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    997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Hi
    I have driving an M3 for a number of years and will be picking up a 997s in July . Are there any good tips for the new 911 driver such as:

    1. Car is has wider rear wheel archs - can I ignore this or is a consious effort to avoid hitting things ie reversing into garage

    2. Wheels - when parking what are the tips to avoid hitting the alloys

    3. Warming up the engine - on the M3 I go gently until the oil is at normal operating temp

    I realise some of these will become second nature over time - I just want to get "best advice" during the early stages

    I am sure there are many other examples out there.

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Welcome to the 911 community.
    A lot of fun is lying ahead of you.
    A few hints, I'm sure I forgot some and I apologize if some of them sound like "kiddy talk" to 911 pros, I'm just trying to help:

    1. oil temperature: after the oil temp gauge reads 90*C, you're free to go as hard as you want
    2. the steering on the 997 Carrera S is "razor sharp", be careful when you're steering-in at high speeds in sharp twists and turns. A bit too much too fast...you get my point.
    3. expect heavy and SUDDEN oversteer, especially when turning PSM off and/or turning chrono sport to the "sport" setting. Think again about point 2 when you try to stabilize the oversteer.
    4. be careful in the rain and/or when the streets are wet. The traction seems to be fine but sudden oversteer or loosing grip instantly can be dangerous.
    5. the rear engine is "pushing" from behind, always keep this in mind when driving fast, especially through twists and turns. This is a wonderful setup in experienced hands but it can be dangerous too, this is not the typical rear wheel drive car like the BMW M3, it is competely different. Caution!
    6. DO NOT drive over boardwalks, etc. with your 19'' wheels. This is actually valid for ALL high speed tires, they can be damaged invisibly, resulting in a blown tire later on. Treat your tires with respect, they are the ONLY connection between the car and the street.
    7. never play around with tire pressures, stay with Porsche recommended pressures, they are the MINIMUM pressures for safe driving. Porsche is very "anal" about tires and tire pressures, they really do a very thorough and extensive testing. Don't throw this away by listening to the wrong people. Track "hot shots" always recommend to lower the pressure but this is WRONG for street use. Also check the tire pressure as often as possible. Stay with Porsche recommended tires with the N designation. DO NOT buy the same tire size/tire brand without the N, you get a completely different tire.
    8. always keep an eye on the oil level, especially over the first 5000 km. Stick with the Mobil 1 oil recommended by Porsche, it is a very good oil and works perfect. Don't experiment with other high performance oils, you don't gain anything extra.
    9. use the highest fuel quality available in your area, don't use so called real "race fuel" because this usually lacks some important engine additives for cleaning, etc.
    10. brake-in should be done properly, from my experience it is not recommended to brake-in a 911 in city traffic, you need higher rev figures. Try to stay below 4500-5000 rpm most of the time at the begining, avoid full throttle situations and treat the gearbox and clutch with respect too at the beginning. Also don't forget about the new tires, for the first aprox. 1000 km, they don't have their full grip "capability" and may feel different too.
    11. be careful with automatic car wash installations, the rear of the 997 Carrera S is very wide, most installations have problems with it. If you're unlucky, you may scratch your rear wheels too, be careful.
    12. the clutch feels different on the 911, you may stall the engine in the beginning. No real problem, you get used to it, just be careful not to rev over 2500 rpm when starting from standstill (unless you WANT a really fast start), it really isn't good for the clutch. Experienced 911 drivers manage to drive off from standstill at around 1000 rpm, it is fine if you manage to do it at 1500 rpm.

    If somebody else has more hints...I may have forgotten some.

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    I WOULD THINK as one of the more important through cornering, to ENDER slow exit FAST, though i know its typical...
    Keep in mind, do not leave the gas pedal when cornering at high speed. The engine is way back and when leaving the gas pedal, the car reacts as if you are breaking,and this might result in oversteer......


    The best advice would be to learn your car, slowly and adapt your self to the car and vice versa...Do not push the car if you dont feel confident...

    The 911 has the ability to "hide" its actual speed but in reality it achieves high speeds, easily,thus making it dangerous to the hands of the careless driver

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Just like has been said. The M3 is easy to drive. The 911 can bite you. I'm talking about goofing around with the car trying to approach it's limits.

    Sign up with local Porsche club and do a driver's ed class. learn the *safe* way to mess with the car (any performance car): on a track with an instructor.

    HAVE FUN!!!

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Thanks RC - this sounds like excellent advice.

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Hey guys, thanks for the tips, I'm new to 911 rear-engine driving and have found it handles completely different from front-engined vehicles(former BMW owner). I'm planning to do a 2-3 day driving course sometime soon to get more comfortable. Don't trust myself with heavy cornering yet, tend to feel alot of understeer as the car pushes through the corner. For now, straight line acceleration and braking are about all I feel comfortable with.

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Great Tips RC, thanks also!

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    I changed from an M3 to my 997S and the step is very similar. Both cars are very easy to drive once you get used to them at the limit. The best place to do that is the track if you get a chance. The 997 will feel strange at first because the front end never feels planted but after a little playing around you will get used to the lightness.

    As for the rear wheel arches or wheels it was far easier to curb the M3 wheels than it is on a 997 so just do what I do and park a mile away from anything

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Quote:
    dambox said:Are there any good tips for the new 911 driver?


    For new owners in North America I strongly recommend: the Porsche Driving Experience. I'm also making the transition from a BMW M3, and though I have a fair amount of racing experience -- as well as driver training at Bondurant -- I plan on taking the Masters course so that I can spend some time learning the 997S's limits on the racetrack in someone else's car...

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Yo yo yo - this video could be a good example of how
    a 911 can bite. right hurr


    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    Quote:
    TopherV said:
    Yo yo yo - this video could be a good example of how
    a 911 can bite. right hurr





    Thanks TopherV, I keep doing that on GT4!! guess that says something about GT4 as a driving simulator. ( or my driving )

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

    I am another transitioning driver from an 02 M3 to a 997s and I must say that after 1100 miles of weekend driving around San Francisco's twisties I am very pleased and at the same time hungry for more... I have taken the advice of many and enrolled in the PDE course to see how much the 997 can "bite"...

    p.s. Cool heads up RC

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

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    tooner said:
    I am another transitioning driver from an 02 M3 to a 997s and I must say that after 1100 miles of weekend driving around San Francisco's twisties I am very pleased and at the same time hungry for more... I have taken the advice of many and enrolled in the PDE course to see how much the 997 can "bite"...

    p.s. Cool heads up RC



    how do you find the performance? 997S contra M3? i guess your 997S is not through break-in yet so might be hard to compare.

    Re: 997 Driving Tips for those new to 911 driving

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    bluelines said:
    Quote:
    tooner said:

    how do you find the performance? 997S contra M3? i guess your 997S is not through break-in yet so might be hard to compare.




    Please do not get me wrong as I am falling in love with the 997 but nevertheless I have been through very high speeds on my M3... Once on the I-5 up to 168 miles per hour up against a corvette and had a good 1 to 2 car separation before we both slowed down for oncoming traffic. Also a summer drive to mammoth lakes around very challenging turns at certain speeds.

    Overall my M3 has performed as advertised.

    As for the 997s Cab, yes I am still in the break in period and as much I want to try it out I respect the advice of my friend who has been a long time Porsche purist and track driver, he says take it slow and learn the cars behavior around turns first the speed on straight a ways is really just showing off what everyone knows it has... and I guess he has a point because I really enjoyed the m3 the most, during every exit of a nice hard turn.

    Bottom line for me... M3 because I have gone faster and harder on it without ever questioning its ability to stay stuck on the ground... the 997 is a different animal, which has to be tamed and then ridden as hard as possible.... I have a few hundred miles to go and a two-day PDE after which I will be on pacific coast highway trying out the car.

     
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