Crown

Forum - Thread


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    I do miss the trunklid and roof as introduced on the RS and R, it really does a lot for the look of the car imo.


    --

    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2013 MINI John Cooper Works GP / 2014 BMW Alpina D3 biturbo Touring


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Not sure if this has been posted (I got this from Rennlist Macca posted it) but what do you make of it. Notice the hp. You think this will be in the .2GT3? 485hp? Seems low to me. A cup car is much lighter.

    991.2 GT3 Cup engine spec.png


    --

    One of history's few iron laws is that luxuries tend to become necessities and to spawn new obligations.


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Those are the specs from the new Cup - road car likely to be similar (but not necessarily identical).  For reference, the 991.1 GT3 made 440 NM of torque and made its slightly lower power 750 rpm higher (8,250 rpm) on the tach.

    Th 911R and RS with 4.0L made 20 NM less (440 NM) despite same displacement.


    --

     

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    485 @ 7500 rpm, this is not an engine at full capacity. Maybe restrictions apply.


    --

    2016 Cayman GT4 - 1992 964 Carrera 2 - 2016 Macan S Diesel - 2013 Mini Cooper S


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Mikla:

    485 @ 7500 rpm, this is not an engine at full capacity. Maybe restrictions apply.

    Maybe - or maybe it is a reflection of some of the changes made to increase reliability (like a new camshaft profile that holds an oil film better for real lubrication)...


    --

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Grant:

    Th 911R and RS with 4.0L made 20 NM less (440 NM) despite same displacement.

    Typo - the R and RS had 460NM and Cup (and possibly 991.2 GT3) has 480 NM.


    --

     

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Grant, would we be able to tell the 20NM difference?yes


    --

    One of history's few iron laws is that luxuries tend to become necessities and to spawn new obligations.


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    nberry:

    Grant, would we be able to tell the 20NM difference?yes

    My point was that the torque benefit of the 4.0L over the 3.8L in the 991.1 generation (20 NM and could be felt) is now twice as big in the 991.2 generation (and the power comes on sooner too).


    --

     

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Grant:
    nberry:

    Grant, would we be able to tell the 20NM difference?yes

    My point was that the torque benefit of the 4.0L over the 3.8L in the 991.1 generation (20 NM and could be felt) is now twice as big in the 991.2 generation (and the power comes on sooner too).

    I doubt the increase in peak torque itself is much noticeable, the difference is less than 5% on a sunny day, but rather the overall increase of the torque curve. Right?


    --

    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Going from 440 Nm in 991.1 GT3 to 480 Nm in 991.2 GT3 is an increase of 9.1% and will be easily felt and make an amazing marriage to the wider ratios of the 6spd Manual!

    Assuming Cup torque is indicative of road car...


    --

     

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    ...and I am sure it's 0.1-0.2 sec faster to 100 indecision


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Amazing looking car, the more I see e more I like it, even the huge wing fits well hereSmiley


    --

    J.Seven

     

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    The GT3 IS the best looking 911. Its got a bit of that,,, and a bit of that too indecision....


    --

    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Well I am gonna drive the .2 Cup car this coming Monday and Tuesday, at Portimao................................

     


    --

     

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    14963221_1771069583151129_3306885306968455911_n.jpg
    14938165_1771069616484459_2831577856529899638_n.jpg
    14883544_1771070433151044_3442610642936848834_o.jpg

    The cars Porsche brings out for the 918 training course in Portugal.


    --

     

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Sometime life is a b*tch  Smiley

    I suffer from major envy.

    Please keep us updated!

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    A re-education through driving camp; cool! Much better than re-education through labor :) 

     

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    Well I am gonna drive the .2 Cup car this coming Monday and Tuesday, at Portimao................................

     

    Cool Smiley  Look forward to your review.


    --

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    BjoernB:

    ...and I am sure it's 0.1-0.2 sec faster to 100 indecision

    Not too worried about 0-100, but I think it's likely that a Manual .2 will be as fast on a track as .1 PDK-S and the .2 PDK-S will be as fast as .1 RS Smiley


    --

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Not sure I will have the ability to drive it hard enough to make a difference. When I drove the .1 Cup car for a 3 days school I think I only cover 60% of the car's ability. 

    That was part of my decision to go for a ClubSport instead of a Cup car. Time wise, I am about 10-15 seconds off the pros in my track, which is a like a 130 second lap, so about 10-ish % off. Far closer than I was doing in the Cup car at Leipzig against the pros, I was like 20+ seconds behind them.


    --

     

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    Not sure I will have the ability to drive it hard enough to make a difference. When I drove the .1 Cup car for a 3 days school I think I only cover 60% of the car's ability. 

    That was part of my decision to go for a ClubSport instead of a Cup car. Time wise, I am about 10-15 seconds off the pros in my track, which is a like a 130 second lap, so about 10-ish % off. Far closer than I was doing in the Cup car at Leipzig against the pros, I was like 20+ seconds behind them.

    Yeah, I imagine someone could continue to improve for years in a Cup before finding the car's limit...

    Would be interesting if you feel any difference with the power delivery (i.e. stronger midrange and less on top, for example) and if you hear any interesting news that could apply to the 991.2 street GT3...


    --

     

     

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    this treat is worthless without VIDEO....


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    Well I am gonna drive the .2 Cup car this coming Monday and Tuesday, at Portimao................................

     

    Hey Nick,

    from your connections, do you know the exact hp of new GT3?  485hp does not seem much of an upgrade.  From history, new GT3 always have same or more hp than outgoing RS. 

    if only 485hp, I may still buy one, but only hold for few months, and then flip for small profit...Smiley


    --

    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S
     


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Portimao is my favourite track together with Spa and the Ring. Ups and downs including blind corners looking seemingly the Same present a big challenge, the crest going into the final corner is a real bum clincher.

    Have fun 

    Mike


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    My lap in a modified GT3 with cup axles, brakes, wheels and seats from February.

    https://youtu.be/djVBzoUsFGQ


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    kiss


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    M3ike:

    My lap in a modified GT3 with cup axles, brakes, wheels and seats from February.

    https://youtu.be/djVBzoUsFGQ

    Nice job - looks fun!


    --

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Hey Nick, will they have a .2GT3RS? Those .2 Cup cars would provide a model for one.


    --

    One of history's few iron laws is that luxuries tend to become necessities and to spawn new obligations.


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    Well I am gonna drive the .2 Cup car this coming Monday and Tuesday, at Portimao................................

     

    and you are going to end up ordering one , Good bye GT4 !!! Smiley


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Gnil:
    Whoopsy:

    Well I am gonna drive the .2 Cup car this coming Monday and Tuesday, at Portimao................................

    and you are going to end up ordering one , Good bye GT4 !!! Smiley

    Smiley

     


    --

    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part I) Thread Closed 9/24/20 12:47 AM
    watt
    629552 2849
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 12/30/20 9:03 AM
    rhino
     
     
     
     
     
    389396 1279
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020) 7/4/21 12:06 PM
    nberry
    91490 1094
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 7/28/21 4:07 PM
    pgouveia
    49395 354
    Porsche Sticky ROAD TEST: New 992 Carrera 4S 3/3/21 10:57 PM
    Wonderbar
    37372 336
    Porsche Sticky Porsche Taycan Turbo S - Short Review 10/19/20 6:12 PM
    Leawood911
    34882 380
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 7/30/21 10:05 AM
    Porker
    21582 464
    Porsche Sticky Porsche extends the Taycan model range (Taycan 2WD) 2/1/21 12:42 PM
    Leawood911
    5739 29
    Porsche Cayman GT4 5/4/21 4:46 PM
    Topspeed
    446615 3586
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 6/25/21 2:56 PM
    the-missile
    373581 3506
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 6/22/21 5:42 PM
    Topspeed
    373260 3917
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 4/28/21 12:26 PM
    W8MM
    335935 3252
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 12/8/20 7:51 PM
    DJM48
    312688 2646
    Porsche Tesla Roadster 9/23/20 8:22 PM
    bluelines
    279317 4279
    Porsche OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 7/20/21 3:10 PM
    Topspeed
    239302 1567
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016) 2/11/21 9:22 AM
    Itsme
    163606 1379
    Porsche 992 GT3 7/31/21 11:32 PM
    bvineyards
    149678 2840
    Others Alfa Romeo 4C 9/23/20 10:22 AM
    RCA
    139606 792
    Lambo Lamborghini Huracan and variants 4/9/21 4:32 PM
    Topspeed
    113247 1225
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 7/30/21 4:07 PM
    WhoopsyM
    96630 735
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 7/5/21 4:30 PM
    BjoernB
    80031 1221
    McLaren F1 7/10/21 7:43 AM
    BiTurbo
    78574 209
    AMG AMG GT R 7/8/21 3:07 PM
    CGX car nut
    67307 824
    Lambo Aventador and SV 7/10/21 1:17 AM
    4trac
    67118 697
    Porsche 991 Speedster 9/3/20 4:29 PM
    Topspeed
    64274 878
    Porsche Nürburgring - Tesla vs. Taycan 11/23/20 6:10 PM
    Topspeed
    46715 596
    Others Bugatti Chiron 7/22/21 6:55 PM
    Topspeed
    38414 480
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 6/24/21 6:30 PM
    Porker
    35206 531
    Porsche Olive 991.2 GT3 Clubsport 1/1/21 7:58 PM
    throt
    35185 615
    BMW M BMW M2 Rumors 7/7/21 8:38 PM
    Jim_in_Iowa
    29970 394
    269 items found, displaying 1 to 30.