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    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    First of all the V8 is 15kg lighter than the previous straight six in the E46 M3, and secondly it still ends up being cheap compared to a 911.

    In the UK a an E92 M3 with the right options will be Pounds55k, a 997 C2S will cost Pounds67k + cPounds7k for options, resulting in a price of Pounds74k. Nearly Pounds20k difference still sounds like a bargain to me.

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    What do you consider 'the right options'...?

    The RS4 was specced standard as such that you only had to add the tech pack really. I haven't studied the new M3 spec list but at first glance the must have seems to be 19s...and what else?

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    amazon said:
    I don't like the M3's price.

    The greatness of that car was that it was quite cheap compared to let's say, a 911 carrera.

    At 66.000 euro, it's too pricey. With options, ou''l have to sign a check of 75-80K. That's the price of a carrera 2.

    I'm also worried about that V8. Sounds great but the weight ... In addition, the design looks a bit over done, especially teh front and it's stupid bumper. Not to mention the bump on the bonnet. The all point of the M3 is to be invisible. People should think it's a 320d, not a rocket from space.

    The 335i sounds like a better deal to me.



    I was playing with the BMW.de car configurator and specced out a possible company car. An E92 335iA came out at almost 70.000 Euros . Not such a great bargain, when a car with the most essential options costs 55.000 Euros and doesn't stop until over 70...

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    throt said:
    Whats all the negs about , lads ..

    This will do me....



    Hey T. It's the "boy racer" awesome streamlining that's got me on negative.

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    Same thing was said about the E36 M3 v the E46 M3:

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    Pictures credit dg911

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

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    palenimbus said:
    Same thing was said about the E36 M3 v the E46 M3:



    You are absolutely right and to be honest the E36 is my prefered M3 design. Very subtle,everything is in the details. In addition after 11 years of ownership the car is still a fantastic drive. I feel much more connected to the road in my E36 than in my E46 (despite the competition package) and this is definitely a key parameter in the driving pleasure. Lets see how the E92 feels... from a design standpoint I am not totally convinced (but other brands are not better, I think car design is currently going through a crisis )

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    Hmm... Not sure about that prices...

    Here are the prices from Germany(incl. 19% Mwst), all cars with allmost the same specs:

    Audi S5 66.500Euro
    Audi RS4 Saloon 84.400Euro
    BMW 335i Coupe(manual) 58495Euro
    BMW M3 Coupe 85450Euro
    Porsche 997 Carrera Coupe 101.100Euro
    Porsche 997 Carrera S Coupe 107.200Euro

    Explanation-335i is with all normal options available except BMW Individual
    -M3/RS4 you should add around 2000Euro for official factory delimiting
    -997 models-here is the catch-this is the real difference in price with THE SAME options...

    BTW, I did not include Cayman S but, its price is around 91000Euro is same specs...

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    So what is the base price for all these cars Kreso?

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    Audi S5 55900Euro
    Audi RS4 Saloon 71700Euro
    BMW 335i Coupe 44650Euro
    BMW M3 Coupe 66650Euro
    Porsche Cayman S 60065Euro
    Porsche 997 Carrera Coupe 79938Euro
    Porsche 997 Carrera S Coupe 90529Euro

    All base prices in Germany incl. 19% Mwst

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    Quote:
    Crash said:
    Quote:
    amazon said:
    I don't like the M3's price.

    The greatness of that car was that it was quite cheap compared to let's say, a 911 carrera.

    At 66.000 euro, it's too pricey. With options, ou''l have to sign a check of 75-80K. That's the price of a carrera 2.

    I'm also worried about that V8. Sounds great but the weight ... In addition, the design looks a bit over done, especially teh front and it's stupid bumper. Not to mention the bump on the bonnet. The all point of the M3 is to be invisible. People should think it's a 320d, not a rocket from space.

    The 335i sounds like a better deal to me.



    I was playing with the BMW.de car configurator and specced out a possible company car. An E92 335iA came out at almost 70.000 Euros . Not such a great bargain, when a car with the most essential options costs 55.000 Euros and doesn't stop until over 70...



    mercedes prices have gone mad in the past few years. Bmw seems to have increased it's prices a lot lately too. Audis are still cheaper but cars are getting more and more expensive.

    The worst is that no one seems to complain anymore. If the M3's price is 66K, it's 10k more than it used too. 10k/56k (old M3), that's a 17% increase.

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    I will take as an all-around car the rs4 avant

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    KresoF1 said:
    Audi S5 55900Euro
    Audi RS4 Saloon 71700Euro
    BMW 335i Coupe 44650Euro
    BMW M3 Coupe 66650Euro
    Porsche Cayman S 60065Euro
    Porsche 997 Carrera Coupe 79938Euro
    Porsche 997 Carrera S Coupe 90529Euro

    All base prices in Germany incl. 19% Mwst



    Thanks. So I guess I can expect the M3 to be priced somewhere between a Cayman S and RS4. Guess I can accept that seeing that the M3 will already come with sat nav, tv, bi-xenons etc. The more I am getting used to the looks the more I am thinking of getting one! Anyone heard anything about its Ring time yet??? Surely it would be as quick as a 997C2?

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    Car is a BMW which unfortunately means having to use a BMW dealer. So on the basis of my last apalling experience, which left my BMW broken down 24 hours after a minor service (brake fluid change) in the middle of nowhere with my wife on her own means I won't be going for one. Or any other BMW.


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    1655 kg (with 75 kg driver) means 3470 lbs if that's with all fluids then not bad RELATIVE to E46

    Quote:
    Grant said:
    Official Press Release:

    http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/E2DF8A41-714F-4846-9066-E558310AB8D8/0/070405_The_new_BMW_M3.pdf


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    krC2S said:
    1655 kg (with 75 kg driver) means 3470 lbs if that's with all fluids then not bad RELATIVE to E46


    I agree, however, those are the Euro specs, US cars may weigh a bit more (as they usually do)...

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    Here's another video

    http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/auto/2007/04/bmw-m3/erste-bilder.html

    In addition to the ones that were released a few days ago

    http://www.auto-tuning-news.com/flash.html

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    The new M3 is much cooler and rawer than the old M3 E46. M3 E46 still has an elegant design but nowhere as cool or raw as the new M3..

    Only a fool would buy a M3 E46 over a M3 V8 if money wasnt an object.

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    Just_me said:Only a fool would buy a M3 E46 over a M3 V8 if money wasnt an object.


    Well, I might very well choose the old E30 M3 with the 4-cylinder motor (with a few mods) over the new V8 version. What kind of fool does that make me?

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

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    Grant said:
    Well, I might very well choose the old E30 M3 with the 4-cylinder motor (with a few mods) over the new V8 version. What kind of fool does that make me?



    An old one?

    Just kidding. Older cars really are fun to drive (less electronics and weight in the way).

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    Quote:
    Grant said:
    Quote:
    Just_me said:Only a fool would buy a M3 E46 over a M3 V8 if money wasnt an object.


    Well, I might very well choose the old E30 M3 with the 4-cylinder motor (with a few mods) over the new V8 version. What kind of fool does that make me?



    No fool, just an quaint old fart

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    Brochure E92 M3?

    http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/jsp/do...e_catalogue.pdf

    at page 10: what is Brake Force Display?????

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

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    andrea said:
    Brochure E92 M3?

    http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/jsp/do...e_catalogue.pdf

    at page 10: what is Brake Force Display?????



    It has been on BMWs for years now. It's just a sensor that relays the how heavily the driver brakes to the way the brake lights come on. So a gentle braking illuminates them in a normal fashion, whereas a heavy braking episode brightens them even further.

    Re: New BMW M3 official pics...

    Quote:
    SteveD said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Brochure E92 M3?

    http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/jsp/do...e_catalogue.pdf

    at page 10: what is Brake Force Display?????



    It has been on BMWs for years now. It's just a sensor that relays the how heavily the driver brakes to the way the brake lights come on. So a gentle braking illuminates them in a normal fashion, whereas a heavy braking episode brightens them even further.



    Yes,now I remember the thing.thanks!

     
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