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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    There better be It's very cheap looking at best, how they rounded the edges of that thing.. horrendous design feature


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Looks like cheap chinese manufacture...


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    You guys are a bit harshSmiley

    The rear isn't the best part but rear 3/4 looks very nice. 

    at the end of the day I am sure it'll be a car with spectacular presence. 


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Come on Futch, let us pile on.Smiley

    The rear is pretty ugly. The front and side look real good.Smiley

     


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    I love the look of this car - just fantastic! And the power data is out of another world! Pure car porn!


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    REALZEUS:
    wedouglas:

    I'd be embarrassed to drive around with that fog light.

    I believe there is a delete-option on that one.

    I think there is a EU regulation requiring rear-fog lights on all cars Smiley


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    Ron (Houston):

    FL.jpeg

    In this picture the F12 looks very happy :-)


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    My friend drove the car last week as said looks better than on pictures, incl fog light. He has an order in for one

     


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    MKSGR:
    REALZEUS:
    wedouglas:

    I'd be embarrassed to drive around with that fog light.

    I believe there is a delete-option on that one.

    I think there is a EU regulation requiring rear-fog lights on all cars Smiley

    Indeed, but you can have another kind of a fog light. Smiley


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    MKSGR:
    Ron (Houston):

    FL.jpeg

    In this picture the F12 looks very happy :-)


    ... and the Aventador looks a bit pis.sed. Smiley


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    Rossi:
    MKSGR:
    Ron (Houston):

    FL.jpeg

    In this picture the F12 looks very happy :-)


    ... and the Aventador looks a bit pis.sed. Smiley


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    Exactly, like he has a crumpled face Smiley Like: the other car has 40hp more - BUT I am wider and lower Smiley


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Ferrari has gone all in on Anime and Samurai helmet design cues.

    They need to add a new option - Optional non cartoon front end.

    At least they lowered the cars center of gravity instead of their usual farm tractor like CG.


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    nberry:

    Depreciation I believe is related to a price point which Ferrari crossed with the 430, introducing the California and relatively poor front engine models. The 612 and 599 were not well received.

     

    There are now many , many  people now who drive to work everyday in $100-200,000 cars from Porsche, MBZ,BMW, Jaguar,Bentley,Audi ,Tesla,Fisker to name a few and when the " boy racerish " V8 mid engined Ferrari is selling in the $mid-high 200s new, those former cars protect the latter's resale  , since pre-owned and a yr or two old ,  the market always prices them above the new prices of the " everyday " high priced cars due to its "exotic" status.

    Once you go into the $300-450K range new for any regular production Ferrari , you will suffer massive depreciation as the pre owned market wants to pay no more than a number beginning with " 2 " , IMHO.


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    There were a couple posts in elsewhere stating that the F12's jutting  angular tapezoidal  lower lateral fascia was not cribbed from recent Lambos like the Reventon and Aventador , but was inspired by F1 race cars ..... yeah right 


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Back to the Future : Ferrari proudly premiers  the world's first vehicle with keyless keypad hatchback unlocking :

    And here is their first released pic of  the optional keyless keypad for the door :



    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Keypad entry? Thats very Ford of them.indecision


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Futch:
    mp:

    Looks are subjective. But, I find it interesting how we seem to cut Porsche slack - by getting excited when they change the tail lights slightly or perhaps add LED's etc. By the way, I do like them anyway. We've just been conditioned to expect certain things from various manufacturers and hence, we treat them differently.

    I find the F12 contemporary, as the Enzo was when it was released. Not for everyone's tastes or preferences. Maybe they are trying to be more like Lambo, which seem to be far more aggressive in their stying - which I also like.

    As for Nick's comment, I rather agree - in North America, all of these cars just can't be used properly without the risk of losing your license. 

    Not saying I wouldn't buy one, just that it couldn't be fully appreciated here. 

     

    Very true. Ferraris are very sharp lately, it's exciting, but for me the later design are not timeless. The Enzo so very noughties IMHO. 

    The F40 is very 80s but will always be amazing. 

     +1 being a 458 owner

    The F40 is the last Ferrari I love, all other new models dont have the feel anymore, just expensive, thats sad.


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    Once you go into the $300-450K range new for any regular production Ferrari , you will suffer massive depreciation as the pre owned market wants to pay no more than a number beginning with " 2 " , IMHO.

    Agreed  - this has always gone with the V12 category and new car buyers go in with this knowledge unless they are complete fools - which doesn't make it any less painful! That's why the V12 customers are always higher ranked within  Ferrari itself, and the dealers than the aspirational V8 buyers. I know this is a generalisation,  but in essence it is pretty accurate, though the V8 only guys won't admit it.


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    I have never liked cars that seem to "lean back" (like the 612, 599, ff, , the SLS, but indeed the z3 and the z4 as well).
    I much more prefer the cars that seem to lean forward, like the 360, 430, the toyota celica etc.

    So, the 620 's overall shape doesn't appeal to me at all. Combine that with the fact that their latest designs seem to be confused to say the least does not make me desire this car.


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    First pictures from the Geneva stand:


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    I must admit that for me F12 is simply awsome.


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    zeshark:

    First pictures from the Geneva stand:

    Unbelievable!! Smiley


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Silver and grey are the new reds for Ferrari. Their latest cars look better in those colours.


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    reginos:

    Silver and grey are the new reds for Ferrari. Their latest cars look better in those colours.

    Nah... You simply like silver! Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    Me too. Just... I would go for either Grigio Titanio or Grigio Ferro.


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    wow, this is the first pic where u can see the form of the front, and its aerodinamics ....amazing car, must look awesom e in the streets!!!! much better than the pics

     


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    I had some reservations about the back from the 3/4 angle, but in the photos on the Asphalt.ch  site, even the back looks good. Looks like the red car is not the new Rosso Berlinetta - though that may be because of the lighting. I wonder how much this new colour and the aluminium colour will cost Smiley . The base wheels look a lot better than the optional ones on the red car - so far at least.

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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta(aka 620)

    A grinning Pokemon from the front and old man grey undies pulled up its crack


     
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