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    Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Today I got the newest rumor regarding the future of the supercharged x55 engines. Apparently DC really wants to abandon the supercharger and go for a twin-turbo charged V8 engine instead. There were thoughts to offer a 6.0 V12 on the current E55/S55/SL55/CL55 models but apparently it would increase production cost. Giving the fact that the facelifted C-class and the new SLK get a normally aspirated V8 engine, the logical conclusion is to offer a bi-turbo charged version of that engine.
    I heard this rumor before and I think I posted it in an older post but I never really believed it.

    So I really think there is a good chance we see a bi-turbo charged V8 4-valve engine on the facelifted E55/SL55 by 2005, power is rumored to be in the 520-560 HP range.

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Man that sucks! i mean it rulez but i wanted to buy the car now.... and now i want TT with 520 560 hp.... does it mean that the car will be here end of 2004?

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Man that sucks! i mean it rulez but i wanted to buy the car now.... and now i want TT with 520 560 hp.... does it mean that the car will be here end of 2004?

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Oh Thank God, Torque is not lost!

    Well, bye bye V8 Kompressor....

    Hello...V8 Bi-Turbo .

    RC, will the 65's power be bunked up a notch? And the SLR's?

    And, ps, how are you finding depolying 800Nm of torque in the winter....?

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Oh Thank God, Torque is not lost!

    Well, bye bye V8 Kompressor....

    Hello...V8 Bi-Turbo .

    RC, will the 65's power be bunked up a notch? And the SLR's?

    And, ps, how are you finding depolying 800Nm of torque in the winter....?

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    RC's would be 700 Nm, I'm the one with 800 Nm!!!
    Oh, and I find it quite, ermmm, full of ESP!
    Fanch.
    PS: V8 TT sounds really good btw. New styling will be nice. If only the SL could have 300 kgs less...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    RC's would be 700 Nm, I'm the one with 800 Nm!!!
    Oh, and I find it quite, ermmm, full of ESP!
    Fanch.
    PS: V8 TT sounds really good btw. New styling will be nice. If only the SL could have 300 kgs less...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Mate, I think you'll find, your S600's probably pushing close to if not more than 900NM. Mercedes is for some reason heavily under-rating its powerplants.

    And as for a lighter MB, thats just wishful thinking...same with me, when I say 700bhp would be nice.


    ps, Don't floor your S600 in the winter! Especially when one tyre happens to be on a manhole cover...in the wet...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Mate, I think you'll find, your S600's probably pushing close to if not more than 900NM. Mercedes is for some reason heavily under-rating its powerplants.

    And as for a lighter MB, thats just wishful thinking...same with me, when I say 700bhp would be nice.


    ps, Don't floor your S600 in the winter! Especially when one tyre happens to be on a manhole cover...in the wet...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    What's german for turbo? Cause I'll miss the Kompressor on the sides of my car. My friends think I have an MB Kompressor.

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    What's german for turbo? Cause I'll miss the Kompressor on the sides of my car. My friends think I have an MB Kompressor.

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Texas911,

    I think the german word is Turbolader (Turbo Charger). Correct me anyone if I am wrong. Basically, they will probably just put Turbo in place of Kompressor like Porsche does on the 911 Turbo.

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Texas911,

    I think the german word is Turbolader (Turbo Charger). Correct me anyone if I am wrong. Basically, they will probably just put Turbo in place of Kompressor like Porsche does on the 911 Turbo.

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Quote:
    And the SLR's?



    good question -- hard to imagine merc/AMG continue building the kompressor-V8 for the next 6 years of the SLR's model cycle if they go for turbocharging for all other models... poor SLR residuals...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Quote:
    And the SLR's?



    good question -- hard to imagine merc/AMG continue building the kompressor-V8 for the next 6 years of the SLR's model cycle if they go for turbocharging for all other models... poor SLR residuals...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Thats not the only problem, in this day and age, when Mercedes started upping the HP ante 354-500-603, and now that other car manufacturers are also following, how can Mercedes make the SLR for 7 years, and NOT give it a power upgrade? Surely the only competitor to the SLR is AMG themselves...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    Thats not the only problem, in this day and age, when Mercedes started upping the HP ante 354-500-603, and now that other car manufacturers are also following, how can Mercedes make the SLR for 7 years, and NOT give it a power upgrade? Surely the only competitor to the SLR is AMG themselves...

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    right. "evo" magazine recently stated that "merc is stuck in a power race with itself". that hits the spot IMO.

    Re: Bye bye supercharger - welcome turbo charger?

    right. "evo" magazine recently stated that "merc is stuck in a power race with itself". that hits the spot IMO.

     
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