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    A45 AMG?

    Got an amazing offer for a brand-new A45 AMG (previous model with 381 hp, there is a new one available), fully loaded (worth 75k EUR), incl.  AMG Performance Seats, black interior with red stitching, AMG Dynamic Plus package, AMG Sport Exhaust, AMG Driver's Package, COMAND, basically everything.

    36 months lease, 35000 km, 500 EUR per month (incl. 19% VAT). This is a real bargain.

    I need to replace my Mini JCW this October, so this would be a nice successor, especially since I do not really like how the new A class looks but the problem is that my daughter would need to drive this car as well and she is taking her driver's license this year, so she is a beginner. Not sure what to do, my daughter is not a crazy car person like my son, so chances she would drive too fast are small but I also don't want to tempt her and to be responsible for an accident...or worse.

    Not sure what to do...what would you guys do?

    Not even sure my daughter likes the A45, she actually wanted a Mini Countryman or a small SUV.

    The car is all black (incl. Night Package) and you can barely notice it is an A45 AMG.

    Car looks basically like this one (exterior/interior), no rear (roof) wing, pretty stealth.

    mercedes-classe-a-2016-mercedes-benz-a45-amg-wanted-noir_5661475885.jpg
    mercedes-a-45-amg-w176-facelift-28.jpg


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    I would NEVER let a novice driver drive a 381hp car. Really NEVER.

    And a daughter riding A45 AMG right after her driving test is no better than a father riding in a Performante to his business. smiley
    I might be a bit narrow-minded here, but that's the way I see it. And I don't like the A-class. indecision


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    381hp-rocket small car for a new driver smiley ...enlightened

    I can understand a cayenne size with that power because it is a tank...

    500e a month is really cheap though but not very smart if it is not for you.


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    Rossi:

    I would NEVER let a novice driver drive a 381hp car. Really NEVER.

    And a daughter riding A45 AMG right after her driving test is no better than a father riding in a Performante to his business. smiley
    I might be a bit narrow-minded here, but that's the way I see it. And I don't like the A-class. indecision

    Smiley Not a fan of the A class either but the A45 is really a nice car, the son of a friend got his at age 18(!) from his grandfather and we all were like "he must be crazy to give such a car to his nephew" but so far, the car is OK and so is the boy. 

    I agree, giving a 381 hp car into the hands of a beginner driver is a risk, a very high one. I have no clue how my daughter will drive, she is usually a calm (well, sometimes emotional Smiley) person and she isn't too crazy about cars but this doesn't mean she isn't going to use the full power of the car if she gets the chance.

    Difficult situation... The alternative would be to get her some lame ass Mini Countryman or Japanese/Korean Crossover SUV...not sure I like this idea. Smiley

    We'll see, thanks for your input. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    I wouldn't do it Christian, too many things can go wrong for a novice driver, even if she is calm and responsible, she is still a novice driver and has not developed her reflexes yet, a feel for the car's reactions under different circumstances, and feel for anticipating traffic reactions around her, etc and with that power under the hood it just adds more danger to the situation IMO. A Mini or Japanese SUV may be lame but much better IMO.


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    My kids will be getting a Volvo! indecision


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    Thanks for your input, guys. Car would be driven mainly by me but of course my daughter would drive it as well from time to time. Not easy. 

    Another problem I haven't even thought of, even if I trust my daughter with this: My son. If he sees me letting my daughter drive a 381 hp as a beginner, he will surely want the same after he takes his driver's license and I definitely wouldn't want my son to drive such a car as a beginner. Also, this is a smaller car and I am worried my son could take it for a spin when his desire to drive a car (which is extremely high) will grow strong. We always hide the keys and keep them away from him but I don't think he would do that with the E63 or 911. Mini JCW keys are always locked up or with me. A45? More likely. My son is a very good kid, he never did something stupid but he is 14 and you never know... 

    My son's "hunger" for driving car was ignited by a guy in US: We did an off-road tour with him and he let my son drive a car through the desert. Easy for him...he also was the Deputy Sheriff in that region. angry Since that time, my son wants to drive, so we need to be careful. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    Jeep wrangler, cool for girls


    Re: A45 AMG?

    Upsa:

    Jeep wrangler, cool for girls

    Funny, she actually likes the Wrangler but I don't know...

    Proposed a Mazda MX-5 (new one) but she hates it. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    RC:

    Another problem I haven't even thought of, even if I trust my daughter with this: My son. If he sees me letting my daughter drive a 381 hp as a beginner, he will surely want the same after he takes his driver's license and I definitely wouldn't want my son to drive such a car as a beginner. Also, this is a smaller car and I am worried my son could take it for a spin when his desire to drive a car (which is extremely high) will grow strong. We always hide the keys and keep them away from him but I don't think he would do that with the E63 or 911. Mini JCW keys are always locked up or with me. A45? More likely. My son is a very good kid, he never did something stupid but he is 14 and you never know...


    That's an easy one: if your daughter will get a A45 AMG, your son will get the R8. SmileySmiley


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    Rossi:
    RC:

    Another problem I haven't even thought of, even if I trust my daughter with this: My son. If he sees me letting my daughter drive a 381 hp as a beginner, he will surely want the same after he takes his driver's license and I definitely wouldn't want my son to drive such a car as a beginner. Also, this is a smaller car and I am worried my son could take it for a spin when his desire to drive a car (which is extremely high) will grow strong. We always hide the keys and keep them away from him but I don't think he would do that with the E63 or 911. Mini JCW keys are always locked up or with me. A45? More likely. My son is a very good kid, he never did something stupid but he is 14 and you never know...


    That's an easy one: if your daughter will get a A45 AMG, your son will get the R8. SmileySmiley

    Smiley 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    Get a Golf R. smiley

     


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    Whoopsy:

    Get a Golf R. smiley

     

    Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    Whoopsy:

    Get a Golf R. smiley

     

    as a starter, really? you guys are crazy. Smiley

    get her a tank with no power, if she kisses a wall, the pain will be on the wall.Smiley

     


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    the-missile:
    Whoopsy:

    Get a Golf R. smiley

     

    as a starter, really? you guys are crazy. Smiley

    get her a tank with no power, if she kisses a wall, the pain will be on the wall.Smiley

     

    +1


    Re: A45 AMG?

    I have to admit that the A45 attracts me most, I wouldn't really want my daughter to drive this car.

    Had a similar offer for a RS3 sedan (worth around 73k) but it wasn't fully loaded and the car wasn't produced yet.

    At this point, many dealers are trying to get rid of stock cars and cars without particulate filter, so some very nice deals are possible. The cash deal for this car would be 30%/(!) off (again, brand-new), so...

    I am worried that in October, when the Mini JCW goes (and it has to go, buying price would be 20k, I'm not crazy), I won't find a car like the A45 for that kind of little money. 

    Decisions... 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    the-missile:
    Whoopsy:

    Get a Golf R. smiley

    as a starter, really? you guys are crazy. Smiley

    get her a tank with no power, if she kisses a wall, the pain will be on the wall.Smiley

    +1

    Solid, safe and no power sounds like the best choice. A over motorized hot hatch can only end in tears.


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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: A45 AMG?

    The other '' big'' problem I see with this car in the hands of your daughter is the reactions of the others . Probably not good at all and at that age fitting in is important .


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    Buy her a little SUV with ~150 hp, 200 hp tops. More than enough to overtake in a b-road, higher driving position and safer than a hot hatch. 

    RR evoque, Q5, GLC, etc. lot of options in this segment.

    You even can consider buying it cash and make it your "crazy" son's inherited car.


    Re: A45 AMG?

    I had the A45, it is a great car for me but not for my daughter. it is too harsh and noisy, too fast for a novice driver. The new A45 has not yet been released, the new A35 with 300 HP will go first.


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    Gnil:

    The other '' big'' problem I see with this car in the hands of your daughter is the reactions of the others . Probably not good at all and at that age fitting in is important .

    Not a problem since she wouldn't drive the car to university (after she decides what she wants) and here in our neighborhood, the A45 is no problem. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    What about a Rav4?


    Re: A45 AMG?

    Where is Noone1 by the way? Is he pulling an Apias on us?


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    SciFrog:

    Where is Noone1 by the way? Is he pulling an Apias on us?

    exam window time frame for high school. his mom told him to study first prior getting back on family desktop Smiley


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    SciFrog:

    Where is Noone1 by the way? Is he pulling an Apias on us?

    Actually, he was pulled an apias by us (moderators). If you get my drift... Smiley

    It was a moderator team group decision.

    Or...what the-missile said. Smiley


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    AP911:

    What about a Rav4?

    Don't insult me...or my daughter's taste. Smiley Smiley

    A small SUV is certainly a good idea, will look into that (no RAV4 though).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    RC:
    SciFrog:

    Where is Noone1 by the way? Is he pulling an Apias on us?

    Actually, he was pulled an apias by us (moderators). If you get my drift... Smiley

    It was a moderator team group decision.

    I don't know if Noone did something else which I did not see, but if this was based on his posts then that was a disappointing move from the moderators.


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    Re: A45 AMG?

    bluelines:
    RC:
    SciFrog:

    Where is Noone1 by the way? Is he pulling an Apias on us?

    Actually, he was pulled an apias by us (moderators). If you get my drift... Smiley

    It was a moderator team group decision.

    I don't know if Noone did something else which I did not see, but if this was based on his posts then that was a disappointing move from the moderators.

    Not exactly his posts but the tone he used towards certain users, basically provoking and insulting them in the end.

    We received many many complaints about him (much more than about me actually, so this says something Smiley).

    Jokes, irony, sarcasm, whatever, no problem. Personal attacks and being short of insulting some of our most valuable users? I don't think so.

    It was a group decision.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: A45 AMG?

    RC:
    bluelines:
    RC:
    SciFrog:

    Where is Noone1 by the way? Is he pulling an Apias on us?

    Actually, he was pulled an apias by us (moderators). If you get my drift... Smiley

    It was a moderator team group decision.

    I don't know if Noone did something else which I did not see, but if this was based on his posts then that was a disappointing move from the moderators.

    Not exactly his posts but the tone he used towards certain users, basically provoking and insulting them in the end.

    We received many many complaints about him (much more than about me actually, so this says something Smiley).

    Jokes, irony, sarcasm, whatever, no problem. Personal attacks and being short of insulting some of our most valuable users? I don't think so.

    It was a group decision.

    I better shape up. 

    But seriously - he was not that bad. I guess I would not be a good moderator. 


    Re: A45 AMG?

    He received various warnings... Don't worry, you (and actually none of the users I can think of) aren't even close to be banned. Sorry if some of you don't seem to agree with our decision but there was a lot going on and we all decided that it is better to kick him. Smiley

    Btw: apias was not banned, he just decided to stop posting (under his old user name... Smiley).


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