CloseMar 1, 2011 11:54:18 PM
I hate these teasers... 
The 1M teasers were annoying too but apparently BMW does it allover again with the M5 this time.
Soon we will see a half camouflaged car and... 
I hate it.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
RC you are 100% correct. I say if you are going to show it then show it, otherwise its a waste of our time. I understand that they do it to build up a hype but we probably wont see the final product for at least another 3-4 months
Mar 4, 2011 3:57:32 PM
RC:
I hate these teasers...
The 1M teasers were annoying too but apparently BMW does it allover again with the M5 this time.
Soon we will see a half camouflaged car and...
I hate it.
These teasers pisses me off too 
Mar 4, 2011 5:34:25 PM
Ron (Houston):
RC:
I hate these teasers...
The 1M teasers were annoying too but apparently BMW does it allover again with the M5 this time.
Soon we will see a half camouflaged car and...
I hate it.
These teasers pisses me off too
+1
So annoying! 
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Mar 4, 2011 6:51:55 PM
Mar 4, 2011 7:21:51 PM
Mar 5, 2011 4:32:45 PM
JoeRockhead:
Targa Tim:
if the new M5 cannot match the Panamera turbo in performance, then they don't even need to announce it.
I don't think that will be a problem.
Sub 4 sec 0-60? No I don't think so. M5 will not be as fast as the Panamera Turbo.
Mar 6, 2011 1:01:30 AM
4.2 will be amazing figure for the new M5. Nonetheless, im worried about that V8 TT setup.
I already miss that V10 of the past. One guy in town runs it with straight pipes.. it's just stupid! (awesome) 
indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine.. I happen to like both :)
Mar 6, 2011 7:49:32 AM
Lars997:
I wouldnt mind the V8 as I know that the torque is much better. The evolution shows, that 2 cylinder less are more efficient. Unfortunately the sound is a bit worse, but come on a V8 sounds great anyway!
This is supposed to be a sportscar. Low down torque is for trucks. 
REALZEUS:
Lars997:
I wouldnt mind the V8 as I know that the torque is much better. The evolution shows, that 2 cylinder less are more efficient. Unfortunately the sound is a bit worse, but come on a V8 sounds great anyway!
This is supposed to be a sportscar. Low down torque is for trucks.
A sedan can be a sports car? I would never drive a M5 on the race track, I would feel ridiculous. The M5 is a sports sedan, not a sports car. This doesn't mean the M5 is something bad, on the contrary, it will be a fascinating product...just not a sports car.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Mar 6, 2011 10:32:41 PM
Targa Tim:
if the new M5 cannot match the Panamera turbo in performance, then they don't even need to announce it.
+100
...and GTR, as a next even more economical 4-seater...
IMHO this car has lost it's position in a universe 8years ago with the new stupid corporate direction for more luxury, than sport, useless "no usable low torque/hi rev hp only" oriented trany/v10engine implementation approach. It's really useless in a real city living/driving and etc... I guess, BMW AG executives don't drive M5s in the cities, but only on the long extremely straight, lonely highways... 
...in that 4-seater segment M3 is the only decent car left and the last car, least affected by dumb corporate BMW AG experimentation.
OZRacing
REALZEUS:
Lars997:
I wouldnt mind the V8 as I know that the torque is much better. The evolution shows, that 2 cylinder less are more efficient. Unfortunately the sound is a bit worse, but come on a V8 sounds great anyway!
This is supposed to be a sportscar. Low down torque is for trucks.
What's not to like about low-end torque? Don't you like exploding out of corners and rocketing down the straight to the next turn?
Or did you prefer waiting forever for the revs to build up to where the power is half way down the straight then have to break again for the next turn while other cars zoom by you at high speed?
Mar 7, 2011 1:06:13 AM
Mar 7, 2011 2:40:45 PM
Whoopsy:
JoeRockhead:
Targa Tim:
if the new M5 cannot match the Panamera turbo in performance, then they don't even need to announce it.
I don't think that will be a problem.
Sub 4 sec 0-60? No I don't think so. M5 will not be as fast as the Panamera Turbo.
Current M5 has been timed at 4.1, so I don't think sub 4 is a big stretch. And now with twin turbos it will have more torque too.
Mar 7, 2011 3:11:06 PM
As far as I heard, BMW tried to use the Panamera Turbo as a benchmark, similar to the X5/X6 M and the Cayenne Turbo (the X5/X6 M was supposed to be faster than the top model Cayenne, the Turbo S, at that time and it was). So the new BMW M5 should be slightly faster than the Panamera Turbo but I suppose the Panamera Turbo S will beat the M5 again. Circle of life... 
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Whoopsy:
REALZEUS:
Lars997:
I wouldnt mind the V8 as I know that the torque is much better. The evolution shows, that 2 cylinder less are more efficient. Unfortunately the sound is a bit worse, but come on a V8 sounds great anyway!
This is supposed to be a sportscar. Low down torque is for trucks.
What's not to like about low-end torque? Don't you like exploding out of corners and rocketing down the straight to the next turn?
Or did you prefer waiting forever for the revs to build up to where the power is half way down the straight then have to break again for the next turn while other cars zoom by you at high speed?
Since when do you have to wait forever for the revs to build in an M5, not to mention other NA sports cars? 
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Mar 18, 2011 8:11:28 AM
JoeRockhead:
Whoopsy:
JoeRockhead:
Targa Tim:
if the new M5 cannot match the Panamera turbo in performance, then they don't even need to announce it.
I don't think that will be a problem.
Sub 4 sec 0-60? No I don't think so. M5 will not be as fast as the Panamera Turbo.
Current M5 has been timed at 4.1, so I don't think sub 4 is a big stretch. And now with twin turbos it will have more torque too.
Expect about 4.3 sec 0 - 100 km/h.. and about 560 hp, 680 - 700 Nm, new LSD, 7-speed DCT
reginos:
RC:
Latest rumor(from a second grade source though): 580 hp and automatic tranny(DCT will be released later).
What weight do these HP have to carry?
Good question. The more reliable source indicated "over" 2 tons. Surprise, surprise...I guess.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
REALZEUS:
Since when do you have to wait forever for the revs to build in an M5, not to mention other NA sports cars?
It's just a simple matter of engine architecture, all high revving NA engine has the same deficit, they don't make much power lower in the rev range, they are all tuned to deliver power higher in the rev range, most if not all of the great NA engine don't make power until at least 4k-5k rpm.
Even the current V10 M5 suffers the same fate with the 5L engine, drive a M5 and a CLS55 back to back and you will see how the M5 is lack the instant low end power of the CLS.
That's one of the reason BMW is going the Turbo route, boasting low end power while retaining absolute power output, I would expect the new M5 engine to be a gem in delivering explosive power up and down the rev range like the engine in the X5/6M.
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