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    Re: 992 GT3

    I have no further info concerning P. deliveries - however, my service contact at my P. dealership told me yesterday that they are still getting told the "chip and backlog story" for new or replacement parts involving chips etc ... so, "business as usual" ...


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    Wonderbar:

    Hey folks, a bit off topic but I am interested in the reasons there is such a delay in 992s being produced and delivered, particularly for the U.S.  I live in the largest Porsche dealer sales area in the U.S. , and no dealer has had any new production 992s or any model since last summer at least.  I am aware of the worldwide "chip" problem, and backups at U.S. ports, but what else if anything is going on?  And does anyone know when allocations and deliveries will start up normally again?

    Thanks, in advance..

    Well, maybe Porsche should do what BMW does: Deliver for example their touchscreen infotainment systems without a...touchscreen. Smiley No wireless charging or digital keys either available for BMWs. 

    Yes, the chip issue not only involves entertainment features but also electronic modules like ECUs or body control units or whatever. These parts cannot be easily replaced for various reasons (safety, testing, certification, etc.).


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    I'm so lucky I've received my car.... now following the 1500kms break in period and the weather isn't helping me put on the kms.....only 400 kms in 5 days :(


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    Tell us more 

    Harry’s garage makes out it’s not a good road car which is contrary to actual owners feedback


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    RC:
     

    Well, maybe Porsche should do what BMW does: Deliver for example their touchscreen infotainment systems without a...touchscreen. Smiley No wireless charging or digital keys either available for BMWs. 

     

    Yeah, I was told the other day that I will get my BMW with only limited bluetooth functionalities (which seems to include wireless charging...) in March ... Smiley


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    steelested:

    Tell us more 

    Harry’s garage makes out it’s not a good road car which is contrary to actual owners feedback

    Didn't he mainly refer to the car not having the front lift which means he couldn't visit his favourite pub / restaurant ? ... Smiley


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    SO my experience so far has been as follows, this is the third GT3 I own, 997.1, then 997.2, and now this one....circumstances didn't allow me to own a 991 GT3.

    First thing you instantly feel is the steering. So precise, but also extremely sensitive. On the low speeds, city roads and just driving around it's all good, but on the highways at speed any small movement is instantly felt.  It doesn't bother me so much now, but you have to get used to it.

    The sound is so joy full compared to the 992 S I had a year ago, without the sports exhaust. I haven't been able to push it yet since I'm still doing the break in, but if it sounds beautiful at 4-5k rpm, 9 k will be a treat. I can only say then if it's better than my previous ones.

    So I saw Harry's video before taking delivery and I was very worried. A lot of the reviews actually were saying the same thing about it not being drivable everyday as a normal car.  I did quite a few kms today of high way and city, and I wasn't really bothered. Definitely more road noise and more bumpy than the 992 S, but it is a GT3 after all. I was more worried about the buckets that I ordered, because to be honest I originally wanted the adaptive seats, but i was told it would hurt resale if I ever needed to sell in the future. I'm getting used to the seats, but for my personal use of the car, more road than track, I would spec the 18 way if I did it over again. That would just give you the more comfort for an every day car, and make you pay less attention to the stiffer suspension. The lack of reclineabilty of the buckets really hurts their functionality. 

    Inside the cabin, there is nothing I don't have. Bose system is the best one so far of all the previous gt3's. All connectivity is there, all assistance systems are there, it's not missing a single thing to make it practical to use daily (other than rear seats of course lol, but that's another discussion).  Steering wheel hides part of the instrument cluster which is annoying but you learn to live with it. Overall a very nice cabin to be in and a lot of features on the new PCM.  Even ambient lighting that changes to the music, a must have on the track! lol

     Basically from the short time I've had it and driven it, I could drive it every day if necessary, but the seats make it difficult for me to drive it for extended periods of time, without being able to adjust them. That's it for now, will keep you guys updated as I go along :)


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    I have the front lift as well and went over a few speed bumps today without needing to use it.  I forgot to mention a cool feature of this lift system, or the GPS of the car, it asks you if you would like to memorize the location where you have used the lift for future reference. So basically all the bumps around my neighborhood are now programmed into the car and it automatically lifts the front just before i get there....I found that cool


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    Excellent feedback - thanks

    Ive got the touring coming with 18 ways and lift which suits the touring better.

    One word of warning, a gt3 got written of in london (motorway) this week going 50mph on a link between two roads - tyres and road cold.

    very sad to hear

    enjoy yours in good health

    ted


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    Was the gt3 totaled?


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    Yes


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    you're gonna love it!! I couldn't wait for a Touring build slot, and once it was known that there would be no rear seats and no softer suspension setting, I took the first slot that was available for me. That sucks for the totalled GT3, hope no one was hurt. But that means one less on the road. I feel they've produced so many cars this generation compared to previous ones...


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    steelested:

     

    One word of warning, a gt3 got written of in london (motorway) this week going 50mph on a link between two roads - tyres and road cold.

    ted

    Semi slick tire make absolutely no sense on a car used on public roads. It only has down sides (except bragging, a nice feeling of having the ''most extreme''  and looks) compared to a Michelin Pilot Sport 4S for example.  One will never get to the limit of a 4S on public roads and it will give you so much more grip in cooler temperature, in rain etc... and way enough grip when going more spirited.  You will not slide on a link between two roads ....

    A semi slick needs proper heat to work. Driving 80km/h on a country road is not enough to bring enough heat when the outside temperature is under about 20 degrees. I have slid so many times with my RS when going for short drives in tight corners for '' apparently no reason '' but the fact that they were too cold. 


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    but once they are warm smiley


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    that's why you need to live in Cyprus :)


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    Was in Finland this week; we drove with the 992 GT3 on ice. What a great car, at least on ice, it is much better compared to the 991 GT3 or 991 GT3RS

    Porsche Ice Experience_IFP_W1_09_01_2022_0014_346648.jpeg

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    That looks fun!  Great video clip wink


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    Amazing Pic!!! I've done Camp 4, Camp 4S, and Ice Force, but never with a GT3!! That will be on the cards hopefully for next winter, we should get a rennteam group and go....


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    Wow, looks like fun kiss

    Always fancied doing one of these events.


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    Go for Ice force Pro, we drove this year Cayman GT4, 992 GT3 and the 992 Turbo S. There was also some Taycan Turbo S for some slalom runs.  The Cayman GT4 was a surprise; drove really good this year. Porsche switched to a new tire supplier from Sweden. These tires were much better than the previous used Nokian. Specially on the GT4 this made a big difference. The enclosed picture is of the GT4 after a few hours driving at -30!!!

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    JR-550:

    Go for Ice force Pro, we drove this year Cayman GT4, 992 GT3 and the 992 Turbo S. There was also some Taycan Turbo S for some slalom runs.  The Cayman GT4 was a surprise; drove really good this year. Porsche switched to a new tire supplier from Sweden. 

    Were the tires Gislaved?


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    Cannot remember which brand have only one picture.

    Porsche Ice Experience_IFP_W1_10_01_2022_0119-2_346677.jpeg


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    nice one! definitely will look into that for next year. I remember the first time I went I was in the car in the hangar where it was 12.5 degrees, and the second we drove outside it dropped on the dash from 12.5, to minus 42.5 in a matter of seconds!!!  i have that video somewhere in my archives, and I'll try to find it.... now I grew up in Canada so i've seen my fair share of low temps, but this was epic.

     


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    My son and I did a Camp 4 in Finland some years back. Incredibly cold, but a fantastic experience. We were in regular Carreras at the time. That was hard enough. Cannot imagine driving in a turbo S, or a GT3…


    Re: 992 GT3

    JR-550:

    Go for Ice force Pro, we drove this year Cayman GT4, 992 GT3 and the 992 Turbo S. There was also some Taycan Turbo S for some slalom runs.  The Cayman GT4 was a surprise; drove really good this year. Porsche switched to a new tire supplier from Sweden. These tires were much better than the previous used Nokian. Specially on the GT4 this made a big difference. The enclosed picture is of the GT4 after a few hours driving at -30!!!

     

     

    How long the studs are makes much more difference than the rubber. Those 718s must have had long studs this year then.

    Few years ago when I was there, they only give the Caymans the shortest studs, it was a handful to get the car under control. A challenge that I keep asking to go back to and try and conquer it. the turbo S and the 918 was a cakewalk, Porsche's AWD system is so good, I can keep the turbo S doing the circle run forever, Literally. Stopped only because I got bored or my son getting car sick. Also drove Cup car and GT3RS and those got long studs and they were so much more drivable on ice. The GT3RS course was especially fun, tree lined and also goes up and down hill. 

     


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    JR-550:

    Cannot remember which brand have only one picture.

    Porsche Ice Experience_IFP_W1_10_01_2022_0119-2_346677.jpeg

    Wel,l they're not Hakkas my favourite studded winter tyre, but they look effective.  Blizzaks maybe?


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    5B8B20AB-0FCE-4C02-8099-FF402D598647.jpegMy neighbor in the mountains did not need any studs, just using the proper car ­čśü

     


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    On the GT3 they are Hakka, but they are especially prepared for Porsche by a Swedish Company (Daackproffsen) which install the studs using their special bonding process for durability and wear. The same company suppies all tires for the World Rally Championship.

    On the GT4 this same company supplied their own special tire (to Porsche's thread design). This GT4 mid engine  design included accounting for practical wear and tear on the Ice versus maximizing absolute grip or braking characteristics. If Ice wear were not considered the tracks wouldn't stand up to the abuse. There is always a compromise!

    Of note, the GT4 tires were transformative, the car lost all twitchiness and snappiness...a huge improvement over previous years..but still the GT3 (modified Happas) was "King of the Ice". Probably the advantage of RWD over mid engine. Again of note the advances in the GT3 handling were mind boggling..what a car and what an advancement.

    Then there were the Turbo Ss, not too shabby but if you are a RWD guy the AWD is meh! No matter its virtues. 


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    Gnil:

    40851498-CFCA-4F2C-ACD0-9B7CE27B15F6.jpeg

    My neighbor in the mountains did not need any studs, just using the proper car ­čśü

     

    Smiley That is such a hot car, it melted all the ice around it Smiley


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    Insane! That guy is not giving a sh!t, just drives this wonderful car when he wants to... brilliant!


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