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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    All I know is that a couple of things will be reconsidered due to the latest corona crisis. Smiley

    Also, the 992.2 cars will very likely all have a mild hybrid of some sorts and I'm not sure Porsche can afford to use a n/a engine anymore in the facelift. Of course I could be wrong, there have been strategical changes before. I am not the CEO of Porsche and I do not work for them. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:

    All I know is that a couple of things will be reconsidered due to the latest corona crisis. Smiley

    Also, the 992.2 cars will very likely all have a mild hybrid of some sorts and I'm not sure Porsche can afford to use a n/a engine anymore in the facelift. Of course I could be wrong, there have been strategical changes before. I am not the CEO of Porsche and I do not work for them. Smiley

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    indecision


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    992 platform is designed to be able to accommodate hybrid system.

    They couldn't do it with the 991. 

    Don't have much details, but my guess would be to have a small battery inside the front trunk, a inline motor sandwiched between the gearbox and engine. Sort of like the Panamera hybrid setup, so the electric motor output can take advantage of the PDK gearbox too. 

    Another option for AWD models would be the front differential replaced by a electric motor driven separately, Porsche have plenty of expertise deploying such a system, they did it with the 918 and 919 already. 

    There isn't much room inside a 911 to stash a battery. Size-wise the 918 battery isn't that big, and with technology advances it will probably be smaller still for the same capacity, but there still isn't much room to put it outside of the front trunk. 


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    Guess Porsche sale -40% this year and 55% next year


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    Are the factories even building cars now?


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    bvineyards:

    Are the factories even building cars now?

    Volvo has reopened the truck factories .....

     


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:

    All I know is that a couple of things will be reconsidered due to the latest corona crisisSmiley

    Also, the 992.2 cars will very likely all have a mild hybrid of some sorts and I'm not sure Porsche can afford to use a n/a engine anymore in the facelift. Of course I could be wrong, there have been strategical changes before. I am not the CEO of Porsche and I do not work for them. Smiley

    and it could go in a good way for the petrol heads . Just spoke with a friend who works for a business supplying most car compagnies .

    He said with the drop of sales , car manufactures will not reach max fleet  Co2  + as no one can work , the EU might push further the next new emission standards . Meaning , petrol engines, as we know them ,  could go on a few more years ......


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    Gnil:
    RC:

    All I know is that a couple of things will be reconsidered due to the latest corona crisisSmiley

    Also, the 992.2 cars will very likely all have a mild hybrid of some sorts and I'm not sure Porsche can afford to use a n/a engine anymore in the facelift. Of course I could be wrong, there have been strategical changes before. I am not the CEO of Porsche and I do not work for them. Smiley

    and it could go in a good way for the petrol heads . Just spoke with a friend who works for a business supplying most car compagnies .

    He said with the drop of sales , car manufactures will not reach max fleet  Co2  + as no one can work , the EU might push further the next new emission standards . Meaning , petrol engines, as we know them ,  could go on a few more years ......

    If the EU politicians at Brussels still try to impose economically damaging stricter emission standards in this time of unprecedented crisis due to the coronavirus and not freeze the timetable they had, they should be lined up against a wall and shot imo.


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    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss


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    nberry:

    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss

    Are you kidding me? Worth the trade off? Tell that to those less fortunate than you that because of the lockdown lost their jobs or businesses, cannot pay rent or their mortgage, or don't know how they are going to feed their family in the future... I'm sure they are really enjoying the blue skies and greener pastures right now.


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    nberry:

    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss

    That's an easy thing for a lawyer in temperate San Diego to say.  Millions of newly unemployed around the world may see things differently.


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    (Sigh)  I was responding to your post about relaxing emission standards. Had nothing to do with people getting back to work.

    But if we're on the subject, getting people back to work too early would be counterproductive. The auto industry can return sooner because they can space their work and maintain social distancing. But restaurants, salons and other service industries? Unless they have employees with six foot arms, it would be stupid to return early. Imagine the consequences of a second wave. enlightened

    Finally, regarding the poor people not working, it's the government job to provide until they can return to work safely. That's why I pay taxes. 


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    nberry:

    (Sigh)  I was responding to your post about relaxing emission standards. Had nothing to do with people getting back to work.

    But if we're on the subject, getting people back to work too early would be counterproductive. The auto industry can return sooner because they can space their work and maintain social distancing. But restaurants, salons and other service industries? Unless they have employees with six foot arms, it would be stupid to return early. Imagine the consequences of a second wave. enlightened

    Finally, regarding the poor people not working, it's the government job to provide until they can return to work safely. That's why I pay taxes. 

     

    Nah, your taxes went to pay for $30k military toilets and $20k military hammers. 

     


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    Porker:
    RC:

    All I know is that a couple of things will be reconsidered due to the latest corona crisis. Smiley

    Also, the 992.2 cars will very likely all have a mild hybrid of some sorts and I'm not sure Porsche can afford to use a n/a engine anymore in the facelift. Of course I could be wrong, there have been strategical changes before. I am not the CEO of Porsche and I do not work for them. Smiley

    The important thing is that you could be!

    Smiley Yeah, right. Funny. 


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    nberry:

    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss

    Too much pot today? Smiley


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    GT3 / Touring testing at Monza.  Sounds good!

    https://www.motor1.com/news/414962/porsche-911-gt3-spy-video/


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:
    nberry:

    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss

    Too much pot today? Smiley

    Eat your vegetables. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    nberry:
    RC:
    nberry:

    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss

    Too much pot today? Smiley

    Eat your vegetables. Smiley

    I don't have any? Smiley Smiley

    Funny story: My mother is 85 and she asked me to do the shopping for her. She asked me to buy her a zucchini. So far, so good. Only problem is: I don't have a clue what a zucchini looks alike. Smiley Smiley I can identify basically most plants on this planet because I studied botanics but zucchini? No clue. Smiley Never ate one. Funny enough, I know how a zucchini flower looks alike. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:
    nberry:
    RC:
    nberry:

    Have you noticed that since the lock down air, water and nature have recovered? Beautiful blue skies, clean air, clear/cleaner water and greener pastures. It's worth the trade off.kiss

    Too much pot today? Smiley

    Eat your vegetables. Smiley

    I don't have any? Smiley Smiley

    Funny story: My mother is 85 and she asked me to do the shopping for her. She asked me to buy her a zucchini. So far, so good. Only problem is: I don't have a clue what a zucchini looks alike. Smiley Smiley I can identify basically most plants on this planet because I studied botanics but zucchini? No clue. Smiley Never ate one. Funny enough, I know how a zucchini flower looks alike. Smiley


    In my humble opinion, the zucchini has no right to exist on this planet. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Agreed. It looks like a cucumber, too confusing. Smiley Smiley


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    Otherwise known as courgette 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:

    Agreed. It looks like a cucumber, too confusing. Smiley Smiley

    And you spend time often at Largo di Garda ??? Smiley... so sad ... Smiley ... fettuccine con zucchini e gamberi ...


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    d997h:
    RC:

    Agreed. It looks like a cucumber, too confusing. Smiley Smiley

    And you spend time often at Largo di Garda ??? Smiley... so sad ... Smiley ... fettuccine con zucchini e gamberi ...

    Pizza Margherita e Spaghetti Bolognese? Smiley Smiley 


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:
    d997h:
    RC:

    Agreed. It looks like a cucumber, too confusing. Smiley Smiley

    And you spend time often at Largo di Garda ??? Smiley... so sad ... Smiley ... fettuccine con zucchini e gamberi ...

    Pizza Margherita e Spaghetti Bolognese? Smiley Smiley 

    Allora, let's get back to the 992 GT3 Touring then ... Smiley ...


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I am looking forward to driving the Porsche 992 GT3 Touring...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    ...but a bit concerned that the GT3 Touring design is spoiled by the front S-duct vents and that active rear wing? Smiley

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    ...in my eyes, the duck-tail spoiler is much more attractive for the GT3 Touring! Smiley


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    + 1 .  That small duck tail would look so much better . But it is too small to give the needed downforce . The regular GT3 has this + the huge wing . 

    Also not sure at all about the S-front duck . Looks very ugly for the moment , but judgment will have to be made once it is revealed in it s presentation form 


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    How about no wing at all?! Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:

    How about no wing at all?! Smiley

    No 911 is without a wing since the 964 Smiley


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