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    GTS - any photos of a black car ?

     Thanks. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Oh, oh... I'm afraid were this is going  

    you like black cars, your are trying to resist temptation of the GTS until the 991 is out but... 1+1 = ? 


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    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Haha, I figured the same Carlos!


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    Porsche, seperates LeMans from LeBoys

    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Probably next week on www.porsche.com


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Guys, I'm just curious about how it looks because I never saw a black one. All dealers seem to have white cars. Bummer.  


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Come to think about it, I've never seen one black either. I wonder how it looks too since the GTS comes with black wheels  


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    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    RC:

    Guys, I'm just curious about how it looks because I never saw a black one. All dealers seem to have white cars. Bummer.  


    Doesn't matter what you say, we don't believe you anyway. Smiley

    BTW, there's a very nice brown metallic GTS cab in the new Christophorus magazine. Looks absolutely gorgeous. Smiley
     


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    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Rossi:
    RC:

    Guys, I'm just curious about how it looks because I never saw a black one. All dealers seem to have white cars. Bummer.  


    Doesn't matter what you say, we don't believe you anyway. Smiley

    BTW, there's a very nice brown metallic GTS cab in the new Christophorus magazine. Looks absolutely gorgeous. Smiley
     

     Thanks Rossi Smiley

    Here is the link to the article:

    http://files.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/default.pdf?pool=uk&type=download&id=christophorus-decemberjanuary2011-palm&...


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    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Christian - here are a few in black... just to whet your appetite...

    1296668301298Black 1.jpg

    Black 2.jpg

    Black 3.jpeg

    Black 4.jpeg

    Black 5.jpeg

    Black 6.jpg

    Black 7.jpg

    BTW - centre locking RS Spyder wheels look better IMHO..


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


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    Amazing GTS pics, it looks stuning in black Smiley

    RC wont go for the GTS,  I´m quite sure first 991 Cab unit to reach his Dealer will have his name all over it Smiley Smiley

    J.Seven


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    John H:

     








    BTW - centre locking RS Spyder wheels look better IMHO..


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."

    I can't decide which ones I like best for the GTS, I prefer the design of the RS Spyder wheels, but I do think they really need a spacer to fit the wide body. I get the feeling the track is a little too narrow with the RS Spyders. Does a spacer exist for centrelocks?


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Carlos from Spain:
    Rossi:
    RC:

    Guys, I'm just curious about how it looks because I never saw a black one. All dealers seem to have white cars. Bummer.  


    Doesn't matter what you say, we don't believe you anyway. Smiley

    BTW, there's a very nice brown metallic GTS cab in the new Christophorus magazine. Looks absolutely gorgeous. Smiley
     

     Thanks Rossi Smiley

    Here is the link to the article:

    http://files.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/default.pdf?pool=uk&type=download&id=christophorus-decemberjanuary2011-palm&...

    Stunning indeed! Is the color Macadamia Metallic? Smiley


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    I think the color is meteor grey. The color looks brown because of the early/late sun, everythings is more red because of the light


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    I can't decide which ones I like best for the GTS, I prefer the design of the RS Spyder wheels, but I do think they really need a spacer to fit the wide body. I get the feeling the track is a little too narrow with the RS Spyders. Does a spacer exist for centrelocks?

     

    No, Porsche does not approve wheel spacers for the RS Spyder wheels with center lock.

    More "disadvantages" of the RS Sypder wheels: You need a second winter tire wheel set if you live in regions with snow and this set costs around 6100 EUR incl. tax.

    In case of a tire puncture, you need an official Porsche dealer to fix it because putting the wheel back on requires special equipment which uses exactly 500 Nm of torque, cost is around 750 EUR and it is pretty big.

    On the other hand, the RS Sypder wheels look absolutely stunning.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    My comment in the pictures I posted above was referring to 'appearance' and we have no need for winter tyres in the UK.

    What does concern me is your reference to €750 being the cost for putting a wheel back on...

    What does this cover?  I mean.. just the labour for one wheel, labour for one wheel including the cost of a tyre, labour for 4 wheels? 

    Please could you enlarge...thank you.

     

     


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    I believe he is referring to the cost of the tool that is needed for securing the centre lock nut.

    If is the same as on the GT3, you'll need a torque wrench which is capable of torques up to 550Nm. These tools are quite long and quite expensive. Additionally, the wheel must be in the air when secured so you need a second person who sits on the brakes (at least for the front wheels). It is a major PITA, especially if you want to remove them for cleaning.

    On top of that, Porsche issued an service bulletin for the GT3s which states that you have to "grease" the nut with Optimoly or a similar product and increase the torque before track usage (and decrease afterwards again)... 

    Overall, while the centre lock wheels look terrific, that does not compensate enough for the disadvantages that come with them (for people that go to the track or want to remove their wheels themselfes for cleaning, etc...)


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    Matt C
    2009 997 GT3 Mk2  / 1988 911 3.2 Conv.


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Matt C:

    I believe he is referring to the cost of the tool that is needed for securing the centre lock nut.

    If is the same as on the GT3, you'll need a torque wrench which is capable of torques up to 550Nm. These tools are quite long and quite expensive. Additionally, the wheel must be in the air when secured so you need a second person who sits on the brakes (at least for the front wheels). It is a major PITA, especially if you want to remove them for cleaning.

    On top of that, Porsche issued an service bulletin for the GT3s which states that you have to "grease" the nut with Optimoly or a similar product and increase the torque before track usage (and decrease afterwards again)... 

    Overall, while the centre lock wheels look terrific, that does not compensate enough for the disadvantages that come with them (for people that go to the track or want to remove their wheels themselfes for cleaning, etc...)

     

    Very well said. Thank you. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    It's funny - the centre lock design was supposed to make the GT3 more like wheels used in motorsport - but given the disadvantages and hassle involved, it appears to have created the opposite result


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    RT Moderator - 997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm sports suspension/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Matt C:

    I believe he is referring to the cost of the tool that is needed for securing the centre lock nut.

    If is the same as on the GT3, you'll need a torque wrench which is capable of torques up to 550Nm. These tools are quite long and quite expensive. Additionally, the wheel must be in the air when secured so you need a second person who sits on the brakes (at least for the front wheels). It is a major PITA, especially if you want to remove them for cleaning.

    On top of that, Porsche issued an service bulletin for the GT3s which states that you have to "grease" the nut with Optimoly or a similar product and increase the torque before track usage (and decrease afterwards again)... 

    Overall, while the centre lock wheels look terrific, that does not compensate enough for the disadvantages that come with them (for people that go to the track or want to remove their wheels themselfes for cleaning, etc...)

    Thanks Matt for clearing that up...phew! I beginning to worry!

    The old problem - lost in translation..

     

     


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Hi RC.  I saw a black/lblack GTS cab recently at a Florida dealer.  It had ceramics, lots of other options, and cost well over $140K,  I honestly did not like the color combo--white would be much better--and for that price I would much prefer a Panamera Turbo.   To me the GTS emphasizes sport, and a white coupe fits that image far better.


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    sorry Wonderbar, I just cant agree. color is so subjective.


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Agree to disagree, and really we are agreeing to the absence of color...


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Thanks  John...I hope you enjoyed  few days drive with your GTS.


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    2006 997 C2S Cab, Triple Black,  2006 Cayenne Titanium Iceland Silver Metalic New York


    Re: GTS - any photos of a black car ?

    Wonderbar:

    Agree to disagree, and really we are agreeing to the absence of color...


    Indeed!Smiley

    Smiley


     
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