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    Jan 28, 2010 1:10:37 AM

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    Mithras:
     If I had 3 kids (or the need to fit 5 people in any car on an even semi-regular basis) I would not buy a 5 seat car. It’s cramped and uncomfortable for everyone but the driver. Get a Q7 or some other 7 seater and have a bit of shoulder, knee and foot room!
     
     
     

     Then you wouldn't want an Audi  Q7 ( or especially a BMW  X5)  if your quest of seating adults  comfortably in the " back "  of a seven seater SUV.  Of the German " Big Three" , only the MBZ GL seats two adults in the third row comfortably with normal  headroom  and shoulder room as well as more leg room. 

    Jan 28, 2010 2:03:06 PM

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    MKW:     Then you wouldn't want an Audi  Q7 ( or especially a BMW  X5)  if your quest of seating adults  comfortably in the " back "  of a seven seater SUV.  Of the German " Big Three" , only the MBZ GL seats two adults in the third row comfortably with normal  headroom  and shoulder room as well as more leg room. 

    That is the exact reason I have had GL450s lately.

    Now that I only have one kid left in college, my transportation needs have moved away from massive seating and long-haul cargo capacity.

    The 4-seat configuration is just fine for me now, but I still need occasional large-format cargo capacity.  If the Panamera had not been designed with the hatch and folding rear seats, I would still be driving GL-type vehicles forever.


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    Jan 28, 2010 2:40:10 PM

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    Why no Cayenne, Mike ? 


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    Jan 28, 2010 2:49:33 PM

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    Why no Cayenne, Mike ? 

    Has about the same cargo space as Panamera, so too small for two kids in college when traveling to and from school.

    Also, when kids were even younger, Cayenne had much smaller passenger capacity than MB GL450, Lexus LX or GX, etc.  Just too small for my needs.

    Also, there seems to be not enough fuel economy difference between Cayenne and bigger MB or Lexus products to justify living with the smaller cargo/passenger capacity for sake of better consumption.

    Cayenne is too "in-between" Panamera and GL450 to make me look twice.


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    Jan 28, 2010 5:58:18 PM

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     Funny you talk about fuel consumption Mike...

    Jan 28, 2010 6:37:05 PM

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    SciFrog:

     Funny you talk about fuel consumption Mike...

     

    times are changing mate, let it happen Smiley


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    Jan 28, 2010 7:07:48 PM

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    Me personally, have never ever seen 5 people (regardless of age), to get out of any S-class, A8, 7 series or M5...

    Jan 28, 2010 8:43:16 PM

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    SciFrog:

     Funny you talk about fuel consumption Mike...

     

    Well, I'm just getting in practice for the day that I have to live on a fixed (don't ask how big) income Smiley

    I actually have fuel consumption in the back of my mind as maybe the 10th priority on my list of things to consider when choosing a vehicle.  It always makes me upset when I can't fill up a fuel tank to the top because the fuel-pump credit-card transaction limit is "only" $75.  Of course, the gasoline vendors re-negotiated their merchant agreements with the card issuers to make $100 the limit after the last gas price scare.

    Also, after figuring out that it only costs a few dollars to charge up the Tesla for 150 more miles of driving, gasoline looks like a major cost-center in my family disbursements Smiley

    In the previous discussion, I was only making the point that fuel efficiency has some (remote?) bearing on my emotional reaction to vehicles and I actually think about the numbers.


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    Jan 29, 2010 7:54:30 AM

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    Well, I'm just getting in practice for the day that I have to live on a fixed (don't ask how big) income Smiley


    Don't we all SmileySmileySmiley

    Jan 30, 2010 8:14:22 AM

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    W8MM:

    Also, after figuring out that it only costs a few dollars to charge up the Tesla for 150 more miles of driving, gasoline looks like a major cost-center in my family disbursements Smiley


    How do you like the Tesla? driving dynamics?


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    Jan 30, 2010 8:58:31 PM

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    ADias:       How do you like the Tesla? driving dynamics?

    I like the Tesla quite a bit.

    The driving dynamics remind me of my old 914-6 without the lift-throttle over-steer.


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    Jan 30, 2010 9:57:00 PM

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     Tesla if definitely onto something. One of my colleagues send a $5k deposit on the Tesla S the day they were announced, and he is not a car guy...

     
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