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    Cabrera is coming...

    ...sooner that originally planned.

    New Cabrera is fully ready and could be introduced this autumn.

    Specs are excellent and LP600-4 name could tell you something.Or why Ferrari pushed 458 Speciale engine up(or even above) its mechanical limits(compression ration for 458 Speciale is 14:1)...Smiley

    According to my source Cabrera is faster then 991 Turbo S both in straight line and on the track.


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    Can't wait to see this one. I guess we can thank McLaren for raising the performance bar. indecision


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    KresoF1:

    ...sooner that originally planned.

    New Cabrera is fully ready and could be introduced this autumn.

    Specs are excellent and LP600-4 name could tell you something.Or why Ferrari pushed 458 Speciale engine up(or even above) its mechanical limits(compression ration for 458 Speciale is 14:1)...Smiley

    According to my source Cabrera is faster then 991 Turbo S both in straight line and on the track.

    I told you that there was an event with the Cabrera and the 991 Turbo S (and the next gen R8). Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    "Sooner" mean IAA?


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    RC:
    KresoF1:

    ...sooner that originally planned.

    New Cabrera is fully ready and could be introduced this autumn.

    Specs are excellent and LP600-4 name could tell you something.Or why Ferrari pushed 458 Speciale engine up(or even above) its mechanical limits(compression ration for 458 Speciale is 14:1)...Smiley

    According to my source Cabrera is faster then 991 Turbo S both in straight line and on the track.

    I told you that there was an event with the Cabrera and the 991 Turbo S (and the next gen R8). Smiley

    We already discussed Bolidentreffen event...Smiley

    Just, info that I got from that event is little bit different then the one you got.Smiley

    I already know almost 99% of specs and features of Cabrera and it is clearly a sportscar positioned above 991 Turbo S.

    Do not tkae me wrong here-991 turbo S ia an fantastic sportscar that can be used daily. BUT, Cabrera is even more fantastic IMHO...Smiley


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    These pics have been on the net for quite some time, but even on Lambopower there's not much info about the final specs. I just hope they keep the Cabrera far from the Batman kind of look seen on the Sesto Elemento, I really like the LP 560, even compared with 458 and Mclaren it still look better.

    Kreso why don't you share with us the Cabrera specs, I suppose something like 620Hp can be expected !

    J.Seven


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    This car has the potential of catapulting Lamborghini into a dominate position over Ferrari; however, Lamborghini has been there before and not succeeded.  No matter what happens, the component set for the new Lamborghini and the next Audi R8 should form the basic architecture for a new Porsche too.


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    This and the R8 will be amazing. I'll be replacing the McLaren with one of these in a few years most likely. That said, at what will no doubt be around $300K for the Lambo, I still think the McLaren is and will be the deal of the century for an exotic. 991 TTS is great too, but it's not exotic enough.

    That said, I'm concerned that the greenhouse looks too similar to the Gallardo. I don't want new bumpers, I want an entirely new body!


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    KresoF1:
    RC:
    KresoF1:

    ...sooner that originally planned.

    New Cabrera is fully ready and could be introduced this autumn.

    Specs are excellent and LP600-4 name could tell you something.Or why Ferrari pushed 458 Speciale engine up(or even above) its mechanical limits(compression ration for 458 Speciale is 14:1)...Smiley

    According to my source Cabrera is faster then 991 Turbo S both in straight line and on the track.

    I told you that there was an event with the Cabrera and the 991 Turbo S (and the next gen R8). Smiley

    We already discussed Bolidentreffen event...Smiley

    Just, info that I got from that event is little bit different then the one you got.Smiley

    I already know almost 99% of specs and features of Cabrera and it is clearly a sportscar positioned above 991 Turbo S.

    Do not tkae me wrong here-991 turbo S ia an fantastic sportscar that can be used daily. BUT, Cabrera is even more fantastic IMHO...Smiley

    Kreso F1, will next gen R8 be positioned upper or lower than 991 Turbo S? and how could atmospheric Cabrera be faster than 911 TTS in the straight line?


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    RC:
    KresoF1:

    ...sooner that originally planned.

    New Cabrera is fully ready and could be introduced this autumn.

    Specs are excellent and LP600-4 name could tell you something.Or why Ferrari pushed 458 Speciale engine up(or even above) its mechanical limits(compression ration for 458 Speciale is 14:1)...Smiley

    According to my source Cabrera is faster then 991 Turbo S both in straight line and on the track.

    I told you that there was an event with the Cabrera and the 991 Turbo S (and the next gen R8). Smiley

    What was the result of this event?


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    Artur,

    This was purely design featurea "silent# display comparison only. Porsche, Audi and Lambo personal did not drive all cars and compare accelerations, track time etc. They put them all together and compare them from marketing point of view.

    How can Cabrera be faster then 991 Turbo S? Well, it has more power and is lighter. Gear ratios are more power oriented(7th is power gear). Newly redesigned V10 is pretty special engine, both in power delivery and sound wise.

    Cabrera is positioned above 991 Turbo S. Performance, power and price wise. New R8 will be positioned more or less on 991 Turbo/Turbo S level.


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    Oh, 0-300Km/h for Cabrera should be the same as for MP4-12C or even little bit faster. I also heard that in 0-330km/h Cabrera is faster then MP4-12C...


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    KresoF1:

    Oh, 0-300Km/h for Cabrera should be the same as for MP4-12C or even little bit faster. I also heard that in 0-330km/h Cabrera is faster then MP4-12C...

    Well just  till the mp4 gets another power boost for free...

    and not to forget Cabrera must have a gap to the aventador witch is somewhere in 24 secs up to 300 km/h. Wonder what is the Real time of the 625 hp mp4 from 0-300kmh. I think sport Auto had the 600hp version on 31 secs with 2 persons


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    MP4-12C is great sportscar, but it is also so-called "work in progress"-as is/was GT-R. I would never buy one(MP4-12C) but, I respect it highly.


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    J.Seven:

    These pics have been on the net for quite some time, but even on Lambopower there's not much info about the final specs. I just hope they keep the Cabrera far from the Batman kind of look seen on the Sesto Elemento, I really like the LP 560, even compared with 458 and Mclaren it still look better.

    Kreso why don't you share with us the Cabrera specs, I suppose something like 620Hp can be expected !

    J.Seven

    The name of the car is already LP600-4.

    How can it be 620hp? Smiley


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    ONUR

    THE BEST CAR EVER smiley

    11 E92 M3 CP - 09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)

     


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    pride355:
    J.Seven:

    These pics have been on the net for quite some time, but even on Lambopower there's not much info about the final specs. I just hope they keep the Cabrera far from the Batman kind of look seen on the Sesto Elemento, I really like the LP 560, even compared with 458 and Mclaren it still look better.

    Kreso why don't you share with us the Cabrera specs, I suppose something like 620Hp can be expected !

    J.Seven

    The name of the car is already LP600-4.

    How can it be 620hp? Smiley


    Thanks Onur, I was just going to write the same. Smiley


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    J.Seven:

    These pics have been on the net for quite some time, but even on Lambopower there's not much info about the final specs. I just hope they keep the Cabrera far from the Batman kind of look seen on the Sesto Elemento, I really like the LP 560, even compared with 458 and Mclaren it still look better.

    Kreso why don't you share with us the Cabrera specs, I suppose something like 620Hp can be expected !

    J.Seven


    Correct, I remember I've seen them quite some time ago. And I agree with you regarding the design of the LP560, it still looks great, especially the pre-facelift version. Smiley


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


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    Dario:
    KresoF1:

    Oh, 0-300Km/h for Cabrera should be the same as for MP4-12C or even little bit faster. I also heard that in 0-330km/h Cabrera is faster then MP4-12C...

    Well just  till the mp4 gets another power boost for free...

    and not to forget Cabrera must have a gap to the aventador witch is somewhere in 24 secs up to 300 km/h. Wonder what is the Real time of the 625 hp mp4 from 0-300kmh. I think sport Auto had the 600hp version on 31 secs with 2 persons

    Gallardo doesn't need to be 'slower.' It's a myth that you can't trump your most expensive car with a cheaper one. HP will win at the very top end, but I recall the 560/550 being just as quick as the 640 for the most part.

    And just as before, people bought the 640 for the in your face flare. Huge car with doors that went up with a V12 and which was more expensive and therefor less common. Even if the new Gallardo is just as good or better, and it probably will be, the Aventdor will still probably be cooler and more desirable. Gallardo will be cheaper and in higher production numbers as well.

     


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    KresoF1:

    Oh, 0-300Km/h for Cabrera should be the same as for MP4-12C or even little bit faster. I also heard that in 0-330km/h Cabrera is faster then MP4-12C...

    very interesting. Look like about 27 secs for 0-300)) will we see it this year?


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    On the web maybe... Official intro is Geneva 2014.


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    I feel it will be very - very interesing car:)


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    Many new spy pics here, still quite some camouflage:
    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/erlkoenig-lamborghini-cabrera-weltexklusive-fotos-vom-gallardo-nachfolger-3816178.html



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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


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    Rossi:

    Many new spy pics here, still quite some camouflage:
    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/erlkoenig-lamborghini-cabrera-weltexklusive-fotos-vom-gallardo-nachfolger-3816178.html



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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

    Rear vents are redolent of the Muira.  This car has the potential to very exciting.


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    Looks very promising 

    J.Seven


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    noone1:
    Dario:
    KresoF1:

    Oh, 0-300Km/h for Cabrera should be the same as for MP4-12C or even little bit faster. I also heard that in 0-330km/h Cabrera is faster then MP4-12C...

    Well just  till the mp4 gets another power boost for free...

    and not to forget Cabrera must have a gap to the aventador witch is somewhere in 24 secs up to 300 km/h. Wonder what is the Real time of the 625 hp mp4 from 0-300kmh. I think sport Auto had the 600hp version on 31 secs with 2 persons

    Gallardo doesn't need to be 'slower.' It's a myth that you can't trump your most expensive car with a cheaper one. HP will win at the very top end, but I recall the 560/550 being just as quick as the 640 for the most part.

    And just as before, people bought the 640 for the in your face flare. Huge car with doors that went up with a V12 and which was more expensive and therefor less common. Even if the new Gallardo is just as good or better, and it probably will be, the Aventdor will still probably be cooler and more desirable. Gallardo will be cheaper and in higher production numbers as well.

     

    Aventador will probably get a boost by the time the Cabrera is on sale. A la LP 800-4.


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    The only "problem" of the Cabrera is the exotic look, it will appeal to a different customer group than Porsche, mainly outside Europe. Of course the Aventador gets a performance overhaul, should be getting interesting.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    VW are very clever with their product positioning because they cover all segments very well.

    Porsche 911 for performance and usability and traffic blending looks.

    Audi R8, performance and usability but for the more extrovert customer.

    Cabrera, exotic looks and all that go with it. An alternative to the junior Ferrari.

    Aventador, super exotic for the very few

    The only problem is that since they cannot find a niche for a car like the 960, we won't see a Porsche in the junior suoercar class.

     


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    The 960 will indeed have some issues fitting in, so maybe it gets a more conservative look with a less exotic car vibe but it is also possible that the 960 will be the more "raw" and less luxurious ride, which would make sense from a marketing point of view. It is also possible to "position" a 960 by an exaggerated price tag and superior performance in the over 250k price class.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    Already can imagine those 25 year old boys from the UAE driving around in Mayfair London with it angry


    Re: Cabrera is coming...

    KresoF1:

    Oh, 0-300Km/h for Cabrera should be the same as for MP4-12C or even little bit faster. I also heard that in 0-330km/h Cabrera is faster then MP4-12C...

    KresoF1, could you pls specify what the price of Cabrera will be comparing to Turbo S? Will it be much higher or just some higher?


     
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