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    Re: 992 GT3

    Can someone make a 3 min summary videos of all the above ones combined  , thanks smiley


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    Grant:
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    In the German event they had the manual gearbox car and sets of cup2 R

    In which video did they have Manual?  I saw paddle shifting in all the videos that I watched...

    This one

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7_xZf-vsOs


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    Grant:
    xpto:

    In the German event they had the manual gearbox car and sets of cup2 R

    In which video did they have Manual?  I saw paddle shifting in all the videos that I watched...

    This one

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7_xZf-vsOs

    Ah, it starts with PDK then they have Manual in second half Smiley


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    Any interesting points made in the non-English vids?


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    Gnil:

    Can someone make a 3 min summary videos of all the above ones combined  , thanks smiley

    Harris at the end of his review: "so its not a huge improvement in any single area, but when you look at all the individual aspects that are better, the cumulative effect... its just better car than the last one".      I think I could have written that about a year and a half ago.... Smiley


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    4trac:
    Gnil:

    Can someone make a 3 min summary videos of all the above ones combined  , thanks smiley

    Harris at the end of his review: "so its not a huge improvement in any single area, but when you look at all the individual aspects that are better, the cumulative effect... its just better car than the last one".      I think I could have written that about a year and a half ago.... Smiley

    It's exactly as I predicted. During the video, Harris uses the word "incremental" often. Track guys may get some additional benefit from this car but most won't.


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    If the issue is downforce, why not make the front lift system standard, add rear suspension lift, and use them to control ride height as a function of speed/downforce?

     


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    nberry:
    It's exactly as I predicted. During the video, Harris uses the word "incremental" often. Track guys may get some additional benefit from this car but most won't.

    That's the way GT cars always are.  What advantage on the road do you think you are experiencing with your 991.2 RS vs. the 991.1 RS?


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    Incremental and not very different? Depends on what video you watch. One video talks about it being a spectacular change. A huge leap beyond the previous generation. Question – are these cars really impossible to get? Is it a matter of dealer allocation, or simply intense  demand? Or all of the above?


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    Grant:
    xpto:

    In the German event they had the manual gearbox car and sets of cup2 R

    In which video did they have Manual?  I saw paddle shifting in all the videos that I watched...

    This one

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7_xZf-vsOs

    Ahhhh, kiss


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    KMM:

    If the issue is downforce, why not make the front lift system standard, add rear suspension lift, and use them to control ride height as a function of speed/downforce?

     

    The front axle lift pretty much disengages the springs (if you have ever driven over railroad tracks while lifted - no suspension to speak of).  It would need to be a very sophisticated suspension that could adapt to changing levels of downforce.  Nothing at all similar to the pneumatic or hydraulic lift systems currently fitted.


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    All those GT3’s and not a single one in white yet.


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    Topspeed:

    That really should not be on a GT3. If any car is above 'fake vents' it is that one. Smiley


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    That’s slightly disappointing to see…


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    That's very disappointing.... They could've made the rear less busy mail


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    AP911:

    That's very disappointing.... They could've made the rear less busy mail

    But it already looks so big and expansive - they needed something to break it up and make it look less bulbous (not that they succeeded so well).


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    Well the way they managed to keep the weight down is applaudable 

    I hope the mid cycle refresh brings a cleaner look.... Don't mind if it looks fat, just be proud of it indecision

    I think getting the winged version makes more sense with this iteration given all the advances they've achieved with the suspension and down force. 


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    On Bilsterberg racetrack it matches the GT3RS MR times with Lars Kern on the wheel - nuff said....


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    The car is unrivalled in its segment / price bracket. If I did not have a surfeit of 991s I would definitely get one despite its bulbous rear end.


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    While the performance increase is hard to make use of on the street the looks and tech set of car apart from what will soon be seen as ‘the old car’. Especially in areas where many of these cars tend to gather like the west coast. So for me - there is a lot more to go for here and also a risk of holding on to the old one.  It is not the last normally aspirated or anything. 


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    Most of the times the beautiful ones are the .2 versions


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    Leawood911:

    While the performance increase is hard to make use of on the street the looks and tech set of car apart from what will soon be seen as ‘the old car’. Especially in areas where many of these cars tend to gather like the west coast. So for me - there is a lot more to go for here and also a risk of holding on to the old one.  It is not the last normally aspirated or anything. 

    Agreed. I just prefer the shape of the 991.


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    Grant:
    nberry:
    It's exactly as I predicted. During the video, Harris uses the word "incremental" often. Track guys may get some additional benefit from this car but most won't.

    That's the way GT cars always are.  What advantage on the road do you think you are experiencing with your 991.2 RS vs. the 991.1 RS?

    Grant, that's why I went from a GT3 to a GT3RS. I never owned a RS before. Also, I thought the RS looked much more aggressive than the GT3. I expect that will be the case with the 992RS.Smiley


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    nberry:
    Also, I thought the RS looked much more aggressive than the GT3. I expect that will be the case with the 992RS.Smiley

    Yes, it will be more aggressive for sure.


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    The manual looks fun on the italian video and he stirs it well (sounds like quick shifts form the outside). I have only till end of next week before my build locks and Im still on the fence. The car is very track focussed which is fine as I have run my last few 991 GT3 mostly at the track. In this regard the PDK makes more sense. 

    Im one of the few no doubt that is excited that its the edgier car on the smaller tighter backroads (sounds lie its still very comfortable on the larger motorways and B roads). I found that as a back road driver the modern cars have become very clinical and I like something that keeps be awake and concentrating. I also dont like te way the GT3 has become a cafe racer so hopefully this iteration may close that down a bit.

    The Touring almost certainly sounds like it will be softened up. Which kills that option for me as Id be using it on the track. If they add rear seats and soften the springs and remove the aero then its not a GT3 anymore? Doesnt make alot of sense other than to sell more cars...

    I understand that the 991.2 GT3RS also has fake rear vents?

    Overall its very exciting but I wanted white and I cant see it. getting very tempted by Shark Blue. Not much time to make up my mind before my build locks, yikes!

     


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    Id love the see a video with the new steel rotors/hats and dimples?


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    "I understand that the 991.2 GT3RS also has fake rear vents?"

    They are not fake.


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    Admittedly I was told that by an owner and I havent seen it for myself. I gather from what he said they are blocked off from the rear (i.e. non functional).That may be the case with my GT3 too. Regardless. The grills in mine are a pain to clean. If non functional have been better if the grills simply werent there...


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    nberry:

    "I understand that the 991.2 GT3RS also has fake rear vents?"

    They are not fake.

    Actually they are.... They know many GT3RS users only care about the aggressive looksyes

    If you look behind the mesh on the rear vents, they are actually closed with a plastic.

    On the other hand, the 991.2 GT3 vents are real smiley


     
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