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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Every time I read TDF I think 'turbo diesel' 

    definitely not conjuring the right mental images..


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    DaveGordon:

    Every time I read TDF I think 'turbo diesel' 

    definitely not conjuring the right mental images..

    +1

    Disaster choice of name.


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    TDF Turbo Diesel Ferrari indecision


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    tasteless, everything... design, name...


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    DaveGordon:

    Every time I read TDF I think 'turbo diesel' 

    definitely not conjuring the right mental images..

    I have to say the turbo diesel reference had not come to mind. TDF to Ferraristi actually has a deep significance, but the mistake Ferrari have made is that it means nothing to the broader audience and for a company so steeped in "The Brand" that can't be right . Now we can't blame Luca either as he left with  the most ridiculous naming swan song of all with the Ferrari La Ferrari Smiley


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Oh boy, the general public can have lots of fun with the TDF initials.

    Too Damn Fuckedup

    Tastelessly Designed Ferrari

    are the first to pop up in my mind. 


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Tiny Dick Faggot

    Too Damn Fugly

    Tremendously Dick Focused

    Terrible Drive Ferrari

    Travestite Drives Ferrari

    Oh boy...Ferrari clearly didn't think this through. 


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    crayphile:
    DaveGordon:

    Every time I read TDF I think 'turbo diesel' 

    definitely not conjuring the right mental images..

    I have to say the turbo diesel reference had not come to mind. TDF to Ferraristi actually has a deep significance, but the mistake Ferrari have made is that it means nothing to the broader audience and for a company so steeped in "The Brand" that can't be right . Now we can't blame Luca either as he left with  the most ridiculous naming swan song of all with the Ferrari La Ferrari Smiley


    The problem is their preference for abbrevations if you ask me. They simply should have called it "Tour de France", as they should have given the "Speciale Aperta" its full name. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Tuner Designed Ferrari


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    JoeRockhead:

    Tuner Designed Ferrari

    Smiley SmileySmileySmileySmiley


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    i don't get. when porsche attaches east-LA-ghetto-type spoilers to their cars everyone here says 'great, another example of 'form follows function'. the F12 TdF has a relatively modest and good looking aero-kit and people come out with 'tuner designed ferrari' type comments. 


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    I like it ! frown


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    I'm team Ferrari all the way and I could care less about Porsche  but I gotta say they missed up big time on this one. 


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Too Dammned Fussy


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    i do not like the name but the car is just wonderful

     


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    pmarkow:

    i don't get. when porsche attaches east-LA-ghetto-type spoilers to their cars everyone here says 'great, another example of 'form follows function'. the F12 TdF has a relatively modest and good looking aero-kit and people come out with 'tuner designed ferrari' type comments. 

    Relative to what? Smiley I do think the car would look decent in black, or possibly red (maybe even TDF), but IMHO it's a bit over the top, even for Ferrari.

    I think my name is pretty catchy though. Smiley


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    pmarkow:

    i don't get. when porsche attaches east-LA-ghetto-type spoilers to their cars everyone here says 'great, another example of 'form follows function'. the F12 TdF has a relatively modest and good looking aero-kit and people come out with 'tuner designed ferrari' type comments. 

    If I had the money, I would get that F12 TdF in a heartbeat, make no mistake. Yes, the F12 base car looks more elegant but if I had the money to buy the TdF, I think I would be extrovert enough to not care about what other people may or may not think. The TdF is a bit borderline when it comes to design but I think it can actually be expected from such a car. Also, nobody needs to order this car in yellow ans if someone is afraid of the more ostentative looks, black would be a good color. Just saying...


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    JoeRockhead:

    Tuner Designed Ferrari

    That is the best one Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    RC:
    pmarkow:

    i don't get. when porsche attaches east-LA-ghetto-type spoilers to their cars everyone here says 'great, another example of 'form follows function'. the F12 TdF has a relatively modest and good looking aero-kit and people come out with 'tuner designed ferrari' type comments. 

    If I had the money, I would get that F12 TdF in a heartbeat, make no mistake. Yes, the F12 base car looks more elegant but if I had the money to buy the TdF, I think I would be extrovert enough to not care about what other people may or may not think. The TdF is a bit borderline when it comes to design but I think it can actually be expected from such a car. Also, nobody needs to order this car in yellow ans if someone is afraid of the more ostentative looks, black would be a good color. Just saying...

    unfortunately the money is not enough to get one.

    p


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    koko:

    I'm team Ferrari all the way and I could care less about Porsche  but I gotta say they missed up big time on this one. 

    Uh oh, if they've lost you.... short the stock.. Smiley


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    4trac:
    koko:

    I'm team Ferrari all the way and I could care less about Porsche  but I gotta say they missed up big time on this one. 

    Uh oh, if they've lost you.... short the stock.. Smiley

    No worries, my brothers and cousins will cover for me while I sit this one out Smiley


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    pmarkow:
    RC:
    pmarkow:

    i don't get. when porsche attaches east-LA-ghetto-type spoilers to their cars everyone here says 'great, another example of 'form follows function'. the F12 TdF has a relatively modest and good looking aero-kit and people come out with 'tuner designed ferrari' type comments. 

    If I had the money, I would get that F12 TdF in a heartbeat, make no mistake. Yes, the F12 base car looks more elegant but if I had the money to buy the TdF, I think I would be extrovert enough to not care about what other people may or may not think. The TdF is a bit borderline when it comes to design but I think it can actually be expected from such a car. Also, nobody needs to order this car in yellow ans if someone is afraid of the more ostentative looks, black would be a good color. Just saying...

    unfortunately the money is not enough to get one.

    p

    There are always ways but unfortunately not at MSRP. Same goes to the LaFerrari or the Speciale Aperta.


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Rear end looks awful IMO.


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    I really love this car, aggressive, muscular, exaggerated....


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

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    Is there a technical reason behind those vents on a front engine car?!

     


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    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    same as the RS in the front - Air vent from the Wheel reducing lift


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    Is Pininfarina involved in latest Ferrari creations? I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that their signature is no longer in Cavallino's models and Ferrari's design is now in charge of their own design departament. That said, imho Ferrari produced the ugliest cars of its history since they part ways with Pininfarina, including this Mansory F12 TDF; wrong move.


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    alexalex88:

    Is Pininfarina involved in latest Ferrari creations? I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that their signature is no longer in Cavallino's models and Ferrari's design is now in charge of their own design departament. That said, imho Ferrari produced the ugliest cars of its history since they part ways with Pininfarina, including this Mansory F12 TDF; wrong move.

    You are correct it is all in-house now. Would you include the LaFerrari in your ugliest cars in-history category - that was in house too?


    Re: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor

    noone1:

    Rear end looks awful IMO.

    This rear end photo reminds of the first spy shot when the F12 was about to be revealed - its a particlualry poor angle to shoot the car. When the final reveal came about it did not look anywhere as bad  - the same is true of the F12tdf.


     
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