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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    d997h:

    If I had to replace my cayman today I would take the new cayman. No matter how its power is generated, 4cyl or 6cyl, I do not care, as long as it delivers on the track and I trust it will.

    Smiley

    It would not surprise me if the new Cayman is very close to the GT4 when on Cup2 tires.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:
    d997h:

    If I had to replace my cayman today I would take the new cayman. No matter how its power is generated, 4cyl or 6cyl, I do not care, as long as it delivers on the track and I trust it will.

    Smiley

    It would not surprise me if the new Cayman is very close to the GT4 when on Cup2 tires.

    Where I live (high altitude), I suspect a 718S will be faster than GT4.  My GT4 loses 15-20% of its power and torque at the lowest local elevation and almost half at the highest.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMrHjL1ddgc

    Jump to 6:30 and listen to the sound of that RS. I for sure am not a Audi fan, but they did something good here. Also don't forget, the car is a 4WD!


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    This is the first Quattro/RS model under the Winkelmann's reign. Though he was directly not part of the original team, his impact will be felt before the TT RS goes on sale in November.  As a reminder, see what happened with the last car, outside the yet released SUV, the Aventador SV.  Its Haldex AWD system is very similar to the one found on the TT and, while somewhat limited when compared with the GNK system, it can be tuned for more dynamic performance than what is found in most Audi products. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Being cheaper, better equipped, more powerful, having a better sounding 6 cylinder and not  too bad looking, do you consider the new BMW M2 as a viable and realistic alternative to the 718CS even though ultimately it's not a Porsche? I for one, like  (very much so)  the look of the new Cayman but absolutely hate the fact that it's now a 4 pot.

    Would you consider an new M2 instead of the same money 997.2 S (circa 50k km's/31k miles) for sheer driving thrills?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    WAY:

    RC, guess what? You can option the TT RS with wing delete for the new model!

    Seriously? I didn't know that. Good to know. 

    If only Porsche does the same for GT3...Also, the new aluminium block 5 cyl turbo is now 26kg lighter than the old one. This will help weight distribution tremendously. Yes, it's going to be so much faster than a Cayman S!

    Porsche is rumored to consider such a thing (GT3 wing delete) but it could be at a price (needs to be replaced by changed front and rear). Yes, I read about the lighter engine and the new TT RS is going to be a beast for sure. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Lars997:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMrHjL1ddgc

    Jump to 6:30 and listen to the sound of that RS. I for sure am not a Audi fan, but they did something good here. Also don't forget, the car is a 4WD!

    Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Since we do not have dedicated new TT RS thread here is long video about it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aTTzPiXhSM

    Btw, new TT RS Coupe is as fast in straight line as 991.2 CS. No kidding. 

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    Your GT4 is still drive dynamics champ!Smiley

    But, fully optioned 718 Cayman S for 100k € or fully optioned TT RS for 70k €?

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    KresoF1:
    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    Your GT4 is still drive dynamics champ!Smiley

    Of course Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    and fully optioned M2 70k €

    I think the 718 Cayman will again be no success in Europe. Even with the price decrease. Only naked the Cayman (and the Boxster) are in the right price range.   
    4 cylinders and more expensive then the competitors.surprise

    The pricing is only OK inside the Porsche universe.

    As GT4 and Spyder kiss
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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    And with some luck, the ABT chip won't void the warranty because ABT is considered to be some sort of "house tuner" for VW and Audi. Just imagine a 450 hp TT RS for under 80k EUR, fully optioned. Ouch.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    KresoF1:
    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    Your GT4 is still drive dynamics champ!Smiley

    But, fully optioned 718 Cayman S for 100k € or fully optioned TT RS for 70k €?

     

    Why would anyone order a fully optioned Cayman S? A perfectly configured car is EUR 85K. How can one compare a front-heavy, highly tweaked VW with a pure, purpose build mid-engined sports car? Porsche has never been for the price sensitive clients. Those looking for horsepower, engine sound and funky interiors should look elsewhere. I can't imagine anyone looking for a true sports car choosing a TTRS over Cayman. I'd rather look at the //M range if I need some practicality.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    A perfectly configurated for 85k €?

    I am affraid not so. Add all needed drive dynamic goodies (PDK, SPASM, PTV, SC, PSE) and Bucket seats and you will end with 20" wheels at more then 90k €. No extra leather, CF, Alu trim or something similar.

    You have to be die hard 718 Cayman S fan to buy it. That is the fact.

    Despite my personal opinion that 718 Cayman S will be(with all drive dynamic goodies) a great car to drive.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    KresoF1:

    A perfectly configurated for 85k €?

    I am affraid not so. Add all needed drive dynamic goodies (PDK, SPASM, PTV, SC, PSE) and Bucket seats and you will end with 20" wheels at more then 90k €. No extra leather, CF, Alu trim or something similar.

    You have to be die hard 718 Cayman S fan to buy it. That is the fact.

    Despite my personal opinion that 718 Cayman S will be(with all drive dynamic goodies) a great car to drive.

    Nobody doubts that but otherwise... Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    RC:
    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    And with some luck, the ABT chip won't void the warranty because ABT is considered to be some sort of "house tuner" for VW and Audi. Just imagine a 450 hp TT RS for under 80k EUR, fully optioned. Ouch.

    At least in Switzerland this is the case. The official Audi garage does the ABT installation and the warranty is not voided.


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    And with some luck, the ABT chip won't void the warranty because ABT is considered to be some sort of "house tuner" for VW and Audi. Just imagine a 450 hp TT RS for under 80k EUR, fully optioned. Ouch.

    At least in Switzerland this is the case. The official Audi garage does the ABT installation and the warranty is not voided.

    You can even test it before you buy it, with a ' test' box on your car !


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    I am not a die hard fan but since the GT4 with PDK will not happen I plan to get a 718 for a track car. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    ...and with an ABT chip it is probably way faster angry

    A lot of all-season performance for the money.

    And with some luck, the ABT chip won't void the warranty because ABT is considered to be some sort of "house tuner" for VW and Audi. Just imagine a 450 hp TT RS for under 80k EUR, fully optioned. Ouch.

    At least in Switzerland this is the case. The official Audi garage does the ABT installation and the warranty is not voided.

    In the US, I think Stasis had/has this status.  I have seen their tuned cars on the showroom of Audi dealers here (brand new cars with no miles) and the warranty was said to be in tact.

    http://www.stasisengineering.com/


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Nope, Stasis warrantied the cars themselves, and when they folded, everyone with a Stasis car and problems with it got shafted.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    noone1:

    Nope, Stasis warrantied the cars themselves, and when they folded, everyone with a Stasis car and problems with it got shafted.

    Ouch!  Didn't know...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    acky:

    and fully optioned M2 70k €

    I think the 718 Cayman will again be no success in Europe. Even with the price decrease. Only naked the Cayman (and the Boxster) are in the right price range.   
    4 cylinders and more expensive then the competitors.surprise

    The pricing is only OK inside the Porsche universe.

    As GT4 and Spyder kiss
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    The Cayman could be a success if people would go for the very base entry model. For around 60k they can have a nice little toy. But if you are crazy with specs - like most of us - the car is just nonsense as you probably quickly jump to 100k€. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    I specced a Cayman S yesterday and with the driving goodies (PDK, Torque Vec, PASM, PSE, etc.) and some further extras - I got roughly 90T€ in total. I am sure that you can specc any car, especially, a Porsche to double its base price, however, I would put myself into a moderate category and then I think, it is ok...(glad, I have my Cayman up and running...) ...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Already practising...
    (RC is coming in at 2:47)
    smiley

     

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Rossi:

    Already practising...
    (RC is coming in at 2:47)
    smiley

    Krav Maga Combat Ballet smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:
    Rossi:

    Already practising...
    (RC is coming in at 2:47)
    smiley

    Krav Maga Combat Ballet smiley

    According to what our instructor told us last time, this could be right...we sucked big time, was kind of a mess...the weather maybe...or PMS Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    What was the thread title again?

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    I'm glad we're staying on topic these days. 

    I'm sure there is a high-enough level of abstraction at which a connection does exist... I'm still looking...

     


     
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