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    Re: BMW M5

    Ferdie:
    Rossi:
    RC:
    Ferdie:

    The fact alone that you prefer it over the pre-facelift... indecision

    Do you like the pre-facelift more? Smiley


    Or do you even own the pre-facelift? Smiley


    I bought it from Kreso. Wait, I just go and make a picture...

    Ouch! Smiley


    Re: BMW M5

    JoeRockhead:
    Ferdie:
    Rossi:
    RC:
    Ferdie:

    The fact alone that you prefer it over the pre-facelift... indecision

    Do you like the pre-facelift more? Smiley


    Or do you even own the pre-facelift? Smiley


    I bought it from Kreso. Wait, I just go and make a picture...

    Ouch! Smiley

    Smiley SmileySmileySmiley


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    Re: BMW M5

    I like that new colour though... smiley


    Re: BMW M5

    still wating for the review ........ 


    Re: BMW M5

    To be honest the fun is ending soon, that new new giant grill is butt ugly, don't think any sane person will want to be seen inside one of those.

     


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    Re: BMW M5

    Whoopsy:

    To be honest the fun is ending soon, that new new giant grill is butt ugly, don't think any sane person will want to be seen inside one of those.

     

    I can barely see a difference in the M5 update, but the new 4 series couple looks like grills gone wild  Smiley

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    Re: BMW M5

    Gladstone:
    Whoopsy:

    To be honest the fun is ending soon, that new new giant grill is butt ugly, don't think any sane person will want to be seen inside one of those.

     

    I can barely see a difference in the M5 update, but the new 4 series couple looks like grills gone wild  Smiley

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    That grill is ridiculous cheeky


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    Re: BMW M5

    Personally I like the new 4 series, especially in the M paket  exterior look and with a front plate fitted, as below.

    Cars are getting too samey and characterless and designers have to try new ideas. Take the Chris Bangle 5 and 6 series BMWs which were knocked by critics when they came out.  They look more distinguished now than the "logical" follow up models.

    BMW-4-Series-lead-image.jpg


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    Re: BMW M5

    reginos:

    Personally I like the new 4 series, especially in the M paket  exterior look and with a front plate fitted, as below.

    Cars are getting too samey and characterless and designers have to try new ideas. Take the Chris Bangle 5 and 6 series BMWs which were knocked by critics when they came out.  They look more distinguished now than the "logical" follow up models.

    BMW-4-Series-lead-image.jpg


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    Bangle design cues are easy to soften up and integrate, this giant grill on the other hand..................

    Only way to integrate would be to make it smaller and smaller Smiley


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    Re: BMW M5

    Bangle cars are still hideous - with the exception of the e60 msport touring.


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    Re: BMW M5

    I'm with Whoopsy.  That 4er gaping grill is awful, perhaps the worst-looking on the market.  None of Bangle's designs are anywhere near that ugly.


    Re: BMW M5

    I don't think BMW haven't evaluated this new face/grill through their consumer clinics. They don't leave such things to chance.

    I believe that following an initial reaction,  it will grow on BMW customers new and old as a sign of dynamism and performance.

    BMW make so many models in different segments now, so different versions of the "Niere" are inevitable.
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    Re: BMW M5

    BMW isn't the first to do a enormous grill. 

    Audi did it and it aged really well now. 

    Lexus also did the same thing but it still looks as ugly as ever.

    Wonder which way the bunny teeth grill will go?


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    Re: BMW M5

    Ferdie:
    Rossi:
    RC:
    Ferdie:

    The fact alone that you prefer it over the pre-facelift... indecision

    Do you like the pre-facelift more? Smiley


    Or do you even own the pre-facelift? Smiley


    I bought it from Kreso. Wait, I just go and make a picture...

    Smiley


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    Re: BMW M5

    Whoopsy:

    BMW isn't the first to do a enormous grill. 

    Audi did it and it aged really well now. 

    Lexus also did the same thing but it still looks as ugly as ever.

    Wonder which way the bunny teeth grill will go?

    The difference being that the Audi singleframe grill is nicely integrated with the rest of the car’s design. The BMW grill is the opposite. It stands out. Too much 


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    Re: BMW M5

    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:

    BMW isn't the first to do a enormous grill. 

    Audi did it and it aged really well now. 

    Lexus also did the same thing but it still looks as ugly as ever.

    Wonder which way the bunny teeth grill will go?

    The difference being that the Audi singleframe grill is nicely integrated with the rest of the car’s design. The BMW grill is the opposite. It stands out. Too much 

     

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    Re: BMW M5

    Whoopsy:

    BMW isn't the first to do a enormous grill. 

    Audi did it and it aged really well now. 

    Lexus also did the same thing but it still looks as ugly as ever.

    Wonder which way the bunny teeth grill will go?

    Audi did it right, BMW not. The new BMW grill certainly makes the new cars more distinctive and recognizable but I don't know, I think it is too much. I saw a camouflaged car but the grill was not and it looked...how to put it...different. Smiley Way too much in my opinion.


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    Re: BMW M5

    Personally, I prefer the Audi and BMW look of the 80s.

    BMW has done it before (with the F20), if customers don't like the new grill they will change it in the facelift model.

    Not only BMWs but many other modern cars grow in dimensions every time there is a new model. Still I don't understand why the auto industry will do that when there is no really a need for all these new models.


    Re: BMW M5

    Whoopsy:

    Think that's the M5 and not the M5 Competition though.

    But doesn't quite matter. The M5 Competition is pretty much the best bargain for a 4 door performance sedan.

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/bmw-m5-cs-said-to-come-later-this-year-with-641-horsepower/ar-BB15OLrV?ocid=msnews


    Re: BMW M5

     

    Tyre: Pirelli P Zero Corsa

     

     

     

    sport auto Hockenheim-GP Rundenzeiten:

    1. McLaren Senna 1.40,8 min
    2. Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series 1.43,3 min
    3. Manthey-Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR 1.43,5 min
    4. McLaren 720S 1.45,5 min
    5. Ferrari 488 Pista 1.45,9 min

    .....

    Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4-Türer (Cup 2): 1.52,8 min
    Porsche 911 Carrera S (992): 1.53,3 min
    BMW M5 CS(PZero Corsa): 1.53,6 min
    Audi R8 V10 RWD: 1.54,2 min
    BMW M5 Competition(PZero): 1.54,2 min
    Chevrolet Corvette (C8): 1.54,6 min
    Audi R8 V10 Spyder Performance: 1.55,2 min
    Toyota GR Supra (Japan-Import) 1.55,3 min
    BMW M850i xDrive Coupé: 1.57,0 min
    Audi RS7 Sportback: 1.57,3 min

     

    0.6s faster...but with better tires. Smiley

     

     


    Re: BMW M5

    I'm sure it's enough for KresoF1 to buy one!


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    Re: BMW M5

    What part of the difference could be attributed to the more speedy tyres? Probably the entire 0.6s.


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    Re: BMW M5

    He probably owns one right now 


    Re: BMW M5

    hunterone:

    He probably owns one right now 

    Yeah...in a 1:18 scale. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: BMW M5

    not only one, one for him and one for his brother


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    Re: BMW M5

    BMW M5 CS

    635PS


    Re: BMW M5

    Yep...70 kg less weight. Smiley


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    Re: BMW M5

    The best mid size sports sedan just got better.

     


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    Re: BMW M5

    Well... at least the grill looks normal... 


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    Re: BMW M5

    Pentium:

    Well... at least the grill looks normal... 

    My first thought exactly!


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