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    Re: New Porsche EV

    To be objective:

    1. Very nice dimensions, finally the compact race car. Getting tired of the f1 and gt’s becoming the buses. Simply compare modern pee nose f1 cars and state of art v10.

    2. Very advanced tech. 900v, natural fibers for aero (modern trend, but currently natural fibers are not used for heavily stressed applications), safety (consider the size of the car)

    so you can see that the engineering team worked hard on it, once again, Porsche confirmed it is on avant garde in engineering. Every competitor is behind

    but… from design language point of view its sh-t, tasteless design (like most of modern supercars, what to do… aim clients from asia and middle east love it, very few cars remain with the clean and pure lines) having nothing in common with the brand history and its design language. You cant even justify it by the aero, its not prototype or single seater.


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Whoopsy:

    So funny this morning when I first saw the pictures.

    From the front, I thought I was looking at an RX-7 with a aftermarket bodykit.

    Side view I see a Koenigsegg. 

    It just looks so un-Porsche like. 

     

    +1.


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    KMM:
    Whoopsy:

    So funny this morning when I first saw the pictures.

    From the front, I thought I was looking at an RX-7 with a aftermarket bodykit.

    Side view I see a Koenigsegg. 

    It just looks so un-Porsche like. 

     

    +1.

    Hm, I understand what you say regarding the resemblance with a Koenigsegg or the RX-7. To me, do I like the car as such.. Meh. The main association that I have with it is the 919 Le Mans car, which in itself doesn't have a lot of typical Porsche looks. Also, I don't care too much for the "hanging curtain"  look. It's hard to explain, but somehow, it looks like the care is floating above the ground, and the space between the car and the ground is filled by a hanging curtain. But there are a lot of really beautifully designed elements that I really like, so in the end I think I kinda like it.


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    I like the Mission R concept.  Lots of exciting styling elements. We'll have to get accustomed to the new Porsche EV face/lights and the essential from now on, Swan Neck wing.

    I think this concept could evolve into the Taycan sportscar to supplement the sedan and the crossover..

    Some people will comment that the new design doesn't look like a Porsche. Probably the same people who were complaining that every new Porsche had to look like a 911.

     


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    It really is not bad looking for a focused Motorsport product. I really like the rear which looks super aggressive. The front is OK, but nothing special. The profile is quite Porsche and I like it.

    My issue is the drive train. I wish Porsche had used this opportunity to showcase a synthetic fuel product. 


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    One day later, I see it as a 718 replacement in the near future...

    Even the fuel consumption in the press release is from the 718... smiley


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Spyderidol:

    It really is not bad looking for a focused Motorsport product. I really like the rear which looks super aggressive. The front is OK, but nothing special. The profile is quite Porsche and I like it.

    My issue is the drive train. I wish Porsche had used this opportunity to showcase a synthetic fuel product. 

    Synthetic fuel is a cool thing, lets look how it will work. Considering that the new oil fields are more and more difficult to develop and extract oil, e fuels could be the alternative. Only 2 disadvantages: much less BTU than petrol (less energy per liter, even less than with ethanol based fuels) and of course, all this ecology talkings are pure BS, because the electrolysis of hydrogen and carbon is a very very and very energy consuming process, that requires lots of energy, so the question, where from you take this energy:-)


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Porsche also has on display a 550 RS Spyder tribute previously referred to as the Porsche Vision Spyder...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

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    BD147804-11C5-4E73-8FE2-F8B2AC22B2E9.jpeg

    ...maybe a few styling clues for a future generation Porsche Boxster Spyder? Smiley

    Link: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020/products/porsche-unseen-design-studies-car-visions-little-rebels-22878.html

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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    The best concept from unseen series


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    This looks less Porsche than the Mission R concept.  


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    That DPI only had a Porsche engine. It was also a private project and not sanctioned by Porsche AG.


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    Yes, i know. But the looks is close)


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    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Porsche also has on display a 550 RS Spyder tribute previously referred to as the Porsche Vision Spyder... 

    NIce!  I guess the original is having its 70th Anniversary Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    And that DPi car is just about the ugliest race car ever existed.

    Did they even look at the shape when designing it mail


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    The shape was pretty much what all DPI's looked like in that era due to the regulations. It was a Riley Chassis/body.

    Engine was Cayenne derived.


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Whoopsy:

    And that DPi car is just about the ugliest race car ever existed.

    Did they even look at the shape when designing it mail

    You are right Whoopsy. The most disastrous design 


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    There were also coyotes and one almost corvette))) 

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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    ...I wonder if the fire suppression system is rated for battery fires??


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    If the battery fires nothing can stop it from burning. In case of mobile phones the special fireproof bags are used. Lithium is too active


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Perhaps the car comes with a bag...?


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    DJM48:

    Perhaps the car comes with a bag...?

    And some rice in case it rains too. 


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    rice after the factory in china or malaysia, or where else porsche is planning the 3rd factory…


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    2025 Porsche 718 Will Be Electric: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a37692178/2025-porsche-718-electric-future-details/


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Interesting, they will allow it to be faster than the 911 since it is different propulsion.  They feel that it will not compete with ICE 911 because people will not mind going slower in an ICE car. 


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Leawood911:

    They feel that it will not compete with ICE 911 because people will not mind going slower in an ICE car. 

    That should be pretty obvious, and they know their customers.


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Carlos from Spain:
    Leawood911:

    They feel that it will not compete with ICE 911 because people will not mind going slower in an ICE car. 

    That should be pretty obvious, and they know their customers.

    It’s just an observation. Fascinated to see how it will turn out. It is easy to project your own perspective onto how others view the same thing - like nberry and his vision of what a gt3 RS is.  I am obviously the same way to an extent but I still consider my Turbo my favorite by far. 
    Porsche will need to find that balance between the two types of propulsion- and do both at the highest levels.  If anyone can do it they can. There will always be pros and cons to each side to we end up the winners by getting better choices and more performance.  


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Norway seems to be driving faster than any country to EV's:  https://electrek.co/2021/09/23/norway-bans-gas-cars-in-2025-but-trends-point-toward-100-ev-sales-as-early-as-april/


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Norway is also a big exporter of electrical power as far as I know so it's easier for them to install chargers and adopt EV faster.


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    An artist's photoshop of a potential future Porsche Cayman influenced by the Mission R concept design...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    2023 Porsche Cayman photoshop.jpg

    Article Link:  https://www.autobild.de/artikel/porsche-cayman-elektro-2024-mission-r-reichweite-erste-technische-daten-20572471.html

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