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    Re: Today I learned why we pay so much for our Turbos

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    nberry said:
    Driving a high performance sport car in the snow makes as much sense as mixing water with German beer.



    Living in San Diego I take it that you're not too familiar with that kind of fun - you don't know what your missing



    ... but somehow Nick is right about the comparison with the water and the German beer.



    Let's say the comparison is 50% right
    Nick is right that both exercises (driving Porsche on snow and mixing water with German beer) do not make any sense, but (as opposed to drinking watered beer- where's the vomiting smiley ) driving a Porsche on snow is big fun



    I must insist that it has to be "mixing German beer with water" and not the other way round!



    And here it is BTW...

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    Rossi said:
    I must insist that it has to be "mixing German beer with water" and not the other way round!



    And here it is BTW...



    I must have been confused by the mere thought of mixing water with German beer (ehem...the other way round)
    But in the US some breweries offer ready made convenience drinks (at least the stuff tastes like ready made beer/water mix) - so Nick doesn't need to take care of the correct mixing procedure

    Re: Today I learned why we pay so much for our Turbos

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    nberry said:
    Christian you are now really streching to justify the 997TT. Driving a high performance sport car in the snow makes as much sense as mixing water with German beer.



    Nick, it makes as much sense as you using an all-wheel drive SUV ( Cayenne S ) in arid, flat, paved San Diego . (Need it in case of a Pacific Ocean tsunami ?)



    Owned.

    Seriously, with two AWD cars in the household (Audi allroad and 997TT), both with winter tires, I find myself taking the 997TT out most of the times in the snow and rain.

    It's really a lot of fun.

    For me, life is too short to drive nice cars only to show off.

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    W211 said:
    It's really a lot of fun.

    For me, life is too short to drive nice cars only to show off.



    Ding! Ding ! We have a Winner !!

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    Nick you are incorrigible...Is there a doctor in the house, Nick needs help.



    We tried to help him long ago . We just keep him around now as the harmless village goofball.

    Re: Today I learned why we pay so much for our Turbos

    nice ...funny how love has a way of growing on you the more you learn and experience...the gallardo had a dead battery

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    More snow pictures.

    Btw: these aren't pictures found somewhere on the internet without knowing the "background story". These are REAL pictures done by myself in my car.

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    Driving up the hill...no problemo.

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    nberry said:
    Christian you are now really streching to justify the 997TT. Driving a high performance sport car in the snow makes as much sense as mixing water with German beer.



    Nick, if you would have snow or rainy roads 8 months a year or more, at least, you wouldn't say that.
    The bavarian winter usually lasts from late November til early April, this year we were lucky and no snow until two days ago, following most powerful hurricane in german history (thank god, nothing serious happened).

    I remember why I sold my 996 Turbo: this car was very low and I had no winter tires (too expensive). It sat almost three months in the garage without being used, this was one of the reasons I sold it (regrets came shortly after... ).

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    JimFlat6 said:
    So the Turbo IS the real Snow Porsche!

    For the sake of Lamborghinis honor I found this.





    That's Roy's car

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    nberry said:
    Christian you are now really streching to justify the 997TT. Driving a high performance sport car in the snow makes as much sense as mixing water with German beer.



    Nick, it makes as much sense as you using an all-wheel drive SUV ( Cayenne S ) in arid, flat, paved San Diego . (Need it in case of a Pacific Ocean tsunami ?)



    Owned.

    Seriously, with two AWD cars in the household (Audi allroad and 997TT), both with winter tires, I find myself taking the 997TT out most of the times in the snow and rain.

    It's really a lot of fun.

    For me, life is too short to drive nice cars only to show off.



    San Diego flat? Think again. We are surrounded by mountains. BTW hopefully you do not shorten your life trying to show off with regarding what your nice car can do.

    I love to hang around Porsche guy's because I feel obliged to try and rehabilitate them. It is a work in progress and I must tell you it is taxing my patience. But because I have always believed that pain is temporary and quitting is forever, I NEVER GIVE UP!

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    nberry said:
    Christian you are now really streching to justify the 997TT. Driving a high performance sport car in the snow makes as much sense as mixing water with German beer.



    You are just supremely jealous that we Turbo owners can enjoy our cars year round no matter the weather, let's see you try that in your Ferrari......

    Better yet, let's go for a ski trip in Aspen, we take our Turbos and you take your Ferrari......plus AAA's tow truck service number.

    Not everyone lives in places with moderate climate, your flashy Ferrari might suits you perfectly where you lived, but for people with snow/rain to content with, the Turbo makes MUCH more sense. I was considering the F430, Gallardo and the Turbo, first car I scratched was the F430, it does not have awd and that's the deal breaker period. When ! paid that much for a car why shouldn't I be able to drive it whenever I WANT to, regardless of weather.

    Ferrari may rank first on your list but it's not on my list.

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    San Diego flat? Think again. We are surrounded by mountains. BTW hopefully you do not shorten your life trying to show off with regarding what your nice car can do.





    Nick , I've spent a lot of time around San Diego.If those itty bitty mesas that segregate the entire region into countless numbers of developed ravines is what you call mountains ...

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    nberry said:
    San Diego flat? Think again. We are surrounded by mountains. BTW hopefully you do not shorten your life trying to show off with regarding what your nice car can do.





    Nick , I've spent a lot of time around San Diego.If those itty bitty mesas that segregate the entire region into countless numbers of developed ravines is what you call mountains ...



    I am gonna agree with nick on this one, within san diego county you have palomar mountain at 6126 feet (great steep twisties), hot springs mountain at 6400 feet, laguna mountains at 6500 feet and cuyamaca mountains at 6515 feet, not to mention about an hour north you have big bear mountain at 8800 feet. These are hardly itty bitty mesas

    show off?

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    nberry said:
    BTW hopefully you do not shorten your life trying to show off with regarding what your nice car can do.



    Thanks for the kind wishes nberry. I wouldn't consider enjoying the Porsche 997 turbo with winter tires in the snow exactly showing off. If you have tried it you would realize it's really not a big deal.

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    nberry said:
    Christian you are now really streching to justify the 997TT. Driving a high performance sport car in the snow makes as much sense as mixing water with German beer.



    If you live in cold country, you will see it is not a stretch and appreciate the option to drive a Porsche in winter. I used to always think Porsche should be driven in the summer. So with a decent car kept for winter driving, I bought a 968. Now come to think about it, if I put the money set aside for a decent winter car (30K Cdn) on top of my 968, I can afford a 996 MK2. If a 911 is undrivable on snow, I probabily will never manage to have one.

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    I am gonna agree with nick on this one, within san diego county you have palomar mountain at 6126 feet (great steep twisties), hot springs mountain at 6400 feet, laguna mountains at 6500 feet and cuyamaca mountains at 6515 feet, not to mention about an hour north you have big bear mountain at 8800 feet. These are hardly itty bitty mesas



    I grew uo a couple hours from Mt Whitney , the highest point in lower 48 states at over 14,000 ft. Yet no one in my home town needs an AWD truck unless they travel forest service roads or frequent snow.
    I was talking about the day-to day trips of urban San Diego and esp the LJ/RSF area that Nick hangs around at. Unless you are a true off-roader , one can traverse those areas you mention in a rusted out FWD or RWD econobox from the early 1970s.

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    aah986 said:I am gonna agree with nick on this one, within san diego county you have palomar mountain at 6126 feet (great steep twisties), hot springs mountain at 6400 feet, laguna mountains at 6500 feet and cuyamaca mountains at 6515 feet, not to mention about an hour north you have big bear mountain at 8800 feet. These are hardly itty bitty mesas


    I love San Diego, but those mountains are wimpy

    14,300 ft. paved road just a few miles from me

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    aah986 said:

    I am gonna agree with nick on this one, within san diego county you have palomar mountain at 6126 feet (great steep twisties), hot springs mountain at 6400 feet, laguna mountains at 6500 feet and cuyamaca mountains at 6515 feet, not to mention about an hour north you have big bear mountain at 8800 feet. These are hardly itty bitty mesas



    I grew uo a couple hours from Mt Whitney , the highest point in lower 48 states at over 14,000 ft. Yet no one in my home town needs an AWD truck unless they travel forest service roads or frequent snow.
    I was talking about the day-to day trips of urban San Diego and esp the LJ/RSF area that Nick hangs around at. Unless you are a true off-roader , one can traverse those areas you mention in a rusted out FWD or RWD econobox from the early 1970s.


    It certainly feels weird to defend nberry but maybe he uses his Cayenne S like I use mine when I go skiing to big bear or Mammoth mountain where I find it very useful, so you see, it is ok to own an SUV in san diego even if you don't go offroad which I do sometimes

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    I'd show you a picture of my Z in the snow but it doesn't snow much here in Florida

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    bondmid003 said:
    I'd show you a picture of my Z in the snow but it doesn't snow much here in Florida



    That's okay, just show us some sand dune shots.

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    bondmid003 said:
    I'd show you a picture of my Z in the snow but it doesn't snow much here in Florida



    That's okay, just show us some sand dune shots.



    I think you guys with your AWD would do better in the sand then me.

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    It certainly feels weird to defend nberry but maybe he uses his Cayenne S like I use mine when I go skiing to big bear or Mammoth mountain where I find it very useful, so you see, it is ok to own an SUV in san diego even if you don't go offroad which I do sometimes



    Why are all my cars AWD , because I have a place at Tahoe.Who wants to deal with chains over Donner Pass ? Plus all the icy roads at lake level when chains are long removed. Do I really need AWD here in the Bay Area ? Of course not..and neither does anyone around SD, unless , like you, they go off road or to the snow .I suspect my Turbo has seen more snow than Nick's Cayenne .

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    Great picture! I have to say I am impressed!

     
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