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    Re: Porsche Panamera diesel confirmed for production

    easy_rider911:

    @racerx: I think the comparisons you make between the 928 and the 911 of the same era are absolutely fine - no arguments from me on that front  It's just that Porsche buyers continued to want the 911 in spite of its handling faults.

    So, rather than fight the customer's wishes, Porsche decided to change tack: PAG decided to drop the 928 and continue to improve a flawed design - and PAG being the geniuses that they are - they did so to the point where the flawed design is now better than pretty much anything else on the market past or present.

    I love the 928 - and it was a really great car for its time - but if you consider the current 997.2 GT3 RS or the 997 GT2 RS, these are not cruisers or GT cars. They are track tools that are as sharp as a surgeon's scalpel. The reality is that the 928 stopped being developed whereas the 911 has continued to be developed dramatically since then. IMvHO, one cannot justifiably claim that the continued evolution of the 911 platform to where the 2010 models are today has not exceeded the 928 by a really significant margin ... the very designers and engineers who came up with the 928 have been busy developing the 911 for the past 20 years to produce the cars that are on sale today. Just my 2 cents 

     

     

    I agree with all that you say Easy, with 1 small exception, 928 was the more desired car by many of the 911's and 944's buyers, but it was too expensive.  Same today as saying AM buyers prefer the AMV8 over the DBS. The sales numbers alone would say so but everyone knows that if they had the same price tag, DBS would outsell it beyond belief.

    911 has become a great car imagine if the 928 had also been the recipient of equal development.

     

     

     

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    Re: Porsche Panamera diesel confirmed for production

    racerx:

     

    The ONLY people buying a V8 vantage today instead of a V12 Vantage are people who can't afford the V12V. That is today's reality. The V12V is the better product. It's the price that makes the decision.

    This is not entirely true especially for the convertible versions. The DB9 Volante is way too soft and chassis not rigid enough compared to the V8...

     

    Of course the DBS solves some most of the problems of the DB9, but price always matter somewhere and the DBS is WAY more expensive than the V8... You can buy a 911 cab for the price difference... Your point doesn't make sense.


    Re: Porsche Panamera diesel confirmed for production

    SciFrog:
    racerx:

     

    The ONLY people buying a V8 vantage today instead of a V12 Vantage are people who can't afford the V12V. That is today's reality. The V12V is the better product. It's the price that makes the decision.

    This is not entirely true especially for the convertible versions. The DB9 Volante is way too soft and chassis not rigid enough compared to the V8...

     

    Of course the DBS solves some most of the problems of the DB9, but price always matter somewhere and the DBS is WAY more expensive than the V8... You can buy a 911 cab for the price difference... Your point doesn't make sense.

    Too much egg nog?Smiley

    I said V12 Vantage vs. the V8 Vantage   or DBS vs. the V8 Vantage.  (all coupes)

    With price being the same I REPEAT IF PRICE WERE THE SAME no one would buy the V8 coupe over the the V12V or DBS.

    The point was that everyone desires the better car (the 12 cylinder Vantage and DBS) but don't buy it because they can't afford it, which you just confirmed.


     
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