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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    SciFrog:
    Actually in my book the Macan IS the only model that makes sense in Porsche lineups at the current prices especially when you look at the higher segments of each model, and the GT cars, which comes with big compromises.

    I have to agree with you.

    I'm driving a 4 cylinder base Macan loaner now, with sport button pushed, it feels as fast as my Macan S.  More than adequate power for daily use.  I don't know how Porsche did it.

    Having said that, I will continue to buy Porsche GT cars as they keep value much better than any other sport cars.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    bluelines:
    SciFrog:
    Why would you get any car when you can get a GT4, in WHITE

    I am starting to question why Porsche should offer any other car than the Macan. The ultimate sports car SUV limousine  which renders all other models pointless.

    Smiley

    If I could borrow from an old Mercedes ad: 

    In a perfect world everyone would drive a Macan.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Acid green or black calipers on Panamera hybrid in Volcano grey exterior color? Thoughts? (acid green looks very obstrusive in configurator, but more toned down in the flesh of course)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Damn, seems that Panamera needs 22" wheels.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    I like the black calipers--acid green gives the car a Batmobile look.  


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    Wonderbar:

    I like the black calipers--acid green gives the car a Batmobile look.  

    agreed, +1 for black


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    Enmanuel:
    Wonderbar:

    I like the black calipers--acid green gives the car a Batmobile look.  

    agreed, +1 for black

    +2


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    +3

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    Delay for some diesel panameras, depending on what you have chosen (I have chosen PDCC-PTV Plus). This due to software problems regarding the combination of the massive tourque and the PDCC-PTV Plus system..... laugh

    First scheduled for december delivarance, now postponed to Mars built mail

    Look out for the leathal combination ! heartmail

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    The farmer:

    Delay for some diesel panameras, depending on what you have chosen (I have chosen PDCC-PTV Plus). This due to software problems regarding the combination of the massive tourque and the PDCC-PTV Plus system..... laugh

    First scheduled for december delivarance, now postponed to Mars built mail

    Look out for the leathal combination ! heartmail

     

    Wow, that's a minimum 300 day delivery time, and, if you miss the launch window, it can take much longer.


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    I know......mail

    Dont know if I should cancel and keep my PTS or just accept the fact that there might be problems with a knew launch. But if only software, why not let me have the car in December and then upgrade the software in March. Something is fishy here.....yes


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    That's unfortunate The Farmer! Quite massive to postpone from december to march angel

    Have you considered to remove the PDCC-PTV from your specification? Maybe not necessary on a daily driver if you have your performance cars for the more involved driving? Heard btw that Panoramic roof should be possible to get already in december/january if you're interested in that option. Not directly a performance option... but could be worth considering if you like the pano feature.


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    Thanks guys! Agree that the black calipers looks much better and great that I'm not the only one with this opinion indecision

    I think in general Porsche should offer more flexibility for the color of the brake calipers since certain combinations with exterior color really clash. At least should it be available on the top models.


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    Totally agree. I do not understand why at Porsche you cannot chose the color of the brake calipers. They are so keen on selling you extra's why not a option of different color?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    First leaked pictures of the Sport Tourismo.

    Looks like a boring station wagon. What happened to all those exciting lines of the concept car? Couldn't be more disappointed. Looks like an Audi station wagon. 

    STLeak.JPG


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Indeed they messed up.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    J.Seven:

    Indeed they messed up.

    It shows that building some lines a tiny bit different, the whole appearance is gone. Also - the wheels are much more inside the wheel arches as on the prototype. Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    The concept car looked much better because of the missing mirrors and door handles. (and maybe Brown isn't the best color)


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    is Porsche now ruled by a bunch of conservatists ?

    that thing looks horrible.....in fact looks worse than the model its based on.

    where is Porsche heading ? focus on sales is ruining the company from an enthusiast point of view.

    surely we have to rule out the tour de force models as these are still non plus ultra....but only for the very few.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    intouch1:

    is Porsche now ruled by a bunch of conservatists ?

    It is ruled by reasonable people. To develop new GT2 RS you need to sell a lot of Panamera`s Smiley 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Milanno:
    intouch1:

    is Porsche now ruled by a bunch of conservatists ?

    It is ruled by reasonable people. To develop new GT2 RS you need to sell a lot of Panamera`s Smiley 

    looking at it from that perspective actually makes me feel better smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Lars997:

    First leaked pictures of the Sport Tourismo.

    Looks like a boring station wagon. What happened to all those exciting lines of the concept car? Couldn't be more disappointed. Looks like an Audi station wagon. 

    STLeak.JPG

    This looks just like another Photoshop job and not leaked pictures of the official version....
    It states Panamera Turbo on the boot lid and I would assume it would be Sport Turismo instead for this model.

    It is however most likely that the Panamera and Sport turismo will look the same, like for station wagons offered from other manufacturers
    where the back-end is the only part that looks different. Agree that the concept car front looked more interesting.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Milanno:
    intouch1:

    is Porsche now ruled by a bunch of conservatists ?

    It is ruled by reasonable people. To develop new GT2 RS you need to sell a lot of Panamera`s Smiley 

    Smiley Regarding that Panamera Sport Turismo leak or photoshop or whatever: The real thing will look very similar, so I wouldn't be sure this is a photoshop job. Of course the final product won't look like the study, this is impossible for various reasons. 

    "Funny": The Sport Turismo could be the first serial production station wagon to break the 200k EUR barrier. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    It is a leak - not a PS. Trust me 

    200k€ for a station wagon - IMO no problem, there will be buyers waiting for this car. There are people buying a Bentayga for over 300k, too. And how about the Ferrari FF or Lusso? 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    It may just be me but are Porsche fast becoming the car maker with the worst selection of wheel designs? Every option they are coming out with seem to be over styled multi spoked designs yes 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    ISUK:

    It may just be me but are Porsche fast becoming the car maker with the worst selection of wheel designs? Every option they are coming out with seem to be over styled multi spoked designs yes 

    Yes, wheel design isn't their forte and this is valid for all model ranges. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    ISUK:

    It may just be me but are Porsche fast becoming the car maker with the worst selection of wheel designs? Every option they are coming out with seem to be over styled multi spoked designs yes 

    The Carrera Classic wheels are a great design for the 991 IMO. They really seem to fill out the tire/wheel well and look great at low speeds. Unfortunately you can't get them on the high-end cars because they are all center-lock.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    991 GT3 and 991 GT3 RS wheels are the only Porsche wheels that I really like. 

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    RC:
    ISUK:

    It may just be me but are Porsche fast becoming the car maker with the worst selection of wheel designs? Every option they are coming out with seem to be over styled multi spoked designs yes 

    Yes, wheel design isn't their forte and this is valid for all model ranges. 

    Well, I like it very much and think those wheels suit very well the Pan. But agree with the poster who said this brown color isn´t the best for this car.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Lars997:

    First leaked pictures of the Sport Tourismo.

    Looks like a boring station wagon. What happened to all those exciting lines of the concept car? Couldn't be more disappointed. Looks like an Audi station wagon. 

    STLeak.JPG

    So, what are they officially calling this, the Porsche Macanamera?


     
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