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    Re: Corvette C7

    Grant:
    RC:

    Exactly...Cup 2 ZP...basically a slick with a little bit of profile. Totally useless and basically undrivable when it is wet.

    I thought the ZP means Run-Flat (ZP = Zero Pressure, no)?


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    Correct, these are run flats.  They do seem to have less tread than regular PSC2s, but I can't speak to the compound.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup+2+ZP

    RC is not correct that this tire is only available through Mercedes.  These tires are about $1500 USD / set through Tire Rack and other retailers.


    Re: Corvette C7

    vantagesc:
    Grant:
    RC:

    Exactly...Cup 2 ZP...basically a slick with a little bit of profile. Totally useless and basically undrivable when it is wet.

    I thought the ZP means Run-Flat (ZP = Zero Pressure, no)?


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

     

     

    Correct, these are run flats.  They do seem to have less tread than regular PSC2s, but I can't speak to the compound.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup+2+ZP

    RC is not correct that this tire is only available through Mercedes.  These tires are about $1500 USD / set through Tire Rack and other retailers.

    There is only one tiny little problem with your claim: This is not the version for the AMG GT-R. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Corvette C7

    Interesting lease offer for the Corvette Z06 (value 120k EUR) in Germany: 1200 EUR per month (officially 1276 EUR but dealers are willing to negotiate), 48 months, 10k km per year, no down payment. VAT (19%) included.


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    Re: Corvette C7

    JoeRockhead:

    The Corvette is 400 pounds fatter than the GT3. Apparently it's the heaviest Corvette to date. I guess they could use different materials to lower that weight, but then the price would go up accordingly.

    Corvette engineers know the c7 is a ancient pig. It's at the end of its life and its replacement next year will weigh less.

    C8 stingray ....mid engine v8

    C8 Eray mid engine v8 and front mounted electric motor hybrid awd

    very very fast.....prices will be much higher.

     


    Re: Corvette C7

    JimFlat6:
    JoeRockhead:

    The Corvette is 400 pounds fatter than the GT3. Apparently it's the heaviest Corvette to date. I guess they could use different materials to lower that weight, but then the price would go up accordingly.

    Corvette engineers know the c7 is a ancient pig. It's at the end of its life and its replacement next year will weigh less.

    C8 stingray ....mid engine v8

    C8 Eray mid engine v8 and front mounted electric motor hybrid awd

    very very fast.....prices will be much higher.

     

    Jim - can you confirm any of the rumors of a high-revving NA DOHC V8?


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    Re: Corvette C7

    Grant, yes and expect a output number that begins with a 7. kiss


    Re: Corvette C7

    JimFlat6:

    Grant, yes and expect a output number that begins with a 7. kiss

    Cool.  Smiley Read the rumor of 5.5L 700hp NA V8.  Redline must be near 9k?


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    Re: Corvette C7

    A 5.5 l 700 hp n/a V8 would be an amazing engine. How they are going to sell (or prior to that certify) it in Europe remains a mystery to me though.  Unless of course GM decides not to offer this car in Europe.


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    Re: Corvette C7

    That would be a great move by GM/Chevy, and NA!


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    Re: Corvette C7

    RC:
    vantagesc:
    Grant:
    RC:

    Exactly...Cup 2 ZP...basically a slick with a little bit of profile. Totally useless and basically undrivable when it is wet.

    I thought the ZP means Run-Flat (ZP = Zero Pressure, no)?


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

     

     

    Correct, these are run flats.  They do seem to have less tread than regular PSC2s, but I can't speak to the compound.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup+2+ZP

    RC is not correct that this tire is only available through Mercedes.  These tires are about $1500 USD / set through Tire Rack and other retailers.

    There is only one tiny little problem with your claim: This is not the version for the AMG GT-R. Smiley Smiley

     

    Why do we care about the AMG GT-R Cup 2s?  This is a thready about the Corvette.  This is what we call a straw man. :D


    Re: Corvette C7

    Jim,

    Front engine C8 500hp 60k MSRP ?  Mid Engine C* 500hp 80k MSRP ?

    Next September or September 2019?

     

    Thank you!


    Re: Corvette C7

    ARMD009:

    Jim,

    Front engine C8 500hp 60k MSRP ?  Mid Engine C* 500hp 80k MSRP ?

    Next September or September 2019?

     

    Thank you!

    If you add the electric motors, hp will be closer to 600 and 700. No way the C8 will be priced at $60-70,000 not with that power plant.


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    Re: Corvette C7

    The C8 will be mid engine and it will have a much higher price, it will not be a simple fiberglass body on a metal chassis with McPherson struts front and a rear transverse leaf spring like they are now. Expect way more than that. 

    As for outputs, think Boeings latest model designation for the top of the line model. For the hybrid E Ray awd model think a little under that. For the base model think 500bhp easy.

    top of the line mode, think Carrera GTS price with 488 plus performance.😎

    As for front engine corvettes, their baby boomer demographic is dying off so it will die also. The Corvette will be going up market in price, equipment and performance. The C8 Corvette will also be the first ever vette available in right hand drive. And If anyone here works at a certain German automobile lighting company .....angry Smiley

     

     


    Re: Corvette C7

    Since even the new Ford GT probably has trouble to outrun the 488 (talking straight line here), I doubt the 488 performance claim. 


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    Re: Corvette C7

    Jim,

    so "base" model is also mid engine?  500hp plus and over 80k base price for "base stingray?

    September 18 or 19?  Introduction...........

     


    Re: Corvette C7

    YES..... I was asking about the base (N/A) motor, if there is one offered on the base model


    Re: Corvette C7

    Repeat, the front engine era of corvettes is over. No mas. Finito. A New era is coming to Corvette.

    The Corvette plant was closed to the public this June 16th for a huge overhaul. Manufacture of the new cars begins next January. Over 1billion USD invested in plant upgrades alone. The C8 will get all New motors, new layout, new technology. We will See if they can meet their performance targets, their new dohc large displacement V8 is no joke. 


    Re: Corvette C7

    They should probably call it something else, its no longer a Vette in anything.


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    Re: Corvette C7

    Carlos from Spain:

    They should probably call it something else, its no longer a Vette in anything.

    They could call it just C8Smiley Sounds simple but catchy and lacks the reputation of the "old" name without leaving it behind completely. 

    A V8 n/a engine with 700 hp or more? This would be amazing. Again...I believe it when I see it but I still have my doubts.


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    Re: Corvette C7

    Carlos from Spain:

    They should probably call it something else, its no longer a Vette in anything.

    And that is a good thing. Decades of long brake pedal travel, poor throttle initial tip in, more motor than suspension, rain and winter phobia, dodgy steering and creaking body parts all had to go. GM will never admit it but they really were building  a more reliable TVR.

    the Ferrari Superfast has NA 787hp. The C8 will surprise you.


    Re: Corvette C7

    JimFlat6:
    Carlos from Spain:

    They should probably call it something else, its no longer a Vette in anything.

    And that is a good thing. Decades of long brake pedal travel, poor throttle initial tip in, more motor than suspension, rain and winter phobia, dodgy steering and creaking body parts all had to go. GM will never admit it but they really were building  a more reliable TVR.

    the Ferrari Superfast has NA 787hp. The C8 will surprise you.

    The 812 Superfast has a V12 6.5 l engine.

    I can see a n/a V8 with 600 hp but 700 hp? Audi's V10 5.2 l engine is at it's power limit at 650 hp according to various sources. This engine has been overhauled and newly designed a couple of times, it is a piece of art of engine engineering. Not sure how GM wants to get 700 hp out of a 5.5 l V8. Reliable 700 hp and even more important: Meeting all emissions and noise regulations standards worldwide.

    I do not say it is not possible but I have to see it to believe it. If true, this would certainly throw a different (more positive) light on GM.


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    Re: Corvette C7

    The new engine is internally designated as the LT5, dohc and its displacement is 6.2 liters. We will have to wait to find out the exact magic output number and how they got it.


    Re: Corvette C7

    JimFlat6:

    The new engine is internally designated as the LT5, dohc and its displacement is 6.2 liters. We will have to wait to find out the exact magic output number and how they got it.

    Most (preliminary) information on the internet suggests that the LT5 will be bi-turbo charged V8. The power figure of 700 hp seems to be correct but no n/a engine (most sources). This makes much more sense considering new and more strict emissions standards in the EU and worldwide.

    it is believed that the LT5 will use a form of force induction, most likely high-pressure twin turbo-charging.

    Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-engines/lt5/#ixzz4mqnDzBHF

    They updated their rumors...supercharged.

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/05/lt5-rpo-code-revealed-in-gm-system-divulges-new-details-on-c7-corvette-zr1/


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    Re: Corvette C7

    The internal company codes for the LT5 for the C8 do not include the standard GM acronyms for turbos or a supercharger. Reference in the links above confusingly mention a C7 LT5 model for MY 2018.  The C8 is not a MY2018 model. So who knows. Whatever, the C8 will brake better, handle better and actually have traction.


    Re: Corvette C7

    JimFlat6:

    The internal company codes for the LT5 for the C8 do not include the standard GM acronyms for turbos or a supercharger. Reference in the links above confusingly mention a C7 LT5 model for MY 2018.  The C8 is not a MY2018 model. So who knows. Whatever, the C8 will brake better, handle better and actually have traction.

    I was just referring to the LT5 engine but indeed, this is going to be interesting. 


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    Re: Corvette C7

    No matter how much hp, the 2020 C8 without awd might be as quick to 100 kph as this years Audi TT RS. smiley

     


    Re: Corvette C7

    WOW......Thank youSmiley


    Re: Corvette C7

    RC:

    The 812 Superfast has a V12 6.5 l engine.

    I can see a n/a V8 with 600 hp but 700 hp? Audi's V10 5.2 l engine is at it's power limit at 650 hp according to various sources. This engine has been overhauled and newly designed a couple of times, it is a piece of art of engine engineering. Not sure how GM wants to get 700 hp out of a 5.5 l V8. Reliable 700 hp and even more important: Meeting all emissions and noise regulations standards worldwide.

    I do not say it is not possible but I have to see it to believe it. If true, this would certainly throw a different (more positive) light on GM.

    http://www.enginelabs.com/engine-tech/dyno-testing/project-escalation-a-700-horsepower-pump-gas-ls-build-with-ffre/


    Re: Corvette C7

    FYI - this is the  Z06's Cup 2 ZP "Streettyre" from the Sportauto Supertest...smiley

    Blueflame

    IMG_1104.JPG


    Re: Corvette C7

    Jim, you want to hazard a guess on price for the C8? Certainly over $100,000.


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