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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    d997h:

    They still have no infos about new 991 Touring quotes with particle filter at my OPC...Smiley

    Blueflame

     

    Unless you write this comment in the Carrera T thread, no one will notice and the thread will be dead.Smiley Smiley

    SmileySmiley Better here than in the R8-thread...Smiley

    Next T-Track day is on 19.09.2018 at Hockenheim - pics will follow for the T-thread....Smiley

    But I´m really now on a PTS-Touring-fantasy, if they produce some more of the 991.2 GT3.

    Blueflame


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Porker:

    Why the horrible blacked out lights? Makes a an impressive project looked like a tuned Dubai car...

    Target market angryindecision


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Blueflame, have you considered the new colour Bamboo metallic (I think that is it's name?). Here is it is a PTS on 991.2 targa and it looks like it will be a regular offering on the facelifted Macan as there are pictures of it going down the production line on the web.

    Bamboo metallic targa.JPG

    Bamboo metallic.JPG

     


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    The color on the Macan is Mamba green


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    ISUK:

    Blueflame, have you considered the new colour Bamboo metallic (I think that is it's name?). Here is it is a PTS on 991.2 targa and it looks like it will be a regular offering on the facelifted Macan as there are pictures of it going down the production line on the web.

    Thanks ISUK - I will be at Stuttgart a few times during the next weeks and hope to have a chance to see the new color live...Smiley

    Blueflame


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Porsche’s Project Gold 993 Turbo Sells In 10 Minutes, Fetches $3 Million





    After 37 bids were placed over the course of just 10 minutes, the Project Gold 911 sold for a massive €2.7 million – or about $3.08 million at current exchange rates.


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Should give Porsche some ideas .....


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    impossible to drive on public road...2.7M smiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Whoopsy:

    It is indeed a impressive project.

    It will be going off on auction Oct 27th.

    My guess is it will easily go over a million dollars. Maybe even 2.

     

    Even at my top end I still under value the car by a good 50%!

    2.7Mil Euros is 3.1M US. 

    Sometimes it's hard to put a price on a 1 of 1. There won't be any comparables.

    It isn't matter if Singer can do restorations better than Porsche, at the end of the day it's just a Singer, not a Porsche. Even if it is considered a Porsche, it is only a restored 964.

    At Rennsport Reunion, Porsche cars are grouped by kind in the parking lot, guess where the arriving Singers got directed to? The 964 lot, same as every other restored 964s, there isn't a Singer lot. 

     


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    But a Singer looks much better then this car 


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Gnil:

    But a Singer looks much better then this car 

    Not an "original" Porsche though... Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Whoopsy:
    Whoopsy:

    It is indeed a impressive project.

    It will be going off on auction Oct 27th.

    My guess is it will easily go over a million dollars. Maybe even 2.

     

     

    At Rennsport Reunion, Porsche cars are grouped by kind in the parking lot, guess where the arriving Singers got directed to? The 964 lot, same as every other restored 964s, there isn't a Singer lot. 

     

    Your point being? Smiley

    As if an owner of a Singer would have his feelings hurt because he's on the 964 parking. Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    RC:
    Gnil:

    But a Singer looks much better then this car 

    Not an "original" Porsche though... Smiley

    Ok, but if the Porsche original looks like an aftermarket Dubai tuning job, I know where my money would go...


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Porker:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    But a Singer looks much better then this car 

    Not an "original" Porsche though... Smiley

    Ok, but if the Porsche original looks like an aftermarket Dubai tuning job, I know where my money would go...

    That 993 doesn't look much different from the original cars but I agree, Singer uses a much more simplistic design, no doubt and the tech is probably newer.

    My favorite "classic" Porsche is still a 964 RS I saw once many many years ago. The car looked 100% original with the exception of the exhaust system (had a very thick single exhaust pipe). The "secret" of this car? It had a RS Tuning tuned 964 Turbo engine with over 450 hp. This car was so fast (not only straight line) and sounded amazing, can't forget it. Kind of a Singer predecessor if you want. Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    I assume an american bought the car, does somebody know if you can make this car road legal?


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    I wouldn’t get this car over a Singer, not even close...


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Porker:
    Whoopsy:
    Whoopsy:

    It is indeed a impressive project.

    It will be going off on auction Oct 27th.

    My guess is it will easily go over a million dollars. Maybe even 2.

     

     

    At Rennsport Reunion, Porsche cars are grouped by kind in the parking lot, guess where the arriving Singers got directed to? The 964 lot, same as every other restored 964s, there isn't a Singer lot. 

     

    Your point being? Smiley

    As if an owner of a Singer would have his feelings hurt because he's on the 964 parking. Smiley

     

    Actually there was a couple Singer owners at Rennsport that got really really pissed about the parking 


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

     

     

    Actually there was a couple Singer owners at Rennsport that got really really pissed about the parking 

    They forgot it is a base 964 at roughly 35k which is destroyed and rebuilt by an ex rock band singer indecision

    they should be honored to still be welcomed at Porsche meetingsmiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    the-missile:
     

     

    Actually there was a couple Singer owners at Rennsport that got really really pissed about the parking 

    They forgot it is a base 964 at roughly 35k which is destroyed and rebuilt by an ex rock band singer 

    they should be honored to still be welcomed at Porsche meeting

    Was he the Singer or the guitarist?

    Some people here tend to forget that the money spent for the above car is donated, I personally wouldn’t mind paying that sum in those circumstances. I donated some of my money already, that’s why I didn’t buy it. Smiley


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Singer is Fabulous.

    Period.

    it's the stuff of dreams.

    All this drivel about pedigree by nay sayers is immaterial.

    Nothing in the current Porsche line up ignites passions like a Singer, this uber expensive gold garage queen included. 

    End of discussion.

    Mike drop.

     


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Umm ... has anyone paid $3.1MM for a Singer, which is just a restomod 964?  No.


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Ferdie:

    Was he the Singer or the guitarist?

    SmileySmiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Ferdie:
     

    Was he the Singer or the guitarist?

    Some people here tend to forget that the money spent for the above car is donated, I personally wouldn’t mind paying that sum in those circumstances. I donated some of my money already, that’s why I didn’t buy it. Smiley

    Singer for sure and probably playing guitar. I spend interesting time with the guy while he was presenting his car in UAE. he is a nice guy and passionate about Porsche.

    the plate clearly states it, 911 reimagined Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Singer's are Porsche's dialled up to 11 (which you can see in the rpm gauge) there is nothing even close in the market ! Porsche owners who are pissed about driving into a different parking lot surely have a very small........ego......


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    BjoernB:

    Singer's are Porsche's dialled up to 11 (which you can see in the rpm gauge) there is nothing even close in the market ! Porsche owners who are pissed about driving into a different parking lot surely have a very small........ego......

    This isn't limited to Porsche drivers only...sometimes I wonder where some of these people get their ego from. Smiley 


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    I love Singers too, and I know Rob personally. 

    I love looking at one, driving one, seeing one, but I will never pay for one,.

    At the end of the day, it's just a Singer, not a Porsche. Actually not even, Singer is not classified as a manufacturer like Ruf, so it's a Porsche modified by Singer.

    Details Rob do is on par with Pagani, but that's also another brand I wouldn't pay money for.


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    What would you drive if you could just have 1 Sportscar ? ( and I mean drivable every day) Even if you say the Turbo Exclusive (which is fantastic) it's nowhere close to a Singer product.


    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    BjoernB:

    What would you drive if you could just have 1 Sportscar ? ( and I mean drivable every day) Even if you say the Turbo Exclusive (which is fantastic) it's nowhere close to a Singer product.

     

    Yes it would be the Exclusive.

    Apart from a few items, the Exclusive trumps the Singer in practically every category.

    AWD vs RWD

    607HP vs 500HP

    Modern interior with Nav screen vs well, old interior without nav screen

    PDK vs manual

    Comfortable and supportive 18 way seats vs race buckets lined with top shelf material

    Airbags vs no airbags

    Modern crash structure vs 1990s crash standard structures

    Singer cars are toys. Period. Owners of them have numerous cars and no owner of a Singer will drive it every day, there is just too much compromises. They are taken out to be driven once in a while.

     


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Whoopsy:
    BjoernB:

    What would you drive if you could just have 1 Sportscar ? ( and I mean drivable every day) Even if you say the Turbo Exclusive (which is fantastic) it's nowhere close to a Singer product.

     

    Yes it would be the Exclusive.

    Apart from a few items, the Exclusive trumps the Singer in practically every category.

    AWD vs RWD

    607HP vs 500HP

    Modern interior with Nav screen vs well, old interior without nav screen

    PDK vs manual

    Comfortable and supportive 18 way seats vs race buckets lined with top shelf material

    Airbags vs no airbags

    Modern crash structure vs 1990s crash standard structures

    Singer cars are toys. Period. Owners of them have numerous cars and no owner of a Singer will drive it every day, there is just too much compromises. They are taken out to be driven once in a while.

     

    you forgot multiple time the price of an Exclusive very limited Porsche 911.

     


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    Re: Porsche Project Gold - the 993 turbo S re-imagined by Porsche Classic

    Whoopsy:
    BjoernB:

    What would you drive if you could just have 1 Sportscar ? ( and I mean drivable every day) Even if you say the Turbo Exclusive (which is fantastic) it's nowhere close to a Singer product.

     

    Yes it would be the Exclusive.

    Apart from a few items, the Exclusive trumps the Singer in practically every category.

    AWD vs RWD

    607HP vs 500HP

    Modern interior with Nav screen vs well, old interior without nav screen

    PDK vs manual

    Comfortable and supportive 18 way seats vs race buckets lined with top shelf material

    Airbags vs no airbags

    Modern crash structure vs 1990s crash standard structures

    Singer cars are toys. Period. Owners of them have numerous cars and no owner of a Singer will drive it every day, there is just too much compromises. They are taken out to be driven once in a while.

     

    as much as I agree to the above you're still sitting in a mass product with every option ticket maybe - but to me not comparable to the craftsmanship of a Singer. As to the TurboS itself I have to agree that nowadays maybe the best Porsche product Smiley (and that from a NA fan Smiley)


     
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