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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Porker:
    Whoopsy:

    Nah, I am too low key for him haha

    You, low key? Smiley

     

    Don't be fooled by the colour choices on the last few cars Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    interesting Speedtail review and comparisons to the F1

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mclaren/speedtail/first-drives/mclaren-speedtail-2020-uk-review


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    I agree with him on the looks, it's brilliant.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Porker:

    I agree with him on the looks, it's brilliant.

    Speaking of the Speedtail: Muc Collector Jr. (the guy with less taste than his father Smiley, forgot to mention that there is a younger version of Muc Collector as well) spent some time with the Speedtail in Hockenheim a few days ago.

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    Also interesting what Muc Collector Jr. has to say about the Huracan Performante (keep in mind that he has access to all those amazing cars his father owns):

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    Oh well... Smiley

    I know, we don't have taste. Smiley


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    RC:
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    Car looks great - but only from this angle Smiley The rear would be a no-go for me...


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    RC:

    Also interesting what Muc Collector Jr. has to say about the Huracan Performante (keep in mind that he has access to all those amazing cars his father owns):

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    4WD for one car? for sure.

    for a sportscar or a supercar, definitely not Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Have you driven one? Smiley Many people think this is a regular Huracan with some wing attached to it. Couldn't be further away from the truth and even the standard Huracan (not Evo) is already a great car. The only reason is didn't throw the GT3 RS off the track lover's throne is the lack of head room and proper six point harness install. Also, lately, the car is way too loud for most tracks, which is unfortunate. 


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    and it it tooooooo expensive for track use... the maintenance (brakes, ...) are crazy 


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    RC:

    Have you driven one? Smiley Many people think this is a regular Huracan with some wing attached to it. Couldn't be further away from the truth and even the standard Huracan (not Evo) is already a great car. The only reason is didn't throw the GT3 RS off the track lover's throne is the lack of head room and proper six point harness install. Also, lately, the car is way too loud for most tracks, which is unfortunate. 

     

    Yes, driven. I understand the 4WD appeal but I don’t like it. 
    on negative point, I would add these terrible rock solid seats yes

    Taking the throne of the 3RS is only possible if the huracan becomes more hardcore but also more cost effective. Carbon brakes by steel options for instance. 

     

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Dane:

    and it it tooooooo expensive for track use... the maintenance (brakes, ...) are crazy 


    sorry mail

    and it is tooooooo expensive for track use... the maintenance costs (brakes, ...) are crazy 


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    the-missile:
    RC:

    Have you driven one? Smiley Many people think this is a regular Huracan with some wing attached to it. Couldn't be further away from the truth and even the standard Huracan (not Evo) is already a great car. The only reason is didn't throw the GT3 RS off the track lover's throne is the lack of head room and proper six point harness install. Also, lately, the car is way too loud for most tracks, which is unfortunate. 

     

    Yes, driven. I understand the 4WD appeal but I don’t like it. 
    on negative point, I would add these terrible rock solid seats yes

    Taking the throne of the 3RS is only possible if the huracan becomes more hardcore but also more cost effective. Carbon brakes by steel options for instance. 

     

     

    That said, really can't complain about the PCCB's, they've taken a beating, but aside from pads hasn't cost me anything over 35k km.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    PCCB are pretty indestructible. With a surface hardness that's close to a diamond, nothing can scratch it, if a pebble or something got caught between the rotor and pad, it will just be grounded down to dust, or if it's between the wheel and the brake rotor, then a deep gouge on the wheel barrel. 

    The only weakness on a PCCB system is the rotor hat. PCCB has a much higher heat capacity than steel rotors so a lot more heat is absorbed in the system, the hat is the weak spot and with enough heat it will warp. Happened to my 918 twice. Also happened to the 'press' cars for the Panamera turbo S launch. A few Porsche drivers that will remained un-named were hot lapping the car the day before for fun, warping all the rotors. There was no time left to change them out so when the press finally drove them, the brakes were let's say having a bit of vibrations. It was explained as 'pre-production' teething issue.............

    Can't comment on other brand's carbon disc quality though.
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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Porker:
     

    That said, really can't complain about the PCCB's, they've taken a beating, but aside from pads hasn't cost me anything over 35k km.

    No one complains about PCCB's till they receive 20Ke bill to replace the front rotors Smiley

    you can't see the rotor wear except if you play with the fancy tool which measure carbon %. New set of pads will wear faster as there is already carbon transferred to the rotor from the previous one.

    all in all, if you compare cost/longevity of one against the others, there is no advantage to PCCB's.

    We have a fleet of GTs here where we can compare all sort of stuff apart from our lap times Smiley and believe me this brake subject is one of the favorite.

    PCCB's is great is you can absorb the operating cost. Track hobby is already expensive enough to add this factor in.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    If you are not on a track often then the PCCB are great. 


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Leawood911:

    If you are not on a track often then the PCCB are great. 

    if you do not track often, PCCB is the way to go. Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    PCCB is an amazing option, even for casual(!) track racing. 

    I love the brake feel of ceramic brake systems, only the one in my E63 S wasn't that great (compared to PCCB or the system in my Performante or even R8).


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Breaking news, so McLaren is now partially saved by oil money, they just signed a deal with Gulf Oil, covering the F1 team and road car side of the company.

     

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Good news! McLaren has pressured everyone into making better cars, glad this can continue a little longer.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    lots of history between Gulf and Mclaren so great to see them come together like this!


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Merchandise will fly off the shelves kiss


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    mcdelaug:

    Good news! McLaren has pressured everyone into making better cars, glad this can continue a little longer.

    Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    BjoernB:

    Merchandise will fly off the shelves kiss

    Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    mcdelaug:

    Good news! McLaren has pressured everyone into making better cars, glad this can continue a little longer.

    +1


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Oh God, now there will be even more of these ghastly Gulf racing colour schemes on cars, bad enough with all the Porsches painted this way.... 

    on another note, was that gravel gas station in rural Poland the only place they could find for the announcement photoshoot??  


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFMYJDZTiy0

    kiss


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    great video


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    4trac:

    on another note, was that gravel gas station in rural Poland the only place they could find for the announcement photoshoot??  

    Smiley


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Enmanuel:
    4trac:

    on another note, was that gravel gas station in rural Poland the only place they could find for the announcement photoshoot??  

    Smiley

     

    Oh come on, illicit money transfers always happens in seedy area Smiley


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