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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    @Frank - if you add up your cornerweights they come to 1453kg. The 'leer' weight I guess has the ballast taken out again.


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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Nice discussion here...I finally made it to the ring...smiley

    Blueflame

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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Fantastic thread blueflame !! Keep it coming ! 


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Good look at those swan necks on the GT4 CS kiss


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Those 718 GT4 pics are the first time I've thought the new front end looks good.  Still not sold on rear diffuser.

    Blueflame, do you prefer the GT2 buckets in your Touring to the 918 style seats in your GT4?


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    How do you like the 992 in the wild?


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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Grant:

    It is much easier to feel a small weight difference in a car that is already lightened.  I have a 73 911 that weighs 857kg and I have an old style racing battery that weighs 11kg.  The battery is located in the very front of the frunk (in front of fuel cell in this photo, but out of view) and thinking about a Lithium battery instead that would weigh a small fraction of this.  I think I will feel the difference.

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    In my GT3, I can slightly feel the difference with a passenger.  In my 911, I can feel the difference with a passenger very easily...

    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    +1

    I can feel it if the washer fluid tank is half empty in the 690kg Donkervoort indecision

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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    spudgun:

    +1  I can feel it if the washer fluid tank is half empty in the 690kg Donkervoort indecision

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    Smiley


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    DaveGordon:

    @Frank - if you add up your cornerweights they come to 1453kg. The 'leer' weight I guess has the ballast taken out again.


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1

     

    Indeed, the leer is of course without the ballast. 


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    vantagesc:

    Those 718 GT4 pics are the first time I've thought the new front end looks good.  Still not sold on rear diffuser.

    Blueflame, do you prefer the GT2 buckets in your Touring to the 918 style seats in your GT4?

    I had the 918 seats in my 981 Spyder and the folding buckets in my Carrera T and Touring, The folding buckets are a little bit lighter and the 918 seats are a little bit more comfortable for long distance trips. On the track both are very good...

    Blueflame


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    spudgun:

    How do you like the 992 in the wild?

    Tough question...the new „green“ Coupé was very nice...the convertibles with the cheap black plastik on the back were a little bit difficult.Smiley

    Blueflame


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    I noticed this square exhaust tips on the red car, never seen these ones before Smiley

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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Non PSE tips? 


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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Carlos from Spain:

    Non PSE tips? 

    For the non-S Carrera, would make sense.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Nice thread and wonderful weather in der Eifel!

    Interesting to follow your experience with the battery.

     


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Kobalt:

    Nice thread and wonderful weather in der Eifel!

    It’s been snowy in Denver (but warm today) - big icy mess in front of my house.  I know most people don’t travel to der Eifel for the weather, but sounding like an upgrade for me indecision


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Grant:

    It’s been snowy in Denver (but warm today) - big icy mess in front of my house.  I know most people don’t travel to der Eifel for the weather, but sounding like an upgrade for me indecision

    Smiley   Soon!


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    spudgun:

    I noticed this square exhaust tips on the red car, never seen these ones before Smiley

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    997.2 4S / BMW X5 40e / Donkervoort GT 

     

    Compared to the blue car, the whole rear bumper is different


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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    I think that’s the optional Sport Design bumper on the red car.


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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Another 800 Km short-trip to the Ring today to pick up the Touring at Manthey.

    The Ring is still closed for construction works and the Autobahn was crazy crowded today.

    So the final report after the suspension set up from Manthey has to wait until march, when we visit the Sachsenring.

    Blueflame

    PS Rennteam members with good eyes will see the rest of Manthey‘s work...smiley

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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    What’s the mark on the front grill?

    you, Sir, installed a cage indecision interested to know how Manthey did that. 

    Let us the list of adjustment they did. I love these discussions. 


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    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    the-missile:

    What’s the mark on the front grill?

    you, Sir, installed a cage indecision interested to know how Manthey did that. 

    Let us the list of adjustment they did. I love these discussions. 

    Was about to write the same... what did they say regarding the mounting points for the cage?

    Interesting to see you put a “Porsche Classic” license plate holder on the car, seems to be an instant classic for you... Smiley


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    For sure, they created mounting point. Touring doesn't have them...


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Thanks for the GT4 Clubsport pics! Smiley

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    ...looks great, but for a road car I would prefer the GT4 "Touring" option without that swan-neck rear-wing! Smiley


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    It's a brilliant feeling picking your car up there isn't it, knowing it's in the best shape it could be...


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport

     


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    the-missile:

    What’s the mark on the front grill?

    you, Sir, installed a cage indecision interested to know how Manthey did that. 

    Let us the list of adjustment they did. I love these discussions. 

    Sharp eyes Sir...Smiley

    The grill-badge is of the Goodwood Road Racing Company, as I´m a big fan of the "Festival of Speed" and the "Revival Meeting" since the 1990th...

    Regarding the cage...Nberry sure will have to say something to this...Smiley. I said it often, but here again - I like to track my cars, but I hate wings on streetcars. So what can you do, if you want the 4.0 NA Engine with a manual Gearbox and you are not wealthy enough for an 991 R....? A cage for saftey and for using a 6-Point-Belt would be great also...

    Than came the .2 Touring...

    First thought would be to buy a cheaper 991.2 GT3 Clubsport and put an Touring engine lid on it. But if you want this conversion with OEM parts, it is almost impossible and the calculated cost are over 15K€.

    In 12/2018 I spoke to Manthey-Racing about the possibilities of installing the clubsport halfcage in a Touring - and surprise - someone else had the same idea and they found a solution to do it. As the Touring misses the installation mounts for the cage, they reinforce the parts of the car and the cage is as safe as the OEM version AND it´s German TÜV approved and will be registered in the car documents. Very important for insurance reasons.

    For someone, who wants a PDK-Touring - it is cheaper to buy a .1 GT3 Clubsport and let them do the expensive conversion - they already did in once.

    Just a few people will understand my entire projectSmiley, but I will have soon exactly the car I want, which reminds me so much (optic and driving) of my old beloved 964 RS. On my old Base 964 RS had the cage some years after the delivery at the factory in Zuffenhausen in 1998 - at that time, I paid them the same  figure as in 2019 to Manthey-Racing...in D-Mark...Smiley

    Next step - installation Liteblox - on the scale again and then Sachsenring Trackday.

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    Porker:

    It's a brilliant feeling picking your car up there isn't it, knowing it's in the best shape it could be...


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport

     

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    Blueflame


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    What happened to this gorgeous 964RS? This is my dream 911.

    for the mods, interesting to know that Manthey can do some magic.  After all, they are PAG with another flag indecision

    did you play with camber? Weight cornering? Toe? Did you keep all parts stock or you added their extended arms?

     


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    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    SportCarGroup:
    spudgun:

    I noticed this square exhaust tips on the red car, never seen these ones before Smiley

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    It is probably the Carerra - without the "S". Should be announced soon, too. 


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Lars997:
    SportCarGroup:
    spudgun:

    I noticed this square exhaust tips on the red car, never seen these ones before Smiley

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    It is probably the Carerra - without the "S". Should be announced soon, too. 

    ...maybe it will look better in black! Smiley


     
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