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    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Same road a bit quicker results in 3l/100km more

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    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    161km/h average smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    the-missile:

    161km/h average smiley

    ...over 737 km !!!! Smiley


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    that is some serious avg speed - esp since you had to refuel the car at least 2x smiley


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    schmoell:

    that is some serious avg speed - esp since you had to refuel the car at least 2x smiley

    That's what kills it indeed, the same distance with our D3 leaves you with this:

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    That's the quickest I managed to make it to München without taking a flight. Smiley


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    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    angel


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Fun upgrade to the C63, fitted an OS-Giken LSD. Much more grip, and when it lets go it slides so controllably, a real joy.  

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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Geez, someone parked on the wrong place... indecision

    Funny enough I never realized the C63 didn’t come with a LSD from the factory, that had been my assumption so far. Great modification and I believe it fits the character of the car perfectly. What made you go for OS Giken instead of Drexler for example?


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    Ferdie:

    Geez, someone parked on the wrong place... indecision

    Funny enough I never realized the C63 didn’t come with a LSD from the factory, that had been my assumption so far. Great modification and I believe it fits the character of the car perfectly. What made you go for OS Giken instead of Drexler for example?

    They do, but as an option. Mine wasn't specced with one from the factory, and even if it was the factory ones are quite mild. Indeed this car without an LSD is just ridiculous in my book.

    I have a Drexler on the D3 Alpina, and very happy with that one indeed. The OS Giken was recommended by a friend who had it fitted to his M140i and they manufacture one specifically for the C63 so thought to give them a try. Looks really nicely made too.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


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    Put the C63 on the rolling road to see what it still had in it after 100k km. 481hp vs. 487hp claimed, not bad. They reshuffled a little to liberate a bit more, now 511hp and 650Nm.

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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    very nice !!


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    Nice. What an glorious Engine.


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    hunterone:

    Nice. What an glorious Engine.

    It has a lot more to give as the Performance Pack has the SLS internals but intake and exhaust would need to be opened up for that. Will keep it subtle for now.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


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    Amazing engine. But the matter, in fact, it has not the SLS parts, it is the other way round - The SLS M159 engine uses a lot of the M156 engine of your car. 

    The M159 has lots of aluminum instead of steel parts Shafts, crankcase, etc. The Intake System is made of Magnesium. But the biggest difference of SLS engine is its dry sump lubrication. BTW - the SLS/GT/Black-Series engines are mostly the same, but the ECU is different. Many of the SLS owners I know have the GT upgrade, some even the Black-Series (as I do). 

    The most amazing fact of this engine - every Mercedes Benz line-production engine is built to last at least 300.000km. And this is also true for all AMG engines (except the Project One or race series engines).

    I think the Mercedes/AMG big block 8 Cylinders are the most amazing sounding engines out there. The new 4.0 Liter Bi-Turbos might be comparable powerful, but nothing beats the muscle car feel of these engines!

     


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    That is why a had a SLS convertible in my list of 7 cars indecision


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    Yep, I kind of miss my C63 S PP Coupe...that n/a V8 engine sounded amazing.

    However, you should hear my wife's new C63 S AMG Cabriolet Facelift: I am amazed how good it sounds, the deeper sound (very likely because of that particulate filter) gave the car a more distinct V8 muscle car sound and it is really loud, especially if you stand next to the car. My wife switched the sport exhaust on by accident yesterday when she left home and half the neighborhood was at the windows, looking angry, you get the point. I was like "wow" is this thing loud and the car has 1500 km only. Same goes to the E63, this thing is insanely loud on the outside (for a turbo charged engine), didn't expect that. 

    AMG is really a great brand, they know what the customers want. I just wish they wouldn't have done that stupid looking "fake" exhaust pipes look/design, it looks horrible, on both the C63 and the E63. Much nicer on Porker's car.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Agree the recent trend of fake exhausts is horrible, I can only imagine they do it to cut production costs? Their oval quad-exhaust design was perfect the way it was.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Porker:

    Agree the recent trend of fake exhausts is horrible, I can only imagine they do it to cut production costs? Their oval quad-exhaust design was perfect the way it was.

    Smiley You cannot even imagine how bad the new fake exhaust look is live, I have to endure it every single day. Smiley

    Highly embarrassing for a company like AMG because the sound of the Biturbos is still amazing (for a turbo charged engine).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


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    Fully agree on the general fake exhaust tips . They all do it . Makes no sense and is not even esthetic. Even Porsche on the 992 made it wrong , you can see the real exhaust behind the tips surprise


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Porker:

    Agree the recent trend of fake exhausts is horrible, I can only imagine they do it to cut production costs? Their oval quad-exhaust design was perfect the way it was.

    Fully agree - had the fake tips on my C63s also and hated it. Merc and others claim that exhaust like yours tend to bend&move because of the heat and then are no longer properly aligned with the rest of the car. I never had a problem in any of my cars and tend to think that some designers had to many espressos. 


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    I heard the reason is that any impact on the rear of the car, even a relatively moderate one, can damage the mufflers, manifold and even turbos it the tips that are sticking out of the bumper are physically connected to the exhaust system, because the tips would bear part of the impact are as the bumper will not protect them, and because they are physically connected would transmit the forces up the exhaust system chain. But if the tips are rather embedded in the bumper itself and not physically connected to the muffler exhaust tips then there is less change of this damage and expensive repair costs since the bumper stands in the way before the real exhaust tips are hit.


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    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    That makes sense. However in that case you (or some insurance) would have to pay for the damage whereas the bending due to heat problems is likely a warranty thing. This is what I've been told. Don't know if it is correct; maybe a mix of both 


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    They gave the car some decent stoppers while it was in as well. All fit for the next 100k. 

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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport

     


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    Carlos from Spain:

    I heard the reason is that any impact on the rear of the car, even a relatively moderate one, can damage the mufflers, manifold and even turbos it the tips that are sticking out of the bumper are physically connected to the exhaust system, because the tips would bear part of the impact are as the bumper will not protect them, and because they are physically connected would transmit the forces up the exhaust system chain. But if the tips are rather embedded in the bumper itself and not physically connected to the muffler exhaust tips then there is less change of this damage and expensive repair costs since the bumper stands in the way before the real exhaust tips are hit.


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS

    Heard the same but still...I don't really care (maybe the insurance).

    It looks awful, so fake. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Lars997:

     

    I think the Mercedes/AMG big block 8 Cylinders are the most amazing sounding engines out there.

     

    not just the sound….also the way this engine delivers its power....one of the all-time greats


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    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Interesting reason, makes sense although fake is pretty bad...


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    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Carlos from Spain:

    I heard the reason is that any impact on the rear of the car, even a relatively moderate one, can damage the mufflers, manifold and even turbos it the tips that are sticking out of the bumper are physically connected to the exhaust system, because the tips would bear part of the impact are as the bumper will not protect them, and because they are physically connected would transmit the forces up the exhaust system chain. But if the tips are rather embedded in the bumper itself and not physically connected to the muffler exhaust tips then there is less change of this damage and expensive repair costs since the bumper stands in the way before the real exhaust tips are hit.--

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS

    This actually happened to me many years ago, I got rear ended but there was little apparent damage. A few weeks later I am driving through Germany on the Autobahn and the exhaust starts getting really noisy I make it to the Munich Porsche centre who kindly take a look for me and it turns out the rear muffler had a large crack in it which was caused by the rear impact on the tip, it needed a new muffler which they managed to supply and fit that afternoon.


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    997 GT2 2014 3.9 Mezger, 800PS @ 1.2 bar

    2018 McLaren 720S 

    993 Turbo, 2006 built 3.8, 577PS/797NM, 1440kg DIN sold to a worthy enthusiast.


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Since I can't really think of a better daily driver for my current needs, I plan to keep my C63 for a while so I treated it to some decent maintenance. Four new discs, new filters all-round, new rubbers where needed (suspension and diff), and since the foglights always broke from stone chips on the autobahn, I had them replaced with brake ducts, ends up looking better too. On to the next 120k km! kiss

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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport

     


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Goddamn horizontal photos sad


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Bought a muscle car...

    Porker:

    Goddamn horizontal photos sad

    You were saying? 😉


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


     
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