I'd love a 964 RS but would never pay more than 70-80k EUR for something like that?
That is simply for a collector who has to have originality. If you want to have fun, you can build an RS or RSR replica from a C2 and have a car that drives far better (hot-rod parts and nice custom-built engine). Having a 3.6L motor with 260hp (original 964RS) is hardly cutting edge technology. The street version of RSR from 1973 already had 308hp from 2.8L...
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18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
blueflame:Today I had my car on the dyno and the result was almost exactly the claimed power - 497 HP/500HP. The exhaust tips were glowing...
The Performante of my friend had 60 HP less than the factory claimed power.
Blueflame
Uh oh, incoming RC in 3, 2, 1...