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Feb 25, 2016 1:38:00 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 58735, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

apias:

“Interviews with EV enthusiasts indicated their desire for one pedal driving capability on the Bolt EV. One pedal operation boosts the thrill and uniqueness of EV driving,” Tavel said.

Well...there is nothing to laugh about, on the contrary:

In stop-and-go traffic, you don’t even need to use the brake. Shift into low and it’s capable of one-pedal driving. Lift your foot off the accelerator and it stops. Touch the pedal again and you’re off.

One pedal driving. Ok? Smiley

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Feb 25, 2016 1:53:33 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: Banned By Tesla

RC:
apias:

“Interviews with EV enthusiasts indicated their desire for one pedal driving capability on the Bolt EV. One pedal operation boosts the thrill and uniqueness of EV driving,” Tavel said.

Well...there is nothing to laugh about, on the contrary:

In stop-and-go traffic, you don’t even need to use the brake. Shift into low and it’s capable of one-pedal driving. Lift your foot off the accelerator and it stops. Touch the pedal again and you’re off.

One pedal driving. Ok?

Personally, I'd still want a second pedal for the brakes, as I'd want a car to stop much faster if it were a question of avoiding a collision than if I just wanted to stop for a red light. Smiley

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Feb 25, 2016 1:57:59 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 58735, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: fritz

Re: Banned By Tesla

I think this "feature" is intended for the typical US customer who is interested in this type of car. I bet there are nice cupholders available as well... indecision

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Feb 25, 2016 4:07:35 PM

Gladstone: Expert; Loc: Kansas City, MO , United States; Posts: 1801, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 27, 2008; Reply to: RC

Re: Banned By Tesla

Capable of one pedal driving. Not missing a brake pedal.

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Feb 25, 2016 4:32:20 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: RC

Re: Banned By Tesla

RC:
apias:

“Interviews with EV enthusiasts indicated their desire for one pedal driving capability on the Bolt EV. One pedal operation boosts the thrill and uniqueness of EV driving,” Tavel said.

Well...there is nothing to laugh about, on the contrary:

In stop-and-go traffic, you don’t even need to use the brake. Shift into low and it’s capable of one-pedal driving. Lift your foot off the accelerator and it stops. Touch the pedal again and you’re off.

One pedal driving. Ok?

Sorry, but I'm still missing the "thrill" in that.

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Feb 25, 2016 5:00:15 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 58735, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

Well, I guess Prius drivers have a different kind of thrill than us sportscars drivers. indecision

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Feb 25, 2016 5:05:18 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: RC

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In my commute sometimes I can drive 40 miles without even touching ANY pedal...

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Feb 25, 2016 5:29:59 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: RC

Re: Banned By Tesla

RC:
Well, I guess Prius drivers have a different kind of thrill than us sportscars drivers.

Right, I guess I can imagine chills up my spine as the car eases itself to a stop in traffic -- yeah baby!

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Feb 25, 2016 5:44:49 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: apias

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On the Macan self braking is not bad. Tried on an brand new Escalade and I was terrified so turned it off.

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Feb 27, 2016 8:13:22 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3894, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

apias:
RC:
apias:

“Interviews with EV enthusiasts indicated their desire for one pedal driving capability on the Bolt EV. One pedal operation boosts the thrill and uniqueness of EV driving,” Tavel said.

Well...there is nothing to laugh about, on the contrary:

In stop-and-go traffic, you don’t even need to use the brake. Shift into low and it’s capable of one-pedal driving. Lift your foot off the accelerator and it stops. Touch the pedal again and you’re off.

One pedal driving. Ok?

Sorry, but I'm still missing the "thrill" in that.

I quite like half a G of regenerative braking. Can you do under 1 minute 40 seconds at Mid-Ohio?

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Feb 27, 2016 8:35:54 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: W8MM

Re: Banned By Tesla

I'm not saying saying regenerative braking is bad, I'm just mocking the "thrill" of one pedal driving in stop and go traffic.

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Feb 27, 2016 10:08:15 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3894, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

apias:
I'm not saying saying regenerative braking is bad, I'm just mocking the "thrill" of one pedal driving in stop and go traffic.

Why?

Ever try it?

I like it!

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Feb 27, 2016 10:09:57 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: W8MM

Re: Banned By Tesla

Do you find it "thrilling" when your car brings itself to a stop from 5mph?

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Feb 28, 2016 2:46:54 AM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: apias

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The one pedal thing is a bit weird to get used to, but I really like it, fitting for any EV by nature. It's comfortable in city driving too.

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Feb 28, 2016 4:04:44 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3894, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

apias:
Do you find it "thrilling" when your car brings itself to a stop from 5mph?

Who goes that slowly?

I'm talking about lifting before a turn-in point at much higher speeds.

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Mar 30, 2016 1:47:33 AM

Gladstone: Expert; Loc: Kansas City, MO , United States; Posts: 1801, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 27, 2008; Reply to: W8MM

Re: Banned By Tesla

Anyone else excited about the model 3 announcement? It may not be a performance car, but it might be a big part of the future of the automobile. Either way, I can hardly wait to see it.

I think Tesla also has a big hedge against being overrun by the big car companies due to their arrangements for a supply of batteries.

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Mar 30, 2016 1:56:18 AM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: Gladstone

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Oh yes, it's long overdue!!!!! I can't wait. People are sleeping in front of dealers already in order to put their deposits down. I think this car is 2 years too late, so it better be amazing and keep all competitions at bay for a couple of years such that Tesla can sell 100,000s of them. If this thing isn't truly amazing, Telsa may be more or less dead in the water.

I'm hoping for a small sexy sedan with amazing lines. It is said to be benchmark streamlined..

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Mar 30, 2016 1:57:09 AM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: Atzporsche

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Jun 10, 2016 3:11:22 AM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: Atzporsche

Re: Banned By Tesla

So, apparently, the Model S has been suffering suspension failures and Tesla has been forcing the owners to sign NDAs, which may actually forbid them to report the problem to the NHTSA, in order to get it fixed.

Tesla Motors, the maverick electric-car maker, is under scrutiny from federal regulators over suspension failures attributed to its biggest-selling model — along with reports that it had asked owners not to disclose the problem.

The nation’s top auto safety regulator, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said on Thursday that at least some Tesla customers who experienced suspension failures with Model S luxury cars were asked to sign confidentiality agreements about the issue.

“The agency immediately informed Tesla that any language implying that consumers should not contact the agency regarding safety concerns is unacceptable, and N.H.T.S.A. expects Tesla to eliminate any such language,” said Bryan Thomas, an agency spokesman. “Tesla representatives told N.H.T.S.A. that it was not their intention to dissuade consumers from contacting the agency.”

The regulator added that the agreements that Tesla required were “troublesome.”

Tesla did not respond to requests for comment.
-- http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/business/tesla-model-s-nhtsa-suspension-failure.html

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Jun 10, 2016 3:39:22 AM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4476, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

See my Model X posting on this subject as the article provides more details. The Flkr account is worth a visit too.

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Jun 10, 2016 9:33:36 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 58735, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: apias

Re: Banned By Tesla

apias:
So, apparently, the Model S has been suffering suspension failures and Tesla has been forcing the owners to sign NDAs, which may actually forbid them to report the problem to the NHTSA, in order to get it fixed.

If true, this could break Tesla's neck. Smiley

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Jun 10, 2016 1:45:20 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4476, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: RC

Re: Banned By Tesla

RC:
apias:
So, apparently, the Model S has been suffering suspension failures and Tesla has been forcing the owners to sign NDAs, which may actually forbid them to report the problem to the NHTSA, in order to get it fixed.

If true, this could break Tesla's neck.

If true, this could explain the fabricated hype for the Model 3, a car that has yet to finish the basic design phase. Tesla needed a very positive story about its future to obfuscate the suspension failures and alleged coverup.

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Jun 11, 2016 9:23:23 PM

4trac: Expert; Loc: SK , Canada; Posts: 1920, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 6, 2006; Reply to: CGX car nut

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Seems to have been true for the small number of owners to whom Tesla covered some extra repair costs beyond warranty. And, today they have kissed and made up with NHTSA- likely by revising their NDA to explicitly state that the non-disclosure is not intended to prevent notifying the regulator. Some lawyers interviewed stated these NDAs are non-enforceable in any event. But IMO all these paranoid tendencies in legal form reflect directly on Musk's personality traits - he is equally likely to sink the company as make it great, a human roll of dice.

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Jun 11, 2016 9:36:04 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: 4trac

Re: Banned By Tesla

Apparently 37 of the 40 reports of suspension failure are suspect and could be fake...

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Jun 12, 2016 1:21:29 AM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3894, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: Banned By Tesla

SciFrog:
Apparently 37 of the 40 reports of suspension failure are suspect and could be fake...

Reminds me of the "Audi Victims Network" from decades gone by. All fake or grossly mistaken claims of "unintended acceleration". NHSTA finally ruled that they were all "pedal miss-application" events. Damn plaintiffs bar at work.

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Jun 12, 2016 11:35:50 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: W8MM

Re: Banned By Tesla

As suspected, more pathetic attempts to kill Tesla.

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