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    Too Thick???

    I've read a couple of articles recently that had me wondering. The writer (Chris Harris) was complaining that the steering wheel of the new M3 was too thick and took away road feel as a consequence. By chance I drove a 993 last week and was amazed at how much more road feel there was through the steering than my 997 with the thicker rim steering wheel.

    So my question is this: by paying more did I actually gain less? Anybody else wonder about the effect of thicker rimmed steering wheels?

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    If you wear racing gloves it is definatly too thick!

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    They bother me because they seem like a fashion trend or impulse purchase.

    Just because they're offered as an option doesn't make them a good idea? I remember going thru the order guide trying to spend all the money I allowed myself; might have ordered the thicker wheel if I didn't have/hate one already on my M3.

    I remember asking the reason/justification for the thicker wheels, something Walter Rohr would say, but don't remember getting any answers.

    Surrealistically speaking ( ), a thicker wheel means a child driver or a physically impaired driver, so to see one on an M3 (I hate my 04 M3's wheel) or worse, on a Carrera, makes my brain jump tracks.

    Don't be offended if you have one; I don't mean any harm, I'm just being honest.

    Hey, the wheel's thumb bumps bother me too, but at least they have a purpose (supposedly no broken hands if you slam a curb with front wheels).

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    Le Chef said:
    I've read a couple of articles recently that had me wondering. The writer (Chris Harris) was complaining that the steering wheel of the new M3 was too thick and took away road feel as a consequence. By chance I drove a 993 last week and was amazed at how much more road feel there was through the steering than my 997 with the thicker rim steering wheel.

    So my question is this: by paying more did I actually gain less? Anybody else wonder about the effect of thicker rimmed steering wheels?



    I went for the thicker steering wheel, but would not get it anymore. A waist of money to me, as , yes, there is a slightly better road feel with the thinner one . Also i not realy like the shape of the thick one in my hands. But then not enough to make one a worst or better driver , nor to make the driving experience so much different

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    I've had both and much prefer the thicker wheel, I get a better feel for the car, imo the more your fingers overlap the less feeling you're going to get. It's the same for me but even more important w/ motorcycle grips.

    But some guys have petite, cute little hands. For the girly men a thinner steering wheel is more appropriate as not to ruin their manicures. LoL!! Just kiding don't hang me for a bad joke!

    If you notice the majority of wheels on competitive race cars all tend to be on the thicker side & I'm pretty sure it's all about feel for these guys. For road cars I think it's a matter of personal preferance. Like regular seat vs Adaptive Sport Seats, Short Shifter vs stock, Coupe vs Cabrio. etc. IMO there's no right choice, they're just different depends what you like......Live & let live.

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    STRADALE said:

    If you notice the majority of wheels on competitive race cars all tend to be on the thicker side & I'm pretty sure it's all about feel for these guys.



    Interesting point. Perhaps it's got to do with fatigue? I mean you are getting slung around pretty violently in a race and anything they can do to keep you from wearing down would be good thing. That race car steering wheel is also getting knocked around and vibrating. Maybe thicker wheel contributes to better performance of driver?

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    Bingo, thicker steering wheels are less fatiguing to grip. I actually swapped out my steering wheel with the techart one because I loved the thicker M3 wheel I had before.

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    For me the thicker wheel in my 997 is far less tiring than the conventional wheel in the 996. On long drives is where I notice it most.

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    I prefer the thicker wheels, but I also have large hands. The right choice is what feels best to you and I wouldn't worry about what some article said regarding road feel, etc.

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    Roland997 said:
    I wouldn't worry about what some article said regarding road feel, etc.



    I'm not worried - I just think it's an interesting observation. It's all too easy to buy into the latest trend - like thicker wheels - and lose sight of the original objective.

    The writer (Chris Harris) is a well respected journalist who has written for most of the good car magazines. Autocar, Car, Evo, Top Gear, and has appeared on 5th Gear TV as well. He also races successfully, so I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

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    FWIW, I love the thicker Sports Steering Wheel in my Club Coupe--now when I drive a 997/Boxster/Cayman (as service loaners) without it, the stock wheel feels like it came out of a Nissan Sentra. This is my personal favorite interior option, currently available on the 997.

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    I have large hands (glove size 10.5). Anyway - I have in my bimmer one of those M-Steerings, which is a bit thicker. I like the feel. Whenever I wouldnt like it on the Porsche.

    Why not on the Porsche. Sometimes I take the Porsche on the track and sometimes I drive this hill-country roads with a bit drifting. I need to hold my steering strongly there and I might need to have this extra feel. Further on, on tracks I use racing gloves, which woldn't be possible with the thicker wheel.

    So I think both have its advantage. Maybe they should bring a ballon kind of steering, completly adjustable

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    Lars997 said:

    So I think both have its advantage. Maybe they should bring a ballon kind of steering, completly adjustable



    Haha! Good one Lars. Far fetched? No. Could have been the same way when somebody proposed Porsche Adaptive Sport Seats with pneumatic bolsters years ago.

    Would be funny if optional wheel _coverings_ become available; fake fur in _black_ (not red) would be my preference. (kidding)

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    Here's a pic of the new M3 plumper-wheel (bottom) compared to normal and thicker 911 wheels (top).

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    That middle wheel looks odd. My thicker rim sports wheel does not have the perforations @ 3 and 9 nor does it look that thick

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    Le Chef said:
    That middle wheel looks odd.



    Darn! Sorry..., I think you're right. I 'jacked the pic and it's file description isn't explicit. Now, I'm not sure which mfgr that middle wheel is from. Pretty sure it's on one of our own Rennteamers' cars though.

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    Awww Geez! I give up.

    Here's a "corrected" comp photo below?

    Somebody: let's see a _documented_ thicker wheel!

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    Okay, I think this is correct. Thin on top, thick on bottom.

    The round wheel center, which I wasn't too happy about when the 997 was introduced (a bunch of guys seemed to share that opinion), now gets a bit more in-your-face with the thicker version, IM_H_O.

     
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