Crown

Board: Porsche - Carrera GT / 918 Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Re: 918

    SciFrog:

    Educated guess is $40k for the 4 year major service...

     

    Will be less than that. not gonna be even closer to 40k

    918 services are actually surprisingly cheap.

    1st year is like doubled that of a 911 Turbo. in my case it's like 1700 CAD

    2nd year a bit more involved, think the bill was like 4k CAD

    3rd year it has more stuff to do, that one was like 9k CAD if I remember correctly.

    4th year is an unknown. But the next one will go back to the 1st year oil change only as most of the stuff are changed, 

    The car is taken apart quite liberally as the foreman wants to inspect everything to do a warranty claim before the it is up. So part of the labour of getting panels on and off will be part of warranty claim.

    The panels are actually quite easily taken off, a few bits here and there. And the car is designed to be worked on with them off.


    --

     

     


    Re: 918

    Targa Tim:

    good time to visit dealership and secretly sign in one of the panel

     

    yeah well you won't find it!Smiley


    --

     

     


    Re: 918

    When I was picking up my RS they had a CGT up for I believe 30,000 miles service. I asked the shop supervisor what the service would cost and he said around $25,000. Certainly out of my league. Thank God I didn't pull the trigger when I had a chance to buy one when they were first introduced. I had check book in hand and at the last minute walked away.enlightened


    --

    Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.


    Re: 918

    nberry:

    When I was picking up my RS they had a CGT up for I believe 30,000 miles service. I asked the shop supervisor what the service would cost and he said around $25,000. Certainly out of my league. Thank God I didn't pull the trigger when I had a chance to buy one when they were first introduced. I had check book in hand and at the last minute walked away.enlightened

    So back then, you didn't have a single issue with dinosaur tech (3 pedals) Smiley


    Re: 918

    Back then there was no PDK... and no ESP which was the main reason I didn’t buy the car either.


    Re: 918

    don't think I will ever pay so much for a car, too much pressure driving and parking it

     


    --

    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S
     


    Re: 918

    Targa Tim:

    don't think I will ever pay so much for a car, too much pressure driving and parking it

     

    Tim, as I got older and wiser I placed limits on how much to pay for a car. Too many other interests to enjoy and entertain myself with.Smiley


    --

     

    Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.

     


    Re: 918

    nberry:
    Targa Tim:

    don't think I will ever pay so much for a car, too much pressure driving and parking it

     

    Tim, as I got older and wiser I placed limits on how much to pay for a car. Too many other interests to enjoy and entertain myself with.Smiley


    --

     

    Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.

     

    Smiley


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 918

    I think that it largely depends on where in Felix Dennis [1] richness list [2] one is indecision

    • Comfortably poor: £50k-£199k in liquid assets; £1m-£2m in total assets
    • Comfortably off: £200k-£499k in liquid assets; £3m-£4m in total assets
    • Comfortably wealthy: £500k-£999k in liquid assets; £5m-£15m in total assets
    • Lesser rich: £1m-£5m in liquid assets; £16m-£39m in total assets
    • Comfortably rich: £6m-£15m in liquid assets; £40m-£74m in total assets
    • Rich: £16m-£35m in liquid assets; £75m-£99m in total assets
    • Seriously rich: £36m-£49m in liquid assets; £100m-£199m in total assets
    • Truly rich: £50m-£100m in liquid assets; £200m-£399m in total assets
    • Filthy or super rich: Over £100m in liquid assets; over £1bn in total assets

    [1]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dennis
    [2]  https://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/13568/youre-not-really-rich-until-you-have-16m-of-liquid-assets/


    Re: 918

    Heh, that’s a depressing list smiley

    A good friend of mine was the editor of a magazine at Dennis Publishing. Apparently Felix was quite the character.. Everybody knew about it when he visited the office!


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: 918

    nberry:
    Targa Tim:

    don't think I will ever pay so much for a car, too much pressure driving and parking it

     

    Tim, as I got older and wiser I placed limits on how much to pay for a car. Too many other interests to enjoy and entertain myself with.Smiley


    --

     

    Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.

     

    Totally agree Nick.

    Especially now I learned that I'm not even considered to be rich Smiley


    --

    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S
     


    Re: 918

    DaveGordon:

    Heh, that’s a depressing list smiley

    +1 

     


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: 918

    I did not mean to cause any form of depression. But if so, here is something that will make you feel better: http://www.globalrichlist.com .   Now back to the topic wink


    Re: 918

    schmoell:

    ...Now back to the topic wink

    This is RL you know indecision


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: 918

    Or even RT angry


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1



    Re: 918

    Carlos from Spain:
    DaveGordon:

    Heh, that’s a depressing list smiley

    +1 

     

    Smiley So I'm not even wealthy...bummer. Need to show this list to my neighbors, my employees, my friends and acquittances and the kids at my son's school. Just to make sure... Smiley


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 918

    RC:
    Carlos from Spain:
    DaveGordon:

    Heh, that’s a depressing list smiley

    +1 

     

    Smiley So I'm not even wealthy...bummer. Need to show this list to my neighbors, my employees, my friends and acquittances and the kids at my son's school. Just to make sure... Smiley

    Hell I'm barely not poor!  Smiley


    --

    Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region


    Re: 918

    While watching the video, I kept asking myself whether he could have driven the car as fast if he had MT. Both hands on the steering wheel firing through and out of the curves at incredible speeds. He was having a ball as was his passenger.


    --

    Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.


    Re: 918

    Mithras:
    RC:
    Carlos from Spain:
    DaveGordon:

    Heh, that’s a depressing list smiley

    +1 

     

    Smiley So I'm not even wealthy...bummer. Need to show this list to my neighbors, my employees, my friends and acquittances and the kids at my son's school. Just to make sure... Smiley

    Hell I'm barely not poor!  Smiley

    Congrats... Smiley Smiley

    Have you read the comments on that site? Wow. Smiley


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 918

    Time for another update!!!

    I was just informed my car is finally done, after more than 2 months.

    The bill, will surprised many of you.

    The factory spec for 4th year 918 service is 7k CAD$ for labour.

    I was charged another 6k in parts. 

    That's like 10k US for the 4th year major service.

    Now Porsche also paid for a bunch of warranty work and recalls, their part of the bill was over 40k CAD, actually closer to 50k. I guess it's their Christmas present to me. 


    --

     

     


    Re: 918

    No call ? 😇


    Re: 918

    How much has Porsche lost on the 918 ? How longer will they have to pay even for it ? 


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: 918

    Gnil:

    How much has Porsche lost on the 918 ? How longer will they have to pay even for it ? 

     

    Each and every single 918 were sold with a profit margin, Porsche didn't lose money when they sell them, if that's why you meant.

    Warranty for the car is coming up fro all the cars, cars are getting off warranty period from July this year. 

    My foreman and I were just clever in scheduling stuff, I put off the big recall until the very end just so the disassembly and reassembly labour will be billed to Porsche to for the warranty and recall items. Since the car is opened for doing those, I don't have to pay for opening the car in the first place.

     

     


    --

     

     


    Re: 918

    I am aware that when sold , Porsche made a margin. But with all the recalls , that margin must of been eaten away and probably the car now has cost them more then gained  , no ? 

     


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: 918

    Parts for the car are expensive, but the major outlay is actually the labour cost involved to work on the car, the car is designed to be disassembled in order to be worked on.

    Bare min would be a couple hours to take down the under trays and reinstall. Pieces are so big it's a 2 man job. Same with the engine cover. Add another hour or so for each extra panels.

    Mine is one fo the highest mileage ones, so it needed a bit more work, my rough estimate puts Porsche liable for around 140k CAD sunk into warranty and recalls, 2/3 of which is labour cost. That puts it what, around 100k US, from a selling price of a million. 10%, still less than their profit margin.

    But on top of the 918, I am still buying other cars from them, and they make money for each purchase also.

    So.

    They are still way ahead smiley

    Don't forget, a lot of the cars are being parked, wasn't driven much and the owners can't be bothered to go in for recalls and even warranty work. When the 4 years is up, those warranty items will become paid items. 

    There are also unquantifiable sales from the 918.

    The tech on the car is being passed down to their regular production cars--- just to list few: The hybrid system went into the Panamera Hybrid and Cayenne Hybrid, the seats went into every other GT car, the steering wheel also into basically every 991. How much of the sales for their regular range is due to the 918 stuff?

    The 918 made hybrids cool. Also forcing Ferrari and McLaren to do hybrid hypercars. It changes people's perspective of hybrids from the time when Prius is the only thing around.

     

     

    Dollar wise, yes, for me the 918 has the most from the manufacturer. But % wise, nothing  come close to my 1st gen Bangle 745i. I kept that car for 3 years, whole I loved that car, the electronic stuff keep failing and BMW ended up replacing the brain for 9k a pop 5 times. The electronic trunk also keep dying and they must of fixed it like 10 times, BMW easily paid 50% of the cost of the car in warranty work there. 


    --

     

     


    Re: 918

    The question is: How much are going to be repairs after the warranty period ends? This may not be important to people who barely drive the car but for others...like you? 😱

    Maybe time to sell the car and get something new? Like a Senna? 😂😛

     


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 918

    to own a 918 long term is the best investment as you get from them whatever is in the pipeline ! kiss


    Re: 918

    BjoernB:

    to own a 918 long term is the best investment as you get from them whatever is in the pipeline ! kiss

    even in Europe? looks like pointless in middle east as your best friend for whatever is in the pipeline is the dealer Smiley


    --

    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: 918

    the-missile:
    BjoernB:

    to own a 918 long term is the best investment as you get from them whatever is in the pipeline ! kiss

    even in Europe? looks like pointless in middle east as your best friend for whatever is in the pipeline is the dealer Smiley

    👍 Dealer or someone in the higher hierarchy at Porsche. Otherwise you're screwed. 😧


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 5/18/22 6:36 PM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    587698 1306
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020) 6/8/22 4:41 PM
    Topspeed
    225452 1180
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 7/2/22 8:22 PM
    JoeRockhead
    116636 1058
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 7/2/22 7:50 PM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    111290 408
    Porsche Sticky Porsche Taycan Turbo S - Short Review 1/3/22 7:55 AM
    Rossi
    91997 531
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Cayman GT4 RS (2021) 1/15/22 10:41 PM
    watt
    32032 1
    Porsche Cayman GT4 10/5/21 7:04 PM
    Topspeed
    515209 3587
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 9/28/21 3:25 AM
    WhoopsyM
    430592 3507
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 2/1/22 10:14 PM
    SSO.
    427429 3954
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 11/17/21 5:18 PM
    Rossi
    391242 3256
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 2/1/22 9:49 AM
    RCA
    374831 2655
    Porsche 992 GT3 6/28/22 3:43 PM
    Grant
    359696 3664
    Porsche OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 9/29/21 1:59 AM
    watt
    291945 1587
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 2/10/22 9:08 PM
    Topspeed
    139160 772
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 7/1/22 4:24 PM
    WhoopsyM
    138200 1411
    AMG AMG GT R 3/13/22 8:52 PM
    spudgun
    112062 834
    McLaren F1 7/10/21 7:43 AM
    BiTurbo
    111813 209
    Lambo Aventador and SV 5/20/22 5:24 PM
    Topspeed
    109434 710
    Others Tesla 2 the new thread 6/30/22 6:47 PM
    WhoopsyM
    95946 1716
    Porsche GT4RS 6/18/22 5:42 PM
    Grant
    87454 979
    Motor Sp. [2021] Formula 1 4/19/22 10:08 PM
    Leawood911
    76904 1590
    Others Bugatti Chiron 4/12/22 9:24 PM
    blueflame
    75798 520
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 6/12/22 5:09 PM
    watt
    71577 535
    BMW M BMW M2 Rumors 2/28/22 7:42 PM
    Topspeed
    62836 409
    Porsche Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour 7/2/22 7:22 PM
    blueflame
    55949 481
    Lambo Urus (SUV) 6/7/22 1:20 PM
    Topspeed
    54884 593
    Porsche Dave and Gnil @ Nürburgring Nordschleife 5/19/22 11:01 PM
    Grant
    54813 721
    Others Corvette C8 11/8/21 8:04 PM
    Topspeed
    50477 442
    Others Toyota Yaris GR 4/13/22 8:33 PM
    Grant
    27361 640
    Motor Sp. [2022] Formula 1 7/2/22 4:00 PM
    watt
    25994 972
    218 items found, displaying 1 to 30.