Crown

Board: Porsche - Boxster - 987 Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    Yes, this is a real advantage. Audis are always heavy. But look at the Golf R weight and when VW brings it to around 400HP.... Yes it's only a Golf, but half price to a well optioned Cayman.

    The will only be a 50 to 100kg advantage to the coming M2 with 370HP and a base price around 54k. Hard times for a Cayman S/GTS. Of course not for the GT4....

    As far as I know Porsche. They will not come with the 360HP version for the S or GTS.
    Here I expect only the usual 10-15HP increases with FL.
    My guess 335HP for the S, 350HP for the GTS, later a special edtion with 360HP. This are Cayman figures. Boxster as always 10HP less. This means 325HP for the Boxster S, fine but nothing to be euphoric. In this case no power/weight advantage to the M2 for the Cayman S and equality for the Cayman GTS, which will not be awailable before 2017.


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    acky:

    Yes, this is a real advantage. Audis are always heavy. But look at the Golf R weight and when VW brings it to around 400HP.... Yes it's only a Golf, but half price to a well optioned Cayman.

    The will only be a 50 to 100kg advantage to the coming M2 with 370HP and a base price around 54k. Hard times for a Cayman S/GTS. Of course not for the GT4....

    As far as I know Porsche. They will not come with the 360HP version for the S or GTS.
    Here I expect only the usual 10-15HP increases with FL.
    My guess 335HP for the S, 350HP for the GTS, later a special edtion with 360HP. This are Cayman figures. Boxster as always 10HP less. This means 325HP for the Boxster S, fine but nothing to be euphoric. In this case no power/weight advantage to the M2 for the Cayman S and equality for the Cayman GTS, which will not be awailable before 2017.

    If one only cares about power, then these other brands are a steal compared to the Cayman. Once you factor in handling things look very different.

    Porsches were never about raw power. It is the complete package which sets the Cayman (and most other models) apart from the competition IMHO.


    --

    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    I agree with you. Feel and handling in a P car is superior the the Audi, BMW and so on cars. Even to the M and Audi RS cars.

    But I suspect Cayman sales will go even more down with the .2
    I think is a big mistake not to use the smaller 6 cylinder turbo for the S and GTS. For the non-S it is OK.

    I would immidiate order a Cayman GTS.2 when it will come with the B6 2.7 turbo as DD. With 4 cylinder, no way. I tend to try the M2 with 6 cylinders and more power and a more practical layout as the Cayman for a considerable lower price (65k to 95k optioned).

    Porsche have to be cautious with the 981 platform. So nice, so much potential, but it's not really used and later with the .2 even more devalued compared to the 911 and the 981 competitors.
    A clever move to force the people to the 911 but it could be a own goal, when the 981 customers leave to competitors (like me).


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    My marketing prediction for the 981.2: there will be close to 10% (being generous to the usual 3%) of buyers who care about the responsiveness and sound of a NA flat 6. They will keep current cars or buy late model used, causing a drop in demand nearing 80% amongst themselves or 8% total sales reduction.

    Among the other 90% who want more hp and torque or the turbo name, and often don’t know how many cylinders are in their cars engine; there will be a demand increase of 10% amongst themselves or 9% total sales increase.

    Overall net of 1% increase in sales. smiley


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    Anyone know if this electric turbo lag reduction will be on the boxster/cayman engines?

    electric turbo.jpeg


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    I would guess so, but no knowledge.


    --

    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550


    Re: 1.6l 4 cilinder Boxster

    I think that the boxster/cayman architecture is not capable to implement electric turbochargers, just like the 991, but no knowledge as well.


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 10/25/21 12:29 AM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    478484 1291
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020) 10/18/21 10:58 PM
    Leawood911
    174760 1150
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 10/14/21 6:25 PM
    bluelines
    68483 382
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 10/26/21 8:39 AM
    Porker
    61910 646
    Porsche Sticky ROAD TEST: New 992 Carrera 4S 3/3/21 10:57 PM
    Wonderbar
    47807 336
    Porsche Sticky Porsche Taycan Turbo S - Short Review 10/26/21 3:26 AM
    Leawood911
    47288 447
    Porsche Sticky Porsche extends the Taycan model range (Taycan 2WD) 2/1/21 12:42 PM
    Leawood911
    13065 29
    Porsche Cayman GT4 10/5/21 7:04 PM
    Topspeed
    470822 3587
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 9/28/21 3:25 AM
    WhoopsyM
    387812 3507
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 10/20/21 6:01 PM
    Topspeed
    383204 3919
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 4/28/21 12:26 PM
    W8MM
    349415 3252
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 10/8/21 11:41 AM
    xpto
    319005 2647
    Porsche 992 GT3 10/22/21 10:59 AM
    reginos
    270933 3051
    Porsche OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 9/29/21 1:59 AM
    watt
    252891 1587
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016) 2/11/21 9:22 AM
    Itsme
    168637 1379
    Lambo Lamborghini Huracan and variants 4/9/21 4:32 PM
    Topspeed
    119053 1225
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 9/22/21 1:28 AM
    Leawood911
    103372 749
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 10/9/21 1:11 PM
    CGX car nut
    94385 1231
    McLaren F1 7/10/21 7:43 AM
    BiTurbo
    82857 209
    Lambo Aventador and SV 8/27/21 2:33 PM
    Topspeed
    72801 698
    AMG AMG GT R 7/8/21 3:07 PM
    CGX car nut
    72605 824
    Porsche Nürburgring - Tesla vs. Taycan 11/23/20 6:10 PM
    Topspeed
    51443 596
    Others Tesla 2 the new thread 10/26/21 4:30 AM
    WhoopsyM
    49436 1208
    Others Bugatti Chiron 10/16/21 4:53 PM
    crayphile
    43107 486
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 6/24/21 6:30 PM
    Porker
    40574 531
    Porsche Olive 991.2 GT3 Clubsport 1/1/21 7:58 PM
    throt
    39437 615
    BMW M BMW M2 Rumors 7/7/21 8:38 PM
    Jim_in_Iowa
    30789 394
    Ferrari 488 Replacement 4/17/21 8:28 PM
    Rossi
    27732 370
    Motor Sp. [2021] Formula 1 10/25/21 8:03 PM
    WhoopsyM
    27384 785
    Porsche GT4RS 10/24/21 5:20 PM
    WhoopsyM
    27106 432
    257 items found, displaying 1 to 30.