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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    996FourEss:

    hate the shut line above the grill, sorry

    I do not like that either, really disturbing


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Josef:
    996FourEss:

    hate the shut line above the grill, sorry

    I do not like that either, really disturbing

    Now it's all I can see when I look at the car. And it would've been so easy for them to hide it. 


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    I have no issues with it? 🤔


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    @RC

    C63s looks great, congrats


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    Loving the new grill. I dont like the afterthought screen though. Nice daily driver beast.


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Josef:
    996FourEss:

    hate the shut line above the grill, sorry

    I do not like that either, really disturbing

    The most egregious lines are on the S-Class Coupé.   The joinline of the plastic fascia to the fender is atrocious and unacceptable on a vehicle in its price range.

     

     

     


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Lord_Driftalot:

    @RC

    C63s looks great, congrats

    Thanks but it is going to be mainly my wife's car...only in winter time, she is going to drive my E63 S.

     


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    rhino:

     

    those gloves Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Can't save I've ever found myself needing gloves to hold a steering wheel... Kinda weird that people wear "driving" gloves.


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    NO its not weird, I wear them sometimes, either in a  very warm weather, or very cold one.


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    That's why they invented heated steering wheel...


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    the-missile:
    rhino:

     

    those gloves Smiley Smiley

    In an E-class Smiley


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    SciFrog:

    That's why they invented heated steering wheel...

    The driving gloves serve two purposes (in my R8 actually three):

    1. They absorb sweat (and yes, driving "dynamically", especially in summer time, causes sweaty hands)

    2. They help to keep a tight grip, especially when hands get sweaty

    3. They protect the steering wheel (in the case of my R8...suede) from grease, sweat and similar stuff

    There are various designs but driving with racing gloves on public roads looks much more ridiculous than these driving gloves. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    I think I speak for 99% of the people when saying that driving gloves -any type of driving gloves- look utterly ridiculous on the public road when driving anything but this:

    0001_bentley.jpg


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Porker:

    I think I speak for 99% of the people when saying that driving gloves -any type of driving gloves- look utterly ridiculous on the public road when driving anything but this:

    0001_bentley.jpg

    So how do you deal with sweaty hands and suede steering wheels? Racing gloves? They look even more ridiculous. 

    In summer time, sweaty hands can even pose a danger while driving. A buddy of mine once lost control and ended up hitting a curb. Not pretty...damaged rim and tire, a 3k adventure. Actually, I may be mistaken but in our driving group, especially during summers, almost everyone is wearing driving gloves. I will try to take a hands photo and post it here... Smiley 

    Most gloves are dark colors though, mostly black or dark browns. A Ferrari guy has some beautiful light brown gloves I always wanted but he got them as a gift from his father a couple of years ago and he doesn't know where he bought them (somewhere in Spain...). I usually wear the "half" gloves only because of the suede steering wheel but in summer, I switch to the Porsche driving gloves I got many years ago. They are dark brown and the button is a Porsche crest, haven't seen them around anymore but they serve a purpose. For the track I still have my old gloves but they look ridiculous on a public road.

    What is even more funny: Most of the guys in my driving group are wearing driving...shoes. Never bothered, I even drive with my boots. Smiley Some of them look pretty cool and cost half a fortune (I think a guy got himself a pair for over 1000 EUR). When we get out of the cars and go to a restaurant or a beer garden and I see some of us with these driving shoes, I have to giggle. Some of them are in very flashy colors, even with some ads on them, they kind of attract more attention than the cars. Smiley Smiley

     

     


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    If you go back to the sports cars of the 50's and 60's, gloves definitely improved your grip on the skinny steering wheel rims of the day......


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    964C2:

    If you go back to the sports cars of the 50's and 60's, gloves definitely improved your grip on the skinny steering wheel rims of the day......

    It improves the grip nowadays as well but it depends on how sweaty your hands are (I never sweat in my hands but surprisingly, when I drive my cars... Smiley) and how the material of the steering wheel is. That buddy I mentioned who hit a curb because he had sweaty hands had a carbon steering wheel (only upper and lower part but it was enough...), one reason I never spec my cars with this stuff because I fear to share his fate. 

    I never use driving gloves with Alcantara steering wheels, also a reason I love these steering wheels. The only option for my R8 was a suede steering wheel, only now the Alcantara version came available through Audi Performance Parts but I won't switch again. The suede steering wheel is extremely sensitive to any kind of liquids and fats and/or hand cremes, a dealer's car suede steering wheel looked like crap only after a couple of months, horrible. This thing costs 2k with install, so... 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    RC:
    Porker:

    I think I speak for 99% of the people when saying that driving gloves -any type of driving gloves- look utterly ridiculous on the public road when driving anything but this:

    0001_bentley.jpg

    So how do you deal with sweaty hands and suede steering wheels? Racing gloves? They look even more ridiculous. 

    In summer time, sweaty hands can even pose a danger while driving. A buddy of mine once lost control and ended up hitting a curb. Not pretty...damaged rim and tire, a 3k adventure. Actually, I may be mistaken but in our driving group, especially during summers, almost everyone is wearing driving gloves. I will try to take a hands photo and post it here... Smiley 

    Most gloves are dark colors though, mostly black or dark browns. A Ferrari guy has some beautiful light brown gloves I always wanted but he got them as a gift from his father a couple of years ago and he doesn't know where he bought them (somewhere in Spain...). I usually wear the "half" gloves only because of the suede steering wheel but in summer, I switch to the Porsche driving gloves I got many years ago. They are dark brown and the button is a Porsche crest, haven't seen them around anymore but they serve a purpose. For the track I still have my old gloves but they look ridiculous on a public road.

    What is even more funny: Most of the guys in my driving group are wearing driving...shoes. Never bothered, I even drive with my boots. Smiley Some of them look pretty cool and cost half a fortune (I think a guy got himself a pair for over 1000 EUR). When we get out of the cars and go to a restaurant or a beer garden and I see some of us with these driving shoes, I have to giggle. Some of them are in very flashy colors, even with some ads on them, they kind of attract more attention than the cars. Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    I honestly never feel the need to wear driving gloves on the public road, sweaty hands or not... On a race track, ok I can understand, but on the road... To each his own!


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Christian, if we ever meet remind me not to shake your hand.indecision

    Seriously, why would anyone have sweaty hands driving on public roads?yes


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    nberry:

    Christian, if we ever meet remind me not to shake your hand.indecision

    Nick, I do not have sweaty palms/hands. Only when I drive in warmer environments. Probably due to the contact between the steering wheel material (usually plastic or leather) and skin.

    Seriously, why would anyone have sweaty hands driving on public roads?yes

    Well...I don't know, maybe when driving 330 kph on the Autobahn? Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    RC: Actually, I may be mistaken but in our driving group, especially during summers, almost everyone is wearing driving gloves. I will try to take a hands photo and post it here... Smiley 
     

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    Do the friends have long hair? and possibly some nail polish? Smileyhigh heels is not racing shoes, RC Smiley


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    the-missile:
    RC: Actually, I may be mistaken but in our driving group, especially during summers, almost everyone is wearing driving gloves. I will try to take a hands photo and post it here... Smiley 
     

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    Do the friends have long hair? and possibly some nail polish? Smileyhigh heels is not racing shoes, RC Smiley

    No, no women allowed...oops...we always forget to invite them. Smiley Smiley

    There was a former (female) instructor driving with us for a while but she disappeared without a trace. Smiley One guy suspects that she took a (bad) joke too seriously, another one says she got married (not sure what this got to do with not driving with us anymore), fact is...no women, sad. My wife was with us once and her comment afterwards was: "Where is the next shopping center" and "boring". Smiley Also she felt a bit sick after driving through some passes, so... Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    there you go.....driving shoes....indecision

    but in fact driving shoes make sense with the rolled heel. not that I wear or wore any except for my karting days when they were mandatory. I ruined the heels on 2 pairs of vans during the 8800 kms...

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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    These are actually very nice shoes... Smiley

    I was talking about shoes like this one, you cannot imagine how ridiculous it looks watching a grown man in his 40s walking into a beer garden full of people in these shoes. Smiley Smiley

    ger_pl_Sparco-FORMULA-RB-8-Rot-Racing-Schuhe-mit-FIA-homologation-11358_2.jpg


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    RC:

     

    I was talking about shoes like this one, you cannot imagine how ridiculous it looks watching a grown man in his 40s walking into a beer garden full of people in these shoes. Smiley Smiley

     

    yes I know you were referring to sparco and the like....

    they are good and comfy. the rolled heel is very purposeful and you get a feel for the pedals. but I agree they look silly in a way. but for driving they are good.

    I prefer my vans though....just as sticky as they are skate shoes and more hip....in a way at least Smiley


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    Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you.

    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    SciFrog:

    Interior doesn’t look very good either...

    I got sweaty hands once, in my just picked up Carrera GT, when a semi with a trailer blew through the Red light 5 ft from my front end after I slammed on the brakes.

    Car behind me, a Prius driver thanks God, did not yet attempt to move the foot from the brake pedal to gas.


    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    On the subject of skate shoes: https://www.etnies.com/eu/marana/ (nice collaboration)


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    absent:
     

    Car behind me, a Prius driver thanks God, did not yet attempt to move the foot from the brake pedal to gas.

    Never thought I'd say this but for once they are good for something Smiley


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    Re: 2018 E63 from AMG is back

    Carlos from Spain:
    absent:
     

    Car behind me, a Prius driver thanks God, did not yet attempt to move the foot from the brake pedal to gas.

    Never thought I'd say this but for once they are good for something Smiley

    Smiley


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