Feb 21, 2019 6:49:22 PM
- DaveGordon
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Feb 21, 2019 6:49:22 PM
crayphile:the-missile:I would get a R anyday over a touring. the R can have Single Mass Fly Wheel and the car is full of exotic material. The touring is indeed nothing less than castrated GT3, pointless.The Touring is no substitute for a 911R but I would not go that far, mon amis. I have a number of knowledgeable petrolhead acquaintances who can't see the fuss over the R and swear that the 4L engine in the Touring is much more of a lure.
I didn't want to make the 911 R look bad, I was just talking from a monetary point of view. The GT3 Touring makes more sense as a daily driver or even weekend fun car, the 911 R is more of an investment. Personally, I couldn't care less because I would drive the hell out of both but if I had to pay a harsh premium for the 911 R, I'm not sure I would take it that lightly then with a possible value drop because of the miles I put on it.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
Any updates on when the Speedster will be available? Rumor has it launching at the NY AutoShow next month. I'm also hearing European Dealers have received their allocations.
2016 Porsche 991 Carrera GTS Black with AeroKit Cup Package, 2017 Porsche Cayenne Platinum Purpurite Metallic, New York
Mar 20, 2019 5:44:46 PM
Not sure if this image has been posted before, it seems to show the end product.
Presentation at the upcoming NY Auto Show.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (May 2019), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
blueflame:Looks to me like the old pic of the 2. study in b/w.
I still don‘t believe that the special rear mirrors and the middle fuel cap will come in the real car.
Blueflame
You're right, looks the same.
NY Auto Show is 100% though...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (May 2019), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
blueflame:I still don‘t believe that the special rear mirrors and the middle fuel cap will come in the real car.
Blueflame
Isn't that confirmed for the ''Heritage" option?
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Thanks RC. I have an invite to Porsche Club Event on Friday morning 4/19 before the NYC auto show opens so should have opportunity to get a few good pictures to share.
2016 Porsche 991 Carrera GTS Black with AeroKit Cup Package, 2017 Porsche Cayenne Platinum Purpurite Metallic, New York
Is it just me or does it seem odd that they are bringing out new 991.2 models whilst having the 992 also available? Is there a precedent for Porsche doing this before? I know in the past that Turbos or GTS from the prior generation are still available when the new Carrera's are released but to bring out a new variant despite it being a special edition seems unusual to me.
Apr 11, 2019 7:48:41 PM
NM:Is it just me or does it seem odd that they are bringing out new 991.2 models whilst having the 992 also available? Is there a precedent for Porsche doing this before? I know in the past that Turbos or GTS from the prior generation are still available when the new Carrera's are released but to bring out a new variant despite it being a special edition seems unusual to me.
997 RS4.0L was produced at the same time than 991
GT Lover, Porsche fan
991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)
Cayenne GTS 2014
Apr 12, 2019 7:06:50 AM
the-missile:NM:Is it just me or does it seem odd that they are bringing out new 991.2 models whilst having the 992 also available? Is there a precedent for Porsche doing this before? I know in the past that Turbos or GTS from the prior generation are still available when the new Carrera's are released but to bring out a new variant despite it being a special edition seems unusual to me.
997 RS4.0L was produced at the same time than 991
But here they are stretching it a bit further , no ? GT3 RS , speedster stil will be produced about one year into the 992
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
Apr 12, 2019 8:05:33 AM
Apr 17, 2019 7:34:22 AM
2019 Porsche 911 Speedster celebrates North American premiere in New York
Press Release: https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressResources.nsf/Content?ReadForm&languageversionid=960893
Limited to 1,948 units worldwide, the 911 Speedster honors 70 years of Porsche sports
Atlanta. Last year, Porsche celebrated its 70th anniversary of building sports cars by showing two 911 Speedster Concept vehicles to the public. Now, the production version is celebrating its North American debut in New York. Powered by a naturally-aspirated 4.0 liter flat-six engine capable of up to 9,000 rpm that is also used in the current 911 GT3 and 911 GT3 RS models, the 2019 911 Speedster develops 502 horsepower and 346 lb-ft of torque, accompanied by a highly emotional, racing inspired soundtrack.
For the 911 Speedster, this race-bred powerplant has been enhanced with individual throttle bodies that make the throttle response even sharper, just like in the 911 GT3 R race car. To deliver a particularly engaging driving experience highly desired by purists, the 911 Speedster is available exclusively with a GT Sport six-speed manual transmission. 0 to 60 miles per hour happens in just 3.8 seconds, and the top track speed is 192 miles per hour. The 2019 911 Speedster is planned to be available for order on May 7, 2019 and is expected to reach U.S. dealers in late 2019
The 2019 911 Speedster is the first such model developed by the Porsche Motorsport department, but it is still immediately recognizable as a Speedster. The low-cut front windshield and side windows as well as the manually operated lightweight fabric top are characteristic for a Speedster model and make the car stand out immediately. The two streamliners atop the rear decklid made from carbon fiber are another design highlight rooted in the model’s history.
The interior of the 911 Speedster is characterized by a focus on the essentials of driving. Lightweight door panels with storage nets and door pulls emphasize the dedication to weight reduction. The standard black leather interior can be supplemented with red stitching for the dashboard and the “Speedster” designation in the headrests. With this option, the door pulls are also fitted in red, and the GT Sport steering wheel is decorated with a red 12 o’clock center marker. The interior trim, which spreads to the gear shift knob as well as the door sill guards with “Speedster” model designation, is carbon fiber.
Underscoring its purist focus, extensive measures of lightweight construction help keep the weight of the new 911 Speedster down. The front luggage compartment lid, front fenders and rear decklid are all made from carbon fiber composite material, while the front and rear fasciae consist of lightweight polyurethane. Standard Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB) save about 50 percent from the system weight with grey cast iron rotors. The fabric top does without any automated operation, save for the electrically-operated latch to lock and unlock it. Air conditioning is omitted as standard in the interest of weight savings, but can be added as a no-cost option if the customer desires. Finally, the six-speed manual transmission saves about 9 pounds compared to the seven-speed manual transmission in other 911 Carrera models, and almost 40 pounds compared to a PDK dual clutch unit. With this clear focus on lightweight construction, the 2019 911 Speedster weighs just 3,230 pounds.
The 2019 911 Speedster uses a chassis derived from the 911 GT3 models with a specifically-calibrated rear axle steering system and dynamic engine mounts to deliver a maximum amount of precision, stability and driving pleasure. 20-inch center lock wheels painted in Satin Black are shod with Ultra High Performance (UHP) tires to offer high levels of grip, while standard PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake) delivers very powerful and consistent braking performance.
The history of Porsche Speedster models began in the United States.Speedster variants of sports car models, which combine open-top driving pleasure with incredibly distinctive driving dynamics, have been part of the Porsche company history since 1952. The forefather of Porsche Speedster models, the 356 1500 America Roadster, had an aluminum body manufactured entirely by hand. It weighed about 130 pounds (60 kilograms) less than the 356 Coupe and its top track speed of 108 miles per hour (175 km/h) with its 70-hp four-cylinder flat engine was impressive at the time. Featuring slot-in curtain windows for the doors, a folding top and lightweight bucket seats, this car developed exclusively for the US market was built just 16 times and already embodied several key elements of the speedster design.
By 2010, eight different production and special models bearing the “Speedster” name had been created. The 356 A 1500 GS Carrera GT Speedster represented a highlight in 1957, and the first 911 Speedster followed in 1988. Limited to just 356 units worldwide, the 911 Speedster of the 997 generation built in 2010 was the latest model to be fitted with the famous designation.
Exclusively for owners, Porsche Design has created a 911 Speedster Chronograph timepiece. The high-performance Flyback-Chronograph with Werk 01.200 movement developed in-house features Speedster specific design elements such as a carbon fiber dial, and a rotor modeled after the Speedster center lock wheel in both design and color. Genuine Porsche interior leather and thread are also used for the perforated black leather strap with red stitching.
Apr 17, 2019 9:45:22 AM
Individual throttle bodies for first time since 1973
Cant wait to have it on next 992 GT3
18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Grant:Individual throttle bodies for first time since 1973
Cant wait to have it on next 992 GT3
Why offer it on the most cruiser-GT3 variant instead of on a Clubsport/RS?
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Kobalt:Porker:Why offer it on the most cruiser-GT3 variant instead of on a Clubsport/RS?
And "only" 502Hp?
I assume the gains got lost with the particulate filter?
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Porker:Kobalt:Porker:Why offer it on the most cruiser-GT3 variant instead of on a Clubsport/RS?
And "only" 502Hp?
I assume the gains got lost with the particulate filter?
That was my thinking too. I wonder if the 502hp is only 2hp more (compared to PS) or a bit more (Brake Horsepower)?? Nice that torque is up.
18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi