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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    I was at my dealer today according to him the 911-992 will have only a 4-5 year cycle. There will not be a 992-2. After this there will be some type of hybride 911. Could this be correct?

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    JR-550:

    I was at my dealer today according to him the 911-992 will have only a 4-5 year cycle. There will not be a 992-2. After this there will be some type of hybride 911. Could this be correct?

    The 992 has been already designed/built to be hybrid compatible so I would think that their intention was to not need a new generation midway the life cycle if they decided to add hybrid and just use the 992.2... or maybe for marketing reasons they will give it a new generation designation when its just a 992.2 yes


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra1F0TsOCPs3

     

     


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    4trac:

    Just curious RC, what is the usual "go into storage" date for your fun cars?  I know they have mostly been AWD, but never got the impression you were much of a fan of winter sports car driving....

    I drive all my cars all year long, I even have winter tires for my Huracan Performante. Smiley The problem with the Performante is ride height. Not very suitable for deep(er) snow, I am just afraid I could damage something, so I prefer driving it mostly when it is cold outside but without snow on the roads. My Audi R8? I drove it everywhere, was even to Austria (skiing) with it. 

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    JR-550:

    I was at my dealer today according to him the 911-992 will have only a 4-5 year cycle. There will not be a 992-2. After this there will be some type of hybride 911. Could this be correct?

    I'd say not but I wouldn't be surprised with anything happening right now in the car market. Smiley

    As far as I know, the 992.2 will happen and will have a mild hybrid. The 992 drivetrain is already prepared for a hybrid.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    correct - actually there is space made for a mild hybrid already. Think of it like a 700 HP turbo with 1000 nm and further "theoretically" reduced CO2 which is a KPI for every next model...


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    BjoernB:

    correct - actually there is space made for a mild hybrid already. Think of it like a 700 HP turbo with 1000 nm and further "theoretically" reduced CO2 which is a KPI for every next model...

    without forgetting our new lovely penalty in 2021 for non eco friendly cars at 40,000E...bargain! France is officially a 1.5 turbo diesel eco boost friendly car country Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Plus Renault Zoe and Peugeot e-208 cars...


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    The German press is full of new and nice EV models but all I see are Teslas, i3 and i8 and an Audi etron here and there. ­čśŤ


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    what about you? when do you park them?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34359564/2021-porsche-911-turbo-s-testing-zero-to-60/

    992 turbo S is now the 2nd quickly 0-60 car in the world, just behind the 918.


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    Whoopsy:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34359564/2021-porsche-911-turbo-s-testing-zero-to-60/

    992 turbo S is now the 2nd quickly 0-60 car in the world, just behind the 918.

    How come you don’t mention roll-out?  Is it because it is a comparison and they both include roll-out?


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    Whoopsy:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34359564/2021-porsche-911-turbo-s-testing-zero-to-60/

    992 turbo S is now the 2nd quickly 0-60 car in the world, just behind the 918.


    Well, we all know that third placed is the winner of the hearts. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Leawood911:
    Whoopsy:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34359564/2021-porsche-911-turbo-s-testing-zero-to-60/

    992 turbo S is now the 2nd quickly 0-60 car in the world, just behind the 918.

    How come you don’t mention roll-out?  Is it because it is a comparison and they both include roll-out?

     

    Yup, As they test all the cars the same way so their own numbers are comparable to each other. 


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    Rossi:
    Whoopsy:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34359564/2021-porsche-911-turbo-s-testing-zero-to-60/

    992 turbo S is now the 2nd quickly 0-60 car in the world, just behind the 918.


    Well, we all know that third placed is the winner of the hearts. Smiley

    Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Top Gear - Speed Week 2020 - McLaren, Ferrari, Lambo and Porsche vs the clock




    Huracan RWD: 0-60mph 3,36s, 60-130mph 6,65s, 100-0mph 83,9m.

    911 Turbo S: 0-60mph 2,48s, 60-130mph 6,76s, 100-0mph 79,8m.

    F8 Tributo: 0-60mph 2,96s, 60-130mph 5,67s, 100-0mph 82,9m.

    765LT: 0-60mph 2,72s, 60-130mph 5,09s, 100-0mph 73,2m. LT also did 0-100mph in 5,08s and 0-120mph in 6,6s.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    yawn


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Motorsport Magazine France Supertest

    Magny-Cours Club Lap Time:


    McLaren 600LT - 1.17,84
    Porsche 992 Turbo S - 1.18,31 ***NEW***
    Corvette C7 Z06 - 1.18,48
    Porsche 991.2 GT3 - 1.18,85

    Acceleration:-


    0-100: 2,7
    0-120: 3,6
    0-140: 4,5
    0-160: 5,6
    0-180: 6,9
    0-200: 8,4

    0-400m: 10,4 @ 220 km/h

    0-1000m: 18,9 @ 279 km/h

    Weight: 1,655 kg

    Tires: Pirelli P Zero (NA1)

    Pros:

    - Straight Line Performance
    - Easy to Drive
    - Performs well on the Track

    Cons:

    - Tire Wear around the Track
    - Sport Suspension too Stiff
    - Price


    Price as Tested (w/options): 249,827 €


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Imagine on a cup2R


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    It's ironic  that car manufacturers are producing cars with increasingly unbelievable performance while raising prices but less useable in everyday driving. Shame on us for buying into the program. enlightened


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    nberry:

    It's ironic  that car manufacturers are producing cars with increasingly unbelievable performance while raising prices but less useable in everyday driving. Shame on us for buying into the program. enlightened

    Wrote the man who acquired a track-biased 911 GT3 RS exclusively for street use. 


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    CGX car nut:
    nberry:

    It's ironic  that car manufacturers are producing cars with increasingly unbelievable performance while raising prices but less useable in everyday driving. Shame on us for buying into the program. enlightened

    Wrote the man who acquired a track-biased 911 GT3 RS exclusively for street use. 

    Touche!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    60-130 mph performance is weird...are you sure the 911 Turbo S is slower than the Huracan RWD? Kind of unlikely. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukXaPoiq5LY&feature=youtu.be

    Another 10.2 quarter mile.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Caymanisking:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukXaPoiq5LY&feature=youtu.be

    Another 10.2 quarter mile.

    Factory car? Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Yes,  out of the factory in Germany like all the other ones you see on the road. indecision

    There are so many examples running low 10’s now - it requires a big conspiricy theory to believe all of them have been specially prepared. If you believe that you might be open to theories around 5G, Bill Gates, lab viruses, Elvis still being alive etc. indecision

     


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    Caymanisking:

    Yes,  out of the factory in Germany like all the other ones you see on the road. indecision

    There are so many examples running low 10’s now - it requires a big conspiricy theory to believe all of them have been specially prepared. If you believe that you might be open to theories around 5G, Bill Gates, lab viruses, Elvis still being alive etc. indecision

     

    I do not believe in conspiracy theories, we just ran two 992 Turbo S vs various cars here and I doubt that my Performante does the 1/4 mile in 10.2 seconds. Best I ever achieved (haven't tried often though) was 10.46 but it was alone, though with an almost full tank. The 992 Turbo S does quite well from a stop (launch control) but afterwards... I think 10.4 or 10.5 are easily possible but 10.2 is a different class already.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    It is normal for any car that you get production variance. You will get slower examples that can only do 10.4 or even 10.5 but then you get faster examples that can do 10.1 or 10.2. There has been cabrio versions that ran 10.2 and 10.3. Just because a specific example can only do 10.4 does not mean there are no faster examples out of the same factory or if there are that they are modified. You have a sample size of two there - completely insufficient to conclude that based on their performance it is the best that is possible out there.


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    Caymanisking:

    It is normal for any car that you get production variance. You will get slower examples that can only do 10.4 or even 10.5 but then you get faster examples that can do 10.1 or 10.2. There has been cabrio versions that ran 10.2 and 10.3. Just because a specific example can only do 10.4 does not mean there are no faster examples out of the same factory or if there are that they are modified. You have a sample size of two there - completely insufficient to conclude that based on their performance it is the best that is possible out there.

    We always drive in a group and many of us (not me...unfortunately Smiley) have different cars and/or bring new cars to the drives. So we can see very early how good the performance of a new car is and when manufacturers are not being honest. I am still very impressed with the 720S performance but I expected more from the 992 Turbo S. Don't get me wrong, it is a very fast car, especially from a stop but I expected more above 200 kph from a 650 hp Biturbo car.

    Biggest disappointment lately was a new RS6. A guy had a M5 Performance (latest model) dealer car with him and basically obliterated the RS6. I think Audi should have added some horses to the car but anyway... The 488 was also quite slow in the beginning but one of the group received a car last year and this one goes much better, not sure if Ferrari changed something or they just improved the engines.


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