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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I think Dave trying to go from a 991GT3.1 to a Gen2RS was really the deal stopper.

    I think the UK pattern works like this for GT lovers,

    gen1GT3 to gen1RS

    gen1RS back to gen2GT3

    then gen2GT3 to gen2RS.

    if your going to part ex your gen1GT3 for a RS your going to be up against hungry gen2GT3 owners ( and gen1RS) wanting to do the same. We all know what scenario is going to be more fruitful for the dealer..

    But Dave, really, keep your cool and hang in there. A good Porsche outfit will prove the above wrong. 


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    throt

     

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Was with the Ferrari dealer yesterday and a interesting take away was that they have ZERO Control of who gets a Pista - Ferrari will decide based on THEIR data and particularly how long you kept previous models - maybe Porsche could learn something from them......- I must say I like the part very much of where they track the VIN how long a customer keeps their cars and services them - way to go ! kiss


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I don't think they give a toss what Porche(s) you own as a factor into the decision here - just how much you spend. It's not like the UK, used cars barely sell at all here.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    BjoernB:

    Was with the Ferrari dealer yesterday and a interesting take away was that they have ZERO Control of who gets a Pista - Ferrari will decide based on THEIR data and particularly how long you kept previous models - maybe Porsche could learn something from them......- I must say I like the part very much of where they track the VIN how long a customer keeps their cars and services them - way to go ! kiss

    haha, based on that, they should remove a good bunch of flippers Smiley can't see it happening Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    It's a bloodbath according to them for the car - hahahaha


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    BjoernB:

    It's a bloodbath according to them for the car - hahahaha

    that is for sure, when you just lift up the base price few days after the release....Smiley

    sport car business is at its best right now and flippers are all over the place Smiley taking a track oriented ferrari at the very first batch is free insurance for 5 to 6 figures profit.


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    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Nope. Strung me along for a couple of months and finally got a 'no'.

    You will get one...second batch. Smiley Stay in touch with your dealer, do not give up.

    I even heard that they added some production slots recently (last week?) for the first batch.

    Oh...second batch won't come before late autumn. Earliest. Maybe even early into 2019 (this is the latest rumor).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    RC:
    DaveGordon:

    Nope. Strung me along for a couple of months and finally got a 'no'.

    You will get one...second batch. Smiley Stay in touch with your dealer, do not give up.


    --RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    Exactly, keep your cool and stay in touch.

    I was talking to my sales guy, him and the sales manager were saying how nasty the phone calls were becoming. They themselves are getting fed up now, to a degree of course. Even the celebs are getting upset, throwing their pink handbags about after receiving the NO because they was expecting to automatically secure an allocation. It’s all gone berserk here Smiley...That’s why I stated above to Dave to keep his cool and hang in there Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Oh, forgot to mention something important: The latest rumor also indicates that the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen (not sure about Leipzig) will be closed(!) for almost two(!) months(!), probably August and September, for the switch to particulate filters and the preparing of 992 production.

    So I wouldn't expect a second batch too soon...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Jan Feb 2019, next RS deliveries. That’s the rumour anyway. Would make it about right then kiss..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    throt:

    Jan Feb 2019, next RS deliveries. That’s the rumour anyway. Would make it about right then kiss..

    Hmm, I have a delivery date early Nov. yes Maybe only applies to EU cars.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:
    throt:

    Jan Feb 2019, next RS deliveries. That’s the rumour anyway. Would make it about right then kiss..

    Hmm, I have a delivery date early Nov. yes Maybe only applies to EU cars.

    It just got shifted to Jan SmileySmileySmiley


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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Thanks for the ‘good’news.indecision


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    Where the willingness is great, the difficulties cannot be great.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:
    throt:

    Jan Feb 2019, next RS deliveries. That’s the rumour anyway. Would make it about right then kiss..

    Hmm, I have a delivery date early Nov. yes Maybe only applies to EU cars.

    Yours was a first batch car, Nick Smiley..

    And, yes, second batch cars Jan Feb for the UK, I hear..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bluelines:
    nberry:
    throt:

    Jan Feb 2019, next RS deliveries. That’s the rumour anyway. Would make it about right then kiss..

    Hmm, I have a delivery date early Nov. yes Maybe only applies to EU cars.

    It just got shifted to Jan SmileySmileySmiley

    Buddy, did you get a RS allocation. Do you have something to tell me and the boys Smiley Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    MKSGR:
    Carlos from Spain:
    DaveGordon:

    Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.

    If it were up to me I would take the GT3-2/RS allocations from dealer's hands and assign them directly from factory to the clients, create a point system, the more points you have the higher up you are on the list, the more track events you can prove you attended with a 911 the more points you have, the more miles you made your previous 911 the more points you get, if they are GT3/RS miles even more points, the longer you kept your previous GT car the more points, if you sold it before 6 month you loose a ton of points, etc... poseurs and flippers? don't let the door hit you on your a$$ on the way out, thank you. One can only dream....

    This is an excellent idea. The current system is highly problematical and has destroyed a lot of loyalty of long-term customers. In the next downturn most of those new buyers who seem attractive to the Porsche dealers these days will be gone - as many of them are just there because they think the GT cars "are a good investment". That is nonsense, of course. The GT cars (all of the 991 generation) are mass produced, i.e. many more made then needed in normal times.

    Nice idea but there is a simpler way: Dutch auctions.

    They release the allocations in large batches and extract maximum $$. Same solution than for event tickets. Easy, efficient, elegant and fair if you add a small fraction (10%) at a lower price with a lottery. But it will never happen because some people make too much money with the current systems. In the end it is just a car and there are plenty of other good cars around...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    On RL a guy just posted he received GT3RS allocation. Here is what he posted. You'll better understand the system.The dealer will make the money yet again on the car. Also, the owner will take a hit on trade in because of the track miles. In CA, trading in a car makes no sense. You still are taxed on the full value of the new car. That's why I usually sell my car back to the dealer once I know my car is on the boat.

    "Just got the good news on an allocation this PM. Commission # C49--- , lock date 7/7/18, delivery in Sarasota 10/26.
    One condition of the deal, cannot track the '18 GT Silver GT3 anymore and trade it in. Just cancelled CHIN at Sebring for this weekend and all plans for summer track dates."

     

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    RC:

    Oh, forgot to mention something important: The latest rumor also indicates that the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen (not sure about Leipzig) will be closed(!) for almost two(!) months(!), probably August and September, for the switch to particulate filters and the preparing of 992 production.

    So I wouldn't expect a second batch too soon...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    I was sure you know this thing from at least 3 months...I had this info times ago,factory will be closed August and September,the production will be stopped for all cars,for example Macan will restart only with the restyling,not before.

    salesman here are really upset,no money for at least two months...

    first deliveries restart mid October...early November.Also I don’t know outside,but in Italy from September every single car will need a ”personal” omologation...so maybe there will be delay also for that thing.Really seems more things will change.Smiley


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Super Darius:
    RC:

    Oh, forgot to mention something important: The latest rumor also indicates that the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen (not sure about Leipzig) will be closed(!) for almost two(!) months(!), probably August and September, for the switch to particulate filters and the preparing of 992 production.

    So I wouldn't expect a second batch too soon...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    I was sure you know this thing from at least 3 months...I had this info times ago,factory will be closed August and September,the production will be stopped for all cars,for example Macan will restart only with the restyling,not before.

    salesman here are really upset,no money for at least two months...

    first deliveries restart mid October...early November.Also I don’t know outside,but in Italy from September every single car will need a ”personal” omologation...so maybe there will be delay also for that thing.Really seems more things will change.Smiley

    Why is Porsche giving build dates for US cars in September? For an example, my car enters the body shop on August 31st and is completed on September 7th? If Porsche knows it going to close the factory for two months (August and September) why mislead the customer?Smiley


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    Where the willingness is great, the difficulties cannot be great.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I was surprised about this too. Was given two options, either August or September production for the GT3. yes


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:
    Super Darius:
    RC:

    Oh, forgot to mention something important: The latest rumor also indicates that the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen (not sure about Leipzig) will be closed(!) for almost two(!) months(!), probably August and September, for the switch to particulate filters and the preparing of 992 production.

    So I wouldn't expect a second batch too soon...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    I was sure you know this thing from at least 3 months...I had this info times ago,factory will be closed August and September,the production will be stopped for all cars,for example Macan will restart only with the restyling,not before.

    salesman here are really upset,no money for at least two months...

    first deliveries restart mid October...early November.Also I don’t know outside,but in Italy from September every single car will need a ”personal” omologation...so maybe there will be delay also for that thing.Really seems more things will change.Smiley

    Why is Porsche giving build dates for US cars in September? For an example, my car enters the body shop on August 31st and is completed on September 7th? If Porsche knows it going to close the factory for two months (August and September) why mislead the customer?Smiley

    Nick,in fact I don’t know why I read that some cars will be “produced” in that days...really,i’m “sure” that the factory will be closed...but..Smiley

    that maybe this closure is only for EU cars?can be...who tell me this thing,tell me talking about Italian cars...so maybe is only for Italian/EU cars.Sure is something first  related to emission problems...second to 992 intro....so Smiley


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Super Darius:
    nberry:
    Super Darius:
    RC:

    Oh, forgot to mention something important: The latest rumor also indicates that the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen (not sure about Leipzig) will be closed(!) for almost two(!) months(!), probably August and September, for the switch to particulate filters and the preparing of 992 production.

    So I wouldn't expect a second batch too soon...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    I was sure you know this thing from at least 3 months...I had this info times ago,factory will be closed August and September,the production will be stopped for all cars,for example Macan will restart only with the restyling,not before.

    salesman here are really upset,no money for at least two months...

    first deliveries restart mid October...early November.Also I don’t know outside,but in Italy from September every single car will need a ”personal” omologation...so maybe there will be delay also for that thing.Really seems more things will change.Smiley

    Why is Porsche giving build dates for US cars in September? For an example, my car enters the body shop on August 31st and is completed on September 7th? If Porsche knows it going to close the factory for two months (August and September) why mislead the customer?Smiley

    Nick,in fact I don’t know why I read that some cars will be “produced” in that days...really,i’m “sure” that the factory will be closed...but..Smiley

    that maybe this closure is only for EU cars?can be...who tell me this thing,tell me talking about Italian cars...so maybe is only for Italian/EU cars.Sure is something first  related to emission problems...second to 992 intro....so Smiley


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS

     

    This makes sense. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    It is really unfortunate for the EU car enthusiasts that these cars are being built there but they seem to be willing to send the best cars outside the EU. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    AP911:

    I was surprised about this too. Was given two options, either August or September production for the GT3. yes

    Have you received your build schedule? BTW, you're going to love Sapphire Blue on your GT3. BTW are you going with LED's?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Well I gave them my specs, paid a 10% deposit, and was told to choose which production slot I wanted (picked August). All that was done by my cousin in the UAE as I am currently in the US. Will as about it soon but I'm not in a hurry as I won't be back until it gets really hot there 

    When sapphire blue was introduced I had a Macan on order and regretted not waiting for it as there would have been a delay if I went with Sapphire. I picked Agate and got bored from it too soon. This time I made sure that I picked it. 

    No LEDs for me as roads in the UAE are well lit so no reason to waste money on it. Do you have them?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    So your car will be a EU car? 

    I had Sapphire Blue on my 2017 Targa and did not opt for the LED's. My GT3 is GR and I did order LED's and they look great. BTW, I ordered them for the overall look. It is a very rare if ever when I drive my GT3 at night. Same can be said for windshield wipers. Never drive my car in the rain or threat of rain.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:

    So your car will be a EU car? 

    I had Sapphire Blue on my 2017 Targa and did not opt for the LED's. My GT3 is GR and I did order LED's and they look great. BTW, I ordered them for the overall look. It is a very rare if ever when I drive my GT3 at night. Same can be said for windshield wipers. Never drive my car in the rain or threat of rain.

    It will be a ROW car (UAE) but they are similar to EU cars (without the added particulate filter).

    Been in the US for 7 years now, the time has come to go home (relocating this summer). 

    The touring package in black gives me tinted front and rear lights. 

    The Sapphire Blue on a Targa is a great combination. 

    Did you go with the bucket seats? I chose the folding buckets for the added convenience of using the rear. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    The Targa did not have LWBS option. You must be excited to go home. kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Super Darius:
    RC:

    Oh, forgot to mention something important: The latest rumor also indicates that the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen (not sure about Leipzig) will be closed(!) for almost two(!) months(!), probably August and September, for the switch to particulate filters and the preparing of 992 production.

    So I wouldn't expect a second batch too soon...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    I was sure you know this thing from at least 3 months...I had this info times ago,factory will be closed August and September,the production will be stopped for all cars,for example Macan will restart only with the restyling,not before.

    salesman here are really upset,no money for at least two months...

    first deliveries restart mid October...early November.Also I don’t know outside,but in Italy from September every single car will need a ”personal” omologation...so maybe there will be delay also for that thing.Really seems more things will change.Smiley

    Why didn't you say something? This would have been interesting information. Smiley

    Is Leipzig affected as well? I don't have a clue.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    RC:

    Why didn't you say something? This would have been interesting information. Smiley

    Nice try buddy Smiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


     
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