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    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    Thank you!

    Tiff is 1 of my favorite test drivers all over Europe

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    Great video!

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    Thanks for posting the link.. Excellent car!

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    Thanks for the link!

    Although I am disappointed by the lack of opinions on handling/performance/suspension/gearbox etc...

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    THANKS Tony, Great video

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    Oh sweet mother of mercy.

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    I watched it last night on Fifth Gear. Tiff in the 430 Scuderia was as quick around Fiorano as he was in the Enzo. That doesn't mean that a Ferrari test driver would produce the same times in both cars though...just that Tiff did the same time in both cars. But Tiff is a good driver so it certainly counts for something.

    I just thought the sight of this guy (who is no longer young) driving around Modena making a lot of noise to get attention was just a little comical...

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    But the 430 Scuderia itself was amaaaaaazing!!! What a car!!!

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    I love the crowd reactions when he blips the throttle around the city.

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    easy_rider911 said:
    I watched it last night on Fifth Gear. Tiff in the 430 Scuderia was as quick around Fiorano as he was in the Enzo. That doesn't mean that a Ferrari test driver would produce the same times in both cars though...just that Tiff did the same time in both cars. But Tiff is a good driver so it certainly counts for something.

    I just thought the sight of this guy (who is no longer young) driving around Modena making a lot of noise to get attention was just a little comical...



    The official ferrari-testdriver is also as quick in the 430 Scuderia as he is in the Enzo.
    He mentioned, it's because of the Scuderias ability of later braking and sooner accelerating.

    Official time for both is 1:25 - what time did tiff achieve?

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    1min 29.4sec

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    thats not too fast - official F-times:

    55.999 Schu, F2004, 2004
    58.360 Massa, F2007, 2007
    ...
    1:18.0 FXX
    1:25,0 Enzo / 430 Scud
    1:26.5 360 CS / F599
    1:27.0 F430
    1:29.0 F50
    1:30.0 F40 / 360 Modena

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

    The next Ferrari Supercar better have something for that ass ... cause I can hear a lot of grumbling from Enzo owners already. How the hell is your entry level model in semi-race trim going to be as quick than your hypercar!

    Enzo prices are going to come down somewhat I guarantee and 430 Scud prices will escalate.

    Re: tiff tests 430 scud

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    Heist said:
    The next Ferrari Supercar better have something for that ass ... cause I can hear a lot of grumbling from Enzo owners already. How the hell is your entry level model in semi-race trim going to be as quick than your hypercar!

    Enzo prices are going to come down somewhat I guarantee and 430 Scud prices will escalate.



    ROTFLMAO

    There are 5 years difference between them.
    For example the F430 laps just like F50.

    It`s normal development, and you have to take in consideration that nowadays they get to implement solutions faster than they did in the past.

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    I don't know why exactly, but I'm guessing on new tires and the current track the F50 would be quicker than its time up there.

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    enzomikael said:
    Quote:
    Heist said:
    The next Ferrari Supercar better have something for that ass ... cause I can hear a lot of grumbling from Enzo owners already. How the hell is your entry level model in semi-race trim going to be as quick than your hypercar!

    Enzo prices are going to come down somewhat I guarantee and 430 Scud prices will escalate.



    ROTFLMAO

    There are 5 years difference between them.
    For example the F430 laps just like F50.

    It`s normal development, and you have to take in consideration that nowadays they get to implement solutions faster than they did in the past.



    F430 and F50 is a fair comparison. There's what, a 10 year R&D gap between the two.

    But the F430 was released BEFORE the Enzo ... the 430 Scud is essentially a tweaked F430, so it stands to reason those improvements and developments could have been put in the Enzo.

    Much in same the FXX is a highly tweaked Enzo.

    I mean, it's just really bad form in my opinion to charge god ass amount of the Enzo did and then 4 years later show a model that does the same time with less power at 1/2 the cost.

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    The Enzo was a 2002 car while the F430 came out in 2005.

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    Modrocket_stereo said:
    The Enzo was a 2002 car while the F430 came out in 2005.



    1. short track limits Enzo's ability to stretch its legs.
    2. latest tire technology used on Scud vs Enzo
    3. Superior electronics really make a big difference.

    New F450 will be a MONSTER! Too bad about the significant wait times for the Scud (and most other Ferraris). Should one wait for the F450 or take the plunge for a Scud? IMO, current F430 owners would be better served waiting for the F450 while non owners might as well go ahead and order the Scud - just my opinion.

     
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