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    Re: 488 Replacement

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    for me the main problem with the design is that the back doesent fit to the front.


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    hunterone:

    for me the main problem with the design is that the back doesent fit to the front.

    I agree.


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    ISUK:

    Some more shots of the Batista by way of comparison.

    Ferrari is being put to shame by the mid-engined cars that are being unveiled at the Geneva show, at least design wise. Those two new Astons (despite being still on development) look stunning.


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    “ Alongside the two Ferrari Tributos in Scuderia Red and Corsa Blue, a Tristrato Yellow 812 Superfast, a tailor-made Luxury Blue GTC4 and and a Glossy Aluminium Portofino are on show at the Ferrari stand at the Geneva Motor Show”

    No Way!!

    No special 20k Rosso Tributo ?? 


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    hunterone:

    for me the main problem with the design is that the back doesent fit to the front.

    looks like a mclaren


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    New Ferrari V6 Hybrid due in three months

     

    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ferrari/106214/new-ferrari-v6-hybrid-due-in-three-months


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    Cheap journalism as usual ,

    V6 turbo hybrid should be ready end of 2021 ,

    in May Ferrari will show the top of the range V8 hybrid mid engine .


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    JEANTET:

    Cheap journalism as usual ,

    V6 turbo hybrid should be ready end of 2021 ,

    in May Ferrari will show the top of the range V8 hybrid mid engine .

    Smiley That V8 hybrid will be in the LaFerrari class (performance-wise).


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    Maybe the rumoured Portofino Coupé will start with V6 hybrid already?


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    They have delayed this engine because of its innovative and complex architecture, i really doubt it will appear in three months from now in a portofino chassis ..

    Ps : seems like the new V8 tt hybrid coming in may will have the new modular platform of course BUT with the passenger cell in carbon to compensate battteries weight .

    exciting times ahead !


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    JEANTET:

    They have delayed this engine because of its innovative and complex architecture, i really doubt it will appear in three months from now in a portofino chassis ..

    Ps : seems like the new V8 tt hybrid coming in may will have the new modular platform of course BUT with the passenger cell in carbon to compensate battteries weight .

    exciting times ahead !

    Lately, I get the feeling that many car manufacturers push out the best and latest they have as fast as possible before the EV apocalypse hits us. Smiley Smiley


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    Smiley


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    Mithras:

    This is what it should have looked like (and would probably have if Pininfarina had done the design). Pininfarina's Battista, the Italian design firm’s first-ever branded car, is going to be a 1,900 horsepower EV.

     


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    Hard to be convinced of any of the post-pininfarina designs.... maybe there is an easy solution here??


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    Flávio Manzoni and his team seem to get no credit for the La Ferrari  or the FXXK which are wonderful designs. Also the Pista to my mind is a triumph - showing others how to make a good looking car that is aero driven. However, the true test will be how the new mid-engined platform cars look like. That will be their first car entirely by themselves for the core Ferrari market.


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    Never liked the design of the Larifari. The rear is alright, but the front with this anchor-thingie looks ridiculous. Sorry.
    I also think the Pista is no design masterpiece. Again, the rear looks quite good, but the front with this massive indention and the small mustache like wing doesn't do it for me.


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    the super cars are less good looking now thatn decades ago and this is a fact, very stupid in my opinion to make another low target ferrari after the portofino, I think there is no need for it.

    Stay high and don't be a mass producer......


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    Rossi:

    Never liked the design of the Larifari. The rear is alright, but the front with this anchor-thingie looks ridiculous. Sorry.
    I also think the Pista is no design masterpiece. Again, the rear looks quite good, but the front with this massive indention and the small mustache like wing doesn't do it for me.

    You saved yourself a lot of money SmileySmiley.


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    Rossi:

    Never liked the design of the Larifari. The rear is alright, but the front with this anchor-thingie looks ridiculous. Sorry.
    I also think the Pista is no design masterpiece. Again, the rear looks quite good, but the front with this massive indention and the small mustache like wing doesn't do it for me.

    Speaking of moustaches: My daughter calls the new Aventador SVJ "Moustache" for obvious reasons. 😂


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    I agree with you Stefan. Up until the SP1 and SP2 Monza models the Manzoni era of styling has been a jumbled mixture of clashing styling features that are neither elegant, graceful or classically beautiful. His team have tried to work current styling trends onto Pinifarina designs with increasingly poor results IMHO. The timeless elegance has been lost in a desire to provide on trend and aggressive looking models instead. The La Ferrari is better in person than in photographs but still a very polarising design. 

    The real test of Manzoni will be the next generation of cars which have no links to the Pinifarina era.


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    crayphile:
    Rossi:

    Never liked the design of the Larifari. The rear is alright, but the front with this anchor-thingie looks ridiculous. Sorry.
    I also think the Pista is no design masterpiece. Again, the rear looks quite good, but the front with this massive indention and the small mustache like wing doesn't do it for me.

    You saved yourself a lot of money SmileySmiley.

     
    Haha, indeed. Smiley Smiley


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    The Ferrari brand is very strong and has a devoted loyal client base. When you factor in limited production, they won’t have any problem selling their cars regardless of styling. Pinafarina was excess baggage.


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    Pininfarina added the final touch up part called "The Beauty".


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    BiTurbo:

    Pininfarina added the final touch up part called "The Beauty".

    Smiley


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    One problem that this side photo shows, is that the air requirements (presumably more so for these turbo engines?) now dominate the styling, in a way that is not attractive.  It is very difficult to make a big hole pretty, to put it simply.  In this regard, McLaren's innovation for the 720S, in hiding the required airflow to allow a more unbroken side view, is notable.  


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    .....the rear wheel opening looks out of proportion


     
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