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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    According to my Porsche Dealer the presentation of the GT3 has been moved from end January to February 16th. 

     Fingers crossed 🤞 


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    turbolite


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    As announced, Feb. 16th it is...

    https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1130438_2021-porsche-911-gt3-to-debut-feb-16-with-over-500-hp-available-manual

     

     


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    There's even a countdown :

    https://newstv.porsche.com/en/article/172719.html


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    I just get a schedule of Porsche new cars announcements in 2021...

    January : Taycan 2wd (done)

    March : 992 GT3 (confirmed) / GT3 RS + Taycan Cross Turismo

    June : 992 GT3 Touring

    August : 992 GTS

    September : "Performance SUV"

    October : 992 T

    November : 718 Cayman GT4 RS

    I don't know if it is accurate or not...


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    the RS is next year.

    I heard the GT4RS is earlier than november but covid...can change anything any day.


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Procup:

    I just get a schedule of Porsche new cars announcements in 2021...

    January : Taycan 2wd (done)

    March : 992 GT3 (confirmed) / GT3 RS + Taycan Cross Turismo

    June : 992 GT3 Touring

    August : 992 GTS

    September : "Performance SUV"

    October : 992 T

    November : 718 Cayman GT4 RS

    I don't know if it is accurate or not...

    Pretty much accurate, more or less. Smiley


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    RC:
    Procup:

    I just get a schedule of Porsche new cars announcements in 2021...

    January : Taycan 2wd (done)

    March : 992 GT3 (confirmed) / GT3 RS + Taycan Cross Turismo

    June : 992 GT3 Touring

    August : 992 GTS

    September : "Performance SUV"

    October : 992 T

    November : 718 Cayman GT4 RS

    I don't know if it is accurate or not...

    Pretty much accurate, more or less. Smiley

    Whats the deal then , Christian?

    No interest in another 911 ?


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    October : 992 T    - yummy ... indecision


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    RC:
    Procup:

    I just get a schedule of Porsche new cars announcements in 2021...

    January : Taycan 2wd (done)

    March : 992 GT3 (confirmed) / GT3 RS + Taycan Cross Turismo

    June : 992 GT3 Touring

    August : 992 GTS

    September : "Performance SUV"

    October : 992 T

    November : 718 Cayman GT4 RS

    I don't know if it is accurate or not...

    Pretty much accurate, more or less. Smiley

    GT3 and GT3 RS both in March?

    The GT3 is on 16th of February and the RS probably much later.


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Wife wanted a 992 Turbo S Convertible, now she wants a 992 Carrera 4 GTS Convertible. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up in a regular Carrera 4S Convertible. Smiley A 992 GT3 Touring Convertible would have been interesting for her as well but since it doesn't seem to come... Smiley

    Everything comes down to lease cost and right now, Porsche is not cheap. I guess however that once the GTS is out, the Carrera S models will drop in lease cost. 

    We'll see...

    911 for me? No more I'm afraid. I was thinking about the new Huracan STO but without AWD, not worth it (for me).

    765LT if I can buy it with one Bitcoin. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    6.59 on NNR.  Holy Moly!!  That is amazing...


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    turbolite


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    turbolite:

    6.59 on NNR.  Holy Moly!!  That is amazing...

    That is new longer 20.8km version (brand new this year).  Laps 6:55.20 for comparison purposes to all previous models (20.6km lap)


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Grant:
    turbolite:

    6.59 on NNR.  Holy Moly!!  That is amazing...

    That is new longer 20.8km version (brand new this year).  Laps 6:55.20 for comparison purposes to all previous models (20.6km lap)


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    But for the first time on R tires Smiley those are worth 10 seconds 


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Gnil:

    But for the first time on R tires Smiley those are worth 10 seconds 

    same R tires 'tech' as the one on the 991.2RS but RS still have wider front and rear so Smiley...


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Gnil:
    Grant:
    turbolite:

    6.59 on NNR.  Holy Moly!!  That is amazing...

    That is new longer 20.8km version (brand new this year).  Laps 6:55.20 for comparison purposes to all previous models (20.6km lap)


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    But for the first time on R tires Smiley those are worth 10 seconds 

    When you look at cornerspeeds i think the R is worth more like 15 seconds.


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Porsche claims it is only 3-4 seconds.  


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGlivTy4Ydg&feature=emb_logo

    The average times were Cup 2, 73.1, Cup 2 R, 71.8. The Laps Cup 2: 65, 64.8, 64.7, 65.1 Cup 2 R: 63.2, 64.1, 64.2, 64.4

    1.3-1.5 seconds on a 1 Minute track so ~ 10 seconds on the NBR


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    hunterone:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGlivTy4Ydg&feature=emb_logo

    The average times were Cup 2, 73.1, Cup 2 R, 71.8. The Laps Cup 2: 65, 64.8, 64.7, 65.1 Cup 2 R: 63.2, 64.1, 64.2, 64.4

    1.3-1.5 seconds on a 1 Minute track so ~ 10 seconds on the NBR

    Thanks for that.  So, if you assume 10 of the 17 second improvement of the 992 vs 991.2 GT3 is due to R tires, then there is a 7 second improvement (or 1 second per minute).  So, at my local track (~2 minutes), I should expect the new car to be 2 seconds per lap faster than my current car (that's a pretty significant difference).

    More important will be how the new car feels - is it faster but less fun?  Or maybe the new front suspension makes lapping even more fun (could be less understeer and more precision and less front tire wear from scrubbing).  I would hope for the latter...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Grant:
    More important will be how the new car feels - is it faster but less fun?  Or maybe the new front suspension makes lapping even more fun (could be less understeer and more precision and less front tire wear from scrubbing).  I would hope for the latter...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    Don't know if we can take from an appropriate example, but if you looks at the lap time video from Kern, the car is extremely stable, no understeer, no unstable movements , no tire screech. Now it is maybe because he is a pro, or could it be that the car is just more composed then the previous.  Too composed ? That could be taking fun out of the equation . 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    porsche-explains-why-the-new-911-gt3-is-faster-than-the-2019-gt3-rs


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    nberry:

    porsche-explains-why-the-new-911-gt3-is-faster-than-the-2019-gt3-rs

    That's right, except this line:

    "Hence the new GT3's time of 6.59.9 is theoretically quicker (by a fraction of a second) than the previous GT3 RS".

    992 GT3 is actually 1.2 sec quicker than the 991.2 RS (not just a fraction of a second) when comparing same 20.6km lap and both on Cup R tires...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    I do not care about a few seconds. I care about the fact that Porsche made it possible to put another n/a GT model on the market and that the weight basically stayed the same. blush We should embrace this car because in a couple of years, such cars will be a thing of the past.

    In a couple of years, we are going to have EV sports cars available which will wipe the floor with the GT3 performance, on straights and on the track. Numbers don't really matter anymore, emotions and fun matter. You'll see. Smiley


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    RC:

    I do not care about a few seconds. I care about the fact that Porsche made it possible to put another n/a GT model on the market and that the weight basically stayed the same. blush -

     

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)

     

    I agree - but 17 seconds (even with cheater tires) over my car is a pretty big improvement, while meeting stricter regulations.  In the US, should be easy to drop another 20 pounds and add sound, HP, and TQ (they told me impressive numbers on the phone and said they have dyno data) with aftermarket exhaust.

    https://shop.gmgracing.com/collections/all/products/gmg-991-speedster-exhaust

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EPzl9ztaQI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjayTZxHUI

    This is without removing Cats and Fake OPF (in the US)...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    I agree, 17 seconds are a lot but like I said before, it doesn't really matter anymore. 


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Grant:

    I agree - but 17 seconds (even with cheater tires) over my car is a pretty big improvement, while meeting stricter regulations. 

    thanks to Michelin which did 85% of the improvement. Look at current emission numbers compared to 991.2 cars and you will see a whopping 50% in numbers increase. They will have to sell a lot of hybrid and EV to be neutral to avoid fines and issues in future homologation. That can also explain why the price bump. 


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    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    RC:

    I agree, 17 seconds are a lot but like I said before, it doesn't really matter anymore. 

    I'm not sure why it doesn't matter "anymore".  If it ever mattered, why doesn't it matter now?


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    RC:

    I agree, 17 seconds are a lot but like I said before, it doesn't really matter anymore. 

    We have discovered that with that fun little car, the GR. it’s not all about the damn fastest.

    17 secs faster was on Cup R’s 


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    RC:

    In a couple of years, we are going to have EV sports cars available which will wipe the floor with the GT3 performance, on straights and on the track. Numbers don't really matter anymore, emotions and fun matter. You'll see. Smiley

    You hit the nail on the head. That's why my next car is probably going to be a restoration of a 1965 Alfa Romeo GTA . I believe the expression is OMG angel .


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    crayphile:
    RC:

    In a couple of years, we are going to have EV sports cars available which will wipe the floor with the GT3 performance, on straights and on the track. Numbers don't really matter anymore, emotions and fun matter. You'll see. Smiley

    You hit the nail on the head. That's why my next car is probably going to be a restoration of a 1965 Alfa Romeo GTA . I believe the expression is OMG angel .

    One will learn more about car control in that 65 Alfa on the track than with a 992 GT3.  The speeds of the newer cars are much too high to safely explore the limits of handling and to hone one's driving skills.  


    Re: Do I dream or nobody speaks about the teaser and pre-presentation of the 992 GT3 ?

    Grant, how much faster time wise do you believe you can complete your home circuit in a 992 GT3? Are you going to order a 992 GT3?


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