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    Emissions regulations for cars and vans will remain similar to those currently set for petrol cars

    The European Union is planning to dramatically water down planned emission regulations in a victory for car makers, which had long argued that proposals for the so-called Euro 7 rules were too arduous and costly.

    The long-delayed draft regulation will keep the emissions regulations for cars and vans similar to those currently set for petrol-powered cars, according to a report from Politico.

    The EU will “minimise” the costs to clean up engines, citing “unprecedented pressures” on the automotive supply chain that have pushed up the cost of cars, according to a copy of the draft seen by Politico.

    Car makers had argued vociferously against the new regulations, which would require spending “millions of euros”, according to European automotive lobby group the ACEA.

    “From an industry perspective, we don’t need EU7, as it will be drawing resources we should be spending on electrification,” Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said on the sidelines of the Paris motor show earlier this week. “Euro 7 should be simply cancelled.”

    The draft regulations, which would have been a requirement for cars sold in EU from around 2025/2026, have been delayed multiple times, most recently shifting from 12 October to 28 October. They will now be published on 9 November, according to Politico.

    The ACEA argued that the proposed standards were irrelevant, given the speed of adoption of EVs as manufacturers prepared for the 2035 end date for selling new ICE cars in both the EU and the UK. The greater proportion of EVs on the road would already be cleaning the air, it argued.

    The news won’t be welcomed by catalytic convertor makers, such as Britain’s Johnson Matthey, which had argued that Europe should be advancing on exhaust-emissions regulations, given its global leadership in the area.

    The move has also been criticised by environmental groups, which see it as a capitulation to industry lobbyists.

    “The [European] Commission has caved into their demands. Car makers’ profits are being prioritised over the health of millions of Europeans," Anna Krajinska of pressure group Transport & Environment told Politico.



    Re: EU plans to ditch new Euro 7 as regulations deemed too costly...

    Good riddance, why should the EU strangulate it's economy to lower emissions to such levels when countries like China produce more emissions than the five following countries all put together... it's a drop in the ocean in comparison. And while they are at it maybe now the EU bureaucrats will also undo they blundering mistake to close down nuclear plants in favor of Russian oil/gas dependency which worked out great... I'm sure a good economic incentive in their bank accounts from Russia had something to do with it...

    Re: EU plans to ditch new Euro 7 as regulations deemed too costly...

    Well...only EVs (very likely) from 2030 on, so why would the EU bother to create another regulation nightmare?! 
    I doubt that synthetic fuels will be the future. 
    The current downside of EVs is battery technology and charging times. This will be improved substantially with new technologies arising sooner or later.

    Had a Mini Cooper S EV for two days and the real word range (my driving style) was 150 km. Ridiculous. Good for commuting in the city on a daily basis, otherwise crap. Charging at home (normal wall outlet) was fun.

    Driving was fun as well, recuperation was a little bit aggressive (when I went off the throttle, it felt as if someone is braking) though.

    EVs are the future, like it or not.



    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), BMW Z4 M40i (2022), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: EU plans to ditch new Euro 7 as regulations deemed too costly...

    UK ban of petrol engined cars from 2030 – OEMs react

    Car manufacturers have started to speak up about problems with the UK gov's 2030 petrol car ban

    (16 November 2022)

    The UK government has reaffirmed its commitment to the ban of new petrol and diesel cars in 2030, with a caveat of plug-in hybrid cars with a ‘significant zero emission capability’ able to be sold until 2035. This realigned target date is ten years earlier than was originally revealed in 2018, and comes as part of a wide reaching 10 point plan for a green industrial revolution designed to create 250,000 jobs backed by a £12 billion investment package. 

    This decision pushes forward its plan to reduce the UK’s contribution to climate change following significant global pressure to decarbonise, with this renewed urgency coming on the back of alarming climate change projections. 

    This announcement will coincide with a £4bn investment in the UK’s charging infrastructure and battery production to support the increase in electric vehicle sales, along with more than £500 million made available to incentivise people to switch to electric and hydrogen powered vehicles. 

    A statement released by the Government said “Following extensive consultation with car manufacturers and sellers, the Prime Minister has confirmed that the UK will end the sale of new petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2030, ten years earlier than planned. However we will allow the sale of hybrid cars that can drive a significant distance without emitting carbon until 2035.”

    To support its plans the Prime Minister confirmed a number of measures, including: 

    • £1.3 billion to accelerate the rollout of charge points for electric vehicles in homes, streets and on motorways across England, so people can more easily and conveniently charge their cars.
    • £582 million in grants for those buying zero or ultra-low emission vehicles to make them cheaper to buy and incentivise more people to make the transition.
    • Nearly £500 million to be spent in the next four years for the development and mass-scale production of electric vehicle batteries, as part of our commitment to provide up to £1 billion, boosting international investment into manufacturing bases including in the Midlands and North East.

    What happens to existing ICE cars?

    While the sale of petrol and diesel engined cars will be banned, owners will still be able to use ICE cars, with currently no timeline or strategy in place to remove cars sold before the deadline from UK roads.

    The government’s announcement doesn’t, however, take into consideration the research and development that is currently being undertaken by a number of manufacturers into synthetic fuels, which could provide a lifeline to some ICE vehicles, especially performance cars. 

    The OEMs are also now starting to push back at the holes in the UK and Europe’s policies, not arguing the case for reducing emissions, rather highlighting the fact that most cars on the road in 2030 will still use internal combustion engines.

    Oliver Zipse, chairman of the board of management at BMW, has urged Europe and the United Kingdom not to ‘put a policy in place that ends the combustion engine’. He went on to urge the UK government to review its strategy for the sale of combustion engines from 2030. 

    His reasoning is that electrification is not the solution for all, that hydrogen and e-fuels both need to be considered as alternatives to fossil fuels and that electrification doesn’t provide a solution for the 280 million cars that are currently on the road. ‘If you want to do something for climate change, allow e-fuels. It’s the only strategy to address the existing fleet, which is a much bigger problem than new car sales. Hydrogen is the only possibility [for some] to drive emission-free.’

    What legislation is coming up in the meantime?

    These latest plans by the UK Government are in line with other European countries that have announced plans to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel engined cars, but until then, there are ever stricter emissions regulations being imposed that will have a very limited shelf life considering the investment required by manufacturers to meet them.

    Both Luca de Meo and Carlos Tavares, CEOs of Renault and Stellantis respectively, have called for a rethink on the forthcoming Euro 7 emissions legislation for petrol and diesel vehicles, arguing that the investment required to meet the proposed levels would cost billions and have a marginal impact on reducing greenhouse gases. ‘Why are we diverting scarce resources to regulations that are only going to last a few years?’ asked Tavares.

    Both Renault and Stellantis’s arguments hinge around their pure electric strategies, with these plans held back if there is a requirement to invest (up to 1 billion euros) in what they clearly consider to be old technology. 

    The elephant in the room around reducing the car industry’s greenhouse gas emissions has always been what to do about existing cars and those where an EV simply isn’t a viable option. While some have been prepared to be part of this conversation, only now are those who need to be heard beginning to speak up. 

    And while there is no denying that the reliance on ICE vehicles needs addressing, the blanket ban on ICE car sales isn’t quite the nuanced and considered solution for the wider challenge of decarbonising personal and commercial mobility. 





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