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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Rossi:
    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range.


    Just wait, in a minute someone will argue with safety reasons and all that bla-bla-bla. Smiley

    I would rather argue with the EU, politicians and their bla bla bla... Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    Rossi:
    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range.


    Just wait, in a minute someone will argue with safety reasons and all that bla-bla-bla. Smiley

    I would rather argue with the EU, politicians and their bla bla bla... Smiley Smiley

    IMO the 997 was an ideal size for a modern day 911. I doubt that the subsequent increase in length and width was due to Regulation.

    How can the modern Renault Alpine be so small?


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range to truly rival the offerings of competitive brands.


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    Isn't the Panamera supposed to be the GT in Porsche's range ?


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    reginos:
    RC:
    Rossi:
    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range.


    Just wait, in a minute someone will argue with safety reasons and all that bla-bla-bla. Smiley

    I would rather argue with the EU, politicians and their bla bla bla... Smiley Smiley

    IMO the 997 was an ideal size for a modern day 911. I doubt that the subsequent increase in length and width was due to Regulation.

    How can the modern Renault Alpine be so small?

    You want small? Look at this (R8) small... (compare it to the Audi A2 on the left, the VW Golf behind it and the GLC on the right). Smiley

    IMG_1879-2.jpg

     


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    997 is the best size car of all 911 range...


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    reginos:
    RC:
    Rossi:
    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range.


    Just wait, in a minute someone will argue with safety reasons and all that bla-bla-bla. Smiley

    I would rather argue with the EU, politicians and their bla bla bla... Smiley Smiley

    IMO the 997 was an ideal size for a modern day 911. I doubt that the subsequent increase in length and width was due to Regulation.

    How can the modern Renault Alpine be so small?

    You want small? Look at this (R8) small... (compare it to the Audi A2 on the left, the VW Golf behind it and the GLC on the right). Smiley

    IMG_1879-2.jpg

     

    You seem to mix up small with low. Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Not really...the "footprint" of the R8 is really amazingly small.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:

    Not really...the "footprint" of the R8 is really amazingly small.

    Even tinier than a TT.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    RC:

    Not really...the "footprint" of the R8 is really amazingly small.

    Even tinier than a TT.

    Almost... Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Some interesting rumors regarding the 992: Car will be presented in Paris but...hold your breath...first customer cars arrive in March 2019. angry


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Gauss:
    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range to truly rival the offerings of competitive brands.


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    "Porsche....and Nothing else matters"

     

    Isn't the Panamera supposed to be the GT in Porsche's range ?

    ......in the absence of anything else.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    reginos:
    RC:
    Rossi:
    reginos:

    The 911 is becoming too big and on the border of being huge enlightened

    Porsche want a single model to do everything from sportscar to lux-GT.

    I don't think this is the right strategy. They should have kept the 911 ethos of a lithe and agile sportscar and add a real GT (new-age 928) to the range.


    Just wait, in a minute someone will argue with safety reasons and all that bla-bla-bla. Smiley

    I would rather argue with the EU, politicians and their bla bla bla... Smiley Smiley

    IMO the 997 was an ideal size for a modern day 911. I doubt that the subsequent increase in length and width was due to Regulation.

    How can the modern Renault Alpine be so small?

    You want small? Look at this (R8) small... (compare it to the Audi A2 on the left, the VW Golf behind it and the GLC on the right). Smiley

    IMG_1879-2.jpg

     

    However, the R8 is bigger than the Huracan.  


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    That´s way later than we originaly tought!!! We tought December 2018! By the way any news on?

    Shifter - Same as the 918 or more conventional like in the new Panamera/Cayenne? You said they might change.

    Cars at launch - Carrera S or Carrera 4S or just like in the past as in Carrera 2 & 2S?

    Any chance we get yo see the iluminated Porsche Logo like in Mission E Concept and those cool indicators lights like in Audi.

    Regards.

     


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    That´s way later than we originaly tought!!! We tought December 2018! By the way any news on?

    Shifter - Same as the 918 or more conventional like in the new Panamera/Cayenne? You said they might change.

    Cars at launch - Carrera S or Carrera 4S or just like in the past as in Carrera 2 & 2S?

    Any chance we get yo see the iluminated Porsche Logo like in Mission E Concept and those cool indicators lights like in Audi.

    Regards.

     

    Yep...pretty late in my opinion. I thought the usual Nov./Dec. launch but March 2019? Ouch.

    I hope it isn't true but so far, this seems to be the date (Germany, could be even later in other markets).

    Illuminated logos and such? I think I saw one once on a testcar, this has been a while ago though, so not sure...


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    911tts:

    997 is the best size car of all 911 range...

    I totally agree Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    This is what I also think... but closely looking at the size of the 991 tells us that the difference is very small.

    It is the visual impact that makes the 991 much bigger,


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    reginos:
    911tts:

    997 is the best size car of all 911 range...

    I totally agree Smiley

    One reason why I keep it. Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Does anyone have final specifications for the 992? If not, how can you say the new car is going to be huge, a GT car , etc?  Also how about the specs of the 991 compared to the 997?


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    That´s way later than we originaly tought!!! We tought December 2018! By the way any news on?

    Shifter - Same as the 918 or more conventional like in the new Panamera/Cayenne? You said they might change.

    Cars at launch - Carrera S or Carrera 4S or just like in the past as in Carrera 2 & 2S?

    Any chance we get yo see the iluminated Porsche Logo like in Mission E Concept and those cool indicators lights like in Audi.

    Regards.

     

    Yep...pretty late in my opinion. I thought the usual Nov./Dec. launch but March 2019? Ouch.

    I hope it isn't true but so far, this seems to be the date (Germany, could be even later in other markets).

    Illuminated logos and such? I think I saw one once on a testcar, this has been a while ago though, so not sure...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    RC - If this rumor is true that would mean we wouldn't see the 992 in the US till summer 2019. I'm not sure if these would be considered 2019 or 2020 model year cars. Hopefully, you will see customer cars in December and US in Spring 2019.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Wonderbar:

    Does anyone have final specifications for the 992? If not, how can you say the new car is going to be huge, a GT car , etc?  Also how about the specs of the 991 compared to the 997?

    991 is less than 6cm longer than a 997

    4D6B87E0-FCDF-48E5-A601-CE6B5A210CD1.jpeg


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    The 997 only seems smaller compared to the over stretched 991, but it is nonetheless a larger than ideal size compared to the 993 whixh arguably was the best proportioned 911. The loss of air cooling was far less comproming to the overall driving experience than the loss of compactness.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    bobr:
    RC:
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    That´s way later than we originaly tought!!! We tought December 2018! By the way any news on?

    Shifter - Same as the 918 or more conventional like in the new Panamera/Cayenne? You said they might change.

    Cars at launch - Carrera S or Carrera 4S or just like in the past as in Carrera 2 & 2S?

    Any chance we get yo see the iluminated Porsche Logo like in Mission E Concept and those cool indicators lights like in Audi.

    Regards.

     

    Yep...pretty late in my opinion. I thought the usual Nov./Dec. launch but March 2019? Ouch.

    I hope it isn't true but so far, this seems to be the date (Germany, could be even later in other markets).

    Illuminated logos and such? I think I saw one once on a testcar, this has been a while ago though, so not sure...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    RC - If this rumor is true that would mean we wouldn't see the 992 in the US till summer 2019. I'm not sure if these would be considered 2019 or 2020 model year cars. Hopefully, you will see customer cars in December and US in Spring 2019.

    Nope, I'm afraid March 2019 for first (German) customer cars stands... No clue about the US though but I assume same time or slightly later.

    That particulate filter thing messed up things badly at car factories over here....

    Some productions were/are supposed to be shut down for weeks before they start again.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    bobr:
    RC:
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    That´s way later than we originaly tought!!! We tought December 2018! By the way any news on?

    Shifter - Same as the 918 or more conventional like in the new Panamera/Cayenne? You said they might change.

    Cars at launch - Carrera S or Carrera 4S or just like in the past as in Carrera 2 & 2S?

    Any chance we get yo see the iluminated Porsche Logo like in Mission E Concept and those cool indicators lights like in Audi.

    Regards.

     

    Yep...pretty late in my opinion. I thought the usual Nov./Dec. launch but March 2019? Ouch.

    I hope it isn't true but so far, this seems to be the date (Germany, could be even later in other markets).

    Illuminated logos and such? I think I saw one once on a testcar, this has been a while ago though, so not sure...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    RC - If this rumor is true that would mean we wouldn't see the 992 in the US till summer 2019. I'm not sure if these would be considered 2019 or 2020 model year cars. Hopefully, you will see customer cars in December and US in Spring 2019.

     

    That particulate filter thing messed up things badly at car factories over here....

     

    Bloody do gooders, shame on them Smiley....

    Really looking forward to see how much this damn filter will effect the sound. They obviously know..Smiley. Lets hope its a Smiley, though..


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    They must be making a lot of GT2/3 RS between 992 showing and availability....


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    AP911:
    Wonderbar:

    Does anyone have final specifications for the 992? If not, how can you say the new car is going to be huge, a GT car , etc?  Also how about the specs of the 991 compared to the 997?

    991 is less than 6cm longer than a 997

    4D6B87E0-FCDF-48E5-A601-CE6B5A210CD1.jpeg


    I think 6cm more length is quite a lot, especially for sportscars. And private parts. Smiley

    And the 992 will be longer still, as well it will grow in width.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    I would bet on all 992 to be 2020 models in the USA. My spring 2014 Macan was a 2015 model for example...


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Apologies if a repost.

    https://youtu.be/mcfvhgLu3bk


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    bluelines:

    Apologies if a repost.

    https://youtu.be/mcfvhgLu3bk


    The NSX looks good in white, at least from the rear. Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    I would bet on all 992 to be 2020 models in the USA. My spring 2014 Macan was a 2015 model for example...

    Yes I remember mine was a 2015 too even though I took delivery of it by the end of April 2014. I remember the dealer telling me that they didn’t want to make the same mistake again, as they did with the 991 as some of the first were 2012 and they were being sold alongside 2012 997s. 


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    bluelines:

    Apologies if a repost.

    https://youtu.be/mcfvhgLu3bk

    Repost, but still cool SmileySmiley


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