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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    d997h:

    I wonder whether an aerokit will be available for this model....Smiley ...Smiley

    someone will install the same aerokit and same larger wider wheels and tires that come on the current GT3 or GT3RS , whichever is the easiest fit ...i.e., make his own MT version of a 991.1 GT3 / GT3RS ..a "GT3 R" ..and simply  swap back ( or incl in the sale ) the retained oem parts at resale time !

    Smiley


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    2016  991 Carrera GTS  " PCA 60 "  Club Coupe       orig owner ; 1 of 60 

     


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    bluelines:

    10kg more than a base 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Overall 10kg lighter than a base Carrera but with no air con (10kg) and manual transmission (20kg) and less dampening (10kg) and Li Ion battery (10kg) Smiley


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    bluelines:

    10kg more than a base 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Very unlikely since it is supposed to be the lightest 991 road model. Smiley

    Maybe 10 g lighter than the 991.1 Carrera? Smiley Smiley Just a guess. Smiley

     


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


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    SciFrog:
    bluelines:

    10 kg plus une base 991,1 Carrera indécision

    10 kg plus léger que l'ensemble une base Carrera mais avec pas de climatisation (10 kg) et la transmission manuelle (20 kg) et moins amortissement (10 kg) et la batterie Li-ion (10 kg) Smiley

    RC give me by PM the weight, can't post here sorry guys SmileySmileySmileySmiley


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    Going against the grain here but I like it, really looking forward to the roll out! There's bound to be a few more surprises....


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    2010 997.2 GT3        2012  987.2 S BE #262/987        2016 981 GT4


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:
    bluelines:

    10kg more than a base 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Overall 10kg lighter than a base Carrera but with no air con (10kg) and manual transmission (20kg) and less dampening (10kg) and Li Ion battery (10kg) Smiley

    With manual PDK box (+30kg) and RWS (+15kg) and rear seats (+5kg)


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    SciFrog:
    bluelines:

    10kg more than a base 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Overall 10kg lighter than a base Carrera but with no air con (10kg) and manual transmission (20kg) and less dampening (10kg) and Li Ion battery (10kg) Smiley

    With manual PDK box (+30kg) and RWS (+15kg) and rear seats (+5kg)

    you forgot sunroof!!!


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


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    RC:
    bluelines:

    10kg more than a base 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Very unlikely since it is supposed to be the lightest 991 road model. Smiley

    Maybe 10 g lighter than the 991.1 Carrera? Smiley Smiley Just a guess. Smiley

     

    It can still be the lightest 991 road model since the 991.1 Carrera has been replaced by the heavier 991.2 Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    Oh, another update: Today, for the very first time, I heard a possible price tag of "up to 250k EUR". Ouch. Not sure however if this means the base car or the car with all options (PCCB for example will be optional as far as I heard).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    10kg more than a base 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Very unlikely since it is supposed to be the lightest 991 road model. Smiley

    Maybe 10 g lighter than the 991.1 Carrera? Smiley Smiley Just a guess. Smiley

     

    It can still be the lightest 991 road model since the 991.1 Carrera has been replaced by the heavier 991.2 Smiley

    and with the rumored 4.0 engine...


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    2010 997.2 GT3        2012  987.2 S BE #262/987        2016 981 GT4


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    The 911R is sounding more and more like a creation of "Dr. Frankenstein", not "Dr. Porsche".............


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    964C2:

    The 911R is sounding more and more like a creation of "Dr. Frankenstein", not "Dr. Porsche".............

    Here's the marketing guy who came up with the concept:

    Igor.jpg


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    911 R is: "...strictly limited-edition vehicle."

    Btw, saw the real thing. Can not say much more... 

    Oh, there will be a 991.2 GT3...


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    Was there any doubt there wouldn't be a 991.2 GT3?


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    KresoF1:

    911 R is: "...strictly limited-edition vehicle."

    What does that actually mean? 


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    bluelines:
    KresoF1:

    911 R is: "...strictly limited-edition vehicle."

    What does that actually mean? 

    It is a quote directly from Porsche.

    Is your love for Porsche strong enough?

    Do you qualify as extremly fluent speculator?

    Did you bought 918, 991 GT3 RS or have spotless track record in buying at least 10 Porsche vehicles?

    If the answers are yes you might be potentially satisfying costumer for 911 R... But, there are some pretty shady parts od the equation so, chances are 50/50...

    If I could predict we will see way too many 911 Rs in speculators hands.


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    KresoF1:
    Do you qualify as extremly fluent speculator?

     

    If the answers are yes you might be potentially satisfying costumer for 911 R... 

    Typo?


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    SciFrog:
    KresoF1:
    Do you qualify as extremly fluent speculator?

     

    If the answers are yes you might be potentially satisfying costumer for 911 R... 

    Typo?

    You mean about speculator?

    No. Look at 991 GT3 RS market. Do you really think that Porsche did not know the fact that around 50% of cars will end in speculator hands? Same story about normal 991.1 GT3. Now, you can find some new examples in EU which are selling for way more then 210k €. Even some official Porsche dealers are playing pretty strange games with 991 GT3 RS and 991 GT3. Kundenauftrag... Better to stop here since I could steer some not very tasty soup in the end...


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    SciFrog:
    KresoF1:
    Do you qualify as extremly fluent speculator?

     

    If the answers are yes you might be potentially satisfying costumer for 911 R... 

    Typo?

    No. It is a new rule from Porsche. Only sold to costumers.

    68DFB-costumer.png


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    Are you a speculator? YES

     

    Then you can get a 911R? Did I miss something?


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    911 R is: "...strictly limited-edition vehicle."

    Btw, saw the real thing. Can not say much more... 

    Oh, there will be a 991.2 GT3...

    it looks very wide at the back .. RS/turbo extra wide rear?


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    No. 991.1 GT3 body.


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    Actually not that many GT3RS ended up in speculators' hands. Most are now being driven by real car people.

    The few that pops up being flipped are mostly from greedy USA dealers, they saw the gold mine and $$ flashes in front of them.

    Quite few dealers were stuck ordering a 918 as 'stock' vehicle for the owners, while those ended up paying them back handsomely, the buying a of a 918 entitled those US dealer principals first dibs to great cars, and those owners have no intention of keeping any, they just see the perfect flip vehicles. 

    The greedy dealers is and will always be the bad guy, not the 918 buyers.

    Will the R ended up as a great flip vehicle? Most certainly, unless of course Porsche adjust the initial pricing first. Priced in the secondary amount and that will weed out the flippers. Yes that will make it more unaffordable for those that truly wants such a car, but they face the same obstacle on the other side of the coin where they have to buy from greedy dealers who tacks on unreal 'market adjustments'.

    The R, is a pure parts bin exercise, take off the rear wing of a GT3, swap in a manual transmission, slap on RS's roof and hood, add some mascara and voila, done. They can't make too many due to a number of reasons, not enough GT3 engines, the specialized RS parts which are in limited production, and the high emission from the manual transmission will skew their overall average if they make too many.

    No matter how loud the manual guys shout, they are still a very tiny minority, they cannot buy enough manual cars to justify Porsche making more, just be glad they are still doing it with the GT4, the Spyder, the R and perhaps some future cars.

     


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    If the car is in such demand once you weed out the speculators, Porsche should charge $250k... Why let others make the profit? Now let's see how many people with "deposits" still buy it at that price...


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    Whoopsy:

    The R, is a pure parts bin exercise, take off the rear wing of a GT3, swap in a manual transmission, slap on RS's roof and hood, add some mascara and voila, done.

    No. RC said it is truly special Smiley

     


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    SciFrog:

    If the car is in such demand once you weed out the speculators, Porsche should charge $250k... Why let others make the profit? Now let's see how many people with "deposits" still buy it at that price...

     

    If an RS is already trading above 300k, I would say they should charge at least 300k, if not more.


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:

    The R, is a pure parts bin exercise, take off the rear wing of a GT3, swap in a manual transmission, slap on RS's roof and hood, add some mascara and voila, done.

    No. RC said it is truly special Smiley

     

     

    Cause it's a unicorn, 5 more days till unveiling and Porsche still haven't acknowledged it's existence.Smiley


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    And yet they are all sold out  What a farce.


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    Anti-climax: it might turn out that the Cayman R is more special than the 991 R after all smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Long time lurker checking in . Good to see some familiar faces . 

    loving the idea of this car . Unlike may on here I hope it stays clean and uncluttered . The more "normal" this car looks the better . 👀


     
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