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    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    amazon said:
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    schmuy said:
    I got caught speeding last week. Sadly i was doubling the speedlimit in a 60km/hr zone. The police officer told me that i was facing a $480CAD fine, I'd loose my license, and I would be charged criminally for dangerous driving. He went back, ran my name and insurance, came back and told me to have a good day!!! I hope your experience will come out like mine.



    Who are you? Why did he let you go?



    i'm just a porsche loving university student which makes it hard to believe he let me go. It was in outside the city on country roads so it wasn't down "main street" which would be even more dangerous. I think he might have had an appointment or something cuz right after he let me go he turned around and drove the other way; Other than that i don't know why/how i got away with it.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    twin turbo said:
    boxterboy,have you any other points?. if not an early guilty plea ,should get you 5 points and a fine Pounds250? .good luck.



    No mate I have a clean licence.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    All this talk of 12 month bans etc is a load of crap.

    If you have a clean licence you will recieve either 5 points and a big fine or a ban of 1 month or 2 months. You only get banned for 12 months etc under the totting up procedure.

    Where you got caught will also determine your ban/fine etc. If it was leicestershire police you may be lucky as it is loughborugh courts that are reasonable lenient if you act sorry enough. Nottinghamshire courts are a lottery. the rest I have no idea about but basically they all vary a lot.

    As for how you were caught this is the interesting part. You need to get yourself on www.pepipoo.com and the expersts will help you and advise of the best lawyers if that is the route you wish to go down. I think that if they were genuinely too far back that you may have a good case of arguing that they could not possibly be accurate on their timing of you poassing each fixed point. However the experts on there will give you some real help.

    Anyway don't worry about it as there is nothing you can do about it until they issue court papers.

    I talked my way out of a 12 month ban after I gained 6 points while having 6 on my licence. So anything is possible.

    Good luck

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    A good few years ago I was VASCAR'd on the M5 at 107mph. I went to court, pleaded guilty, apologised and got a 2 week ban and a smallish fine. A guy appearing just before me argued his case not to be banned for doing 106mph - also in a Porsche. His brief suggested an onerous fine but with no ban. The bench stated that if he could afford an 'onerous fine' he could also afford someone to drive for him!!

    The upshot was - he received an onerous fine plus a 3 month ban!! Seems my humble approach was far better received than his or his brief's. FWIW

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    I second the advice on legal representation. This is the key, pay what it takes to get the right lawyer. Best of luck.
    By the way, where on the M1 where you stopped?

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    Not that I encourage speeding, but here in South America where I live we have plenty of open roads and no cops with speeding checks. There is one main road to the coast that ocassionally and during the weekend there is ONE cop with a X o K gun but very predictable. True there is hardly any P car around, most cars speed to max 140 kms hour. You are on your own.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    i got caught 108mph on m1 junction 2 and 3 right after the service station in october last year, with my road angel bleebing a bmw chasing up so i brake hard to slow down,

    they just show me that i caught 108mph on speed gun and will facing court and baned for few months but untill now i still hasnt recieve any letter or note to face court!?

    don know why!?

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    I second the advice on legal representation. This is the key, pay what it takes to get the right lawyer. Best of luck.
    By the way, where on the M1 where you stopped?

    I was actually on the A1M near Doncaster

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    bazza said:
    i got caught 108mph on m1 junction 2 and 3 right after the service station in october last year, with my road angel bleebing a bmw chasing up so i brake hard to slow down,

    they just show me that i caught 108mph on speed gun and will facing court and baned for few months but untill now i still hasnt recieve any letter or note to face court!?

    don know why!?



    Bazza, keep everything crossed, once it's gone 6months from offence you're a free man. They have to summons you within 6months of the offence, if it's outside that and they still summons you it's fun to go along to court, point out that it's more than 6months and the JP's will wave you away scott free. However, in my experience it's quite common to get the summons just before the 6months are up.

    I got caught doing 83 in a 30 limit, and got off with 6points and a Pounds200 fine - Luckily i was driving my boring Rover 600 (they didn't read out in court that it was the Ti!) rather than my Norfolk Mustard V8 Esprit - otherwise I suspect the outcome may have been different!

    Ash

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)


    Not that I speed... Much! But..

    The advise of my UK solicitor. Is to ignore all speeding fines. Apparently quite a few either get lost, fall out of the system or just don't get followed up due to the huge quantities in the system.

    Judging from my experience (my best friend of course!) in a percentage of cases this advise is good and does actually pay off!!

    ...Add (nonamous)

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    madadd said:

    Not that I speed... Much! But..

    The advise of my UK solicitor. Is to ignore all speeding fines. Apparently quite a few either get lost, fall out of the system or just don't get followed up due to the huge quantities in the system.

    Judging from my experience (my best friend of course!) in a percentage of cases this advise is good and does actually pay off!!

    ...Add (nonamous)



    If it is a simple camera type offence I would agree but if stopped by the Police they just hear the case in yoru abscence and do you big style

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    I agree with JJB. I'd say get a good solicitor, a pleading letter from your employer and find a credible story as an excuse and for some sympathy. Ignoring it could land you in a whole lot more trouble. There, but for the grace of.....

    My biggest worry in the UK is getting caught in my car or on my bike. I'm glad you were doing less than 120. Some bike guys have gone to jail just for speeding....

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    How far behind you were they? Could YOUR car be positively ID'ed on the video? Did you disappear out of sight at any point? Did the give you a NIP when they stopped you? Were you positively ID'd.

    Be careful with lawyers, for every Nick Freeman there are 10 others who will happily take your money and do sweet FA(this includes some who advertise themselves as motoring specialists in the yellow pages).

    At 118 expect a 6 month ban and a fine.

    You have two choices,

    1 - go to court, eat humble pie, say your sorry, act weak and poor, grovel and hope for a short ban and small fine. Magistrates are like school teachers, they LOVE it when you grovel and act all weak. They HATE it when you challenge the system or act like a smart ass.

    OR

    2 - challenge them and hope the CPS offer you 5 or 6 points and a small fine rather than take up court time. If you make out your're going to challenge them on every point they may do this to save PoundsPoundsPoundsPounds. However, if they don't and you fight them hard and lose, expect a longer ban/bigger fine.

    WHATEVER YOU DO, DON"T BRAG YOU HAVE A LOT OF CASH, BIG HOUSE etc to the magistrate, they'll nail your ass x2 for this. If found guilty they'll ask you how much you earn, your mortgage payments, house value. Make out you are one rung away from bankrupcy.

    If you want some more exact info, PM me.

    And finally, be a bit more discreet, I wonder how many Boxsters have been stopped at 118mph on the M1 recently by a traffic car???

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    no court in athens they took my license for 3 months because i was speeding (240 km/h in athens oops sorry)

    20 days to go ..... waiting

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    sjn2004 said:
    How far behind you were they? Could YOUR car be positively ID'ed on the video? Did you disappear out of sight at any point? Did the give you a NIP when they stopped you? Were you positively ID'd.


    Be careful with lawyers, for every Nick Freeman there are 10 others who will happily take your money and do sweet FA(this includes some who advertise themselves as motoring specialists in the yellow pages).

    At 118 expect a 6 month ban and a fine.

    You have two choices,

    1 - go to court, eat humble pie, say your sorry, act weak and poor, grovel and hope for a short ban and small fine. Magistrates are like school teachers, they LOVE it when you grovel and act all weak. They HATE it when you challenge the system or act like a smart ass.

    OR

    2 - challenge them and hope the CPS offer you 5 or 6 points and a small fine rather than take up court time. If you make out your're going to challenge them on every point they may do this to save PoundsPoundsPoundsPounds. However, if they don't and you fight them hard and lose, expect a longer ban/bigger fine.

    WHATEVER YOU DO, DON"T BRAG YOU HAVE A LOT OF CASH, BIG HOUSE etc to the magistrate, they'll nail your ass x2 for this. If found guilty they'll ask you how much you earn, your mortgage payments, house value. Make out you are one rung away from bankrupcy.

    If you want some more exact info, PM me.

    And finally, be a bit more discreet, I wonder how many Boxsters have been stopped at 118mph on the M1 recently by a traffic car???



    They gave me no paper work. Just said I'd hear from the courts in due course. I may have gone out of sight too I'd have to see the video to make sure.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    sjn2004 said:
    WHATEVER YOU DO, DON"T BRAG YOU HAVE A LOT OF CASH, BIG HOUSE etc to the magistrate, they'll nail your ass x2 for this. If found guilty they'll ask you how much you earn, your mortgage payments, house value. Make out you are one rung away from bankrupcy.




    Completely agree with what sjn2004 has said.

    But just to add that, if you plead guilty, you'll have to fill in a 'means test' form BEFORE the case is heard. So take time to fill in this form and make sure it 'balances' to your advantage - it will be used to help determine the size of your fine.

    Also make sure you attend court in person and not have it heard in your absence. That way you can grovel more effectively and the magistrates will see that you're taking the offense seriously.

    Although you must seek professional advice, if you decide to plead guilty and throw yourself at the court's mercy, it is often quite beneficial to present your mitigating circumstances yourself and not via a solicitor. The Clerk will be more helpful to you as they are there to advise on precedures etc. You would also reduce your own legal costs and those claimed against you by the police.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    Boxsterboy, you didn't get anything when they stopped you? Normally they would give you some paper for a producer etc or to explain why they stopped you. Did you show them your photo licence by the roadside(so they ID'ed you as the driver)? They have to give you a NIP within 14days either verbally or in writing.

    If you went out of sight in the video, how do they know you were the same car that was speeding? Was visibility poor, or at night, making ID more difficult/less certain.

    It may take months before you hear from then again, had a friend, he'd almost forgotton about it then the summons turned up maybe 5 months after the event.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    Quote:
    sjn2004 said:
    How far behind you were they? Could YOUR car be positively ID'ed on the video? Did you disappear out of sight at any point? Did the give you a NIP when they stopped you? Were you positively ID'd.

    Be careful with lawyers, for every Nick Freeman there are 10 others who will happily take your money and do sweet FA(this includes some who advertise themselves as motoring specialists in the yellow pages).

    At 118 expect a 6 month ban and a fine.

    You have two choices,

    1 - go to court, eat humble pie, say your sorry, act weak and poor, grovel and hope for a short ban and small fine. Magistrates are like school teachers, they LOVE it when you grovel and act all weak. They HATE it when you challenge the system or act like a smart ass.

    OR

    2 - challenge them and hope the CPS offer you 5 or 6 points and a small fine rather than take up court time. If you make out your're going to challenge them on every point they may do this to save PoundsPoundsPoundsPounds. However, if they don't and you fight them hard and lose, expect a longer ban/bigger fine.

    WHATEVER YOU DO, DON"T BRAG YOU HAVE A LOT OF CASH, BIG HOUSE etc to the magistrate, they'll nail your ass x2 for this. If found guilty they'll ask you how much you earn, your mortgage payments, house value. Make out you are one rung away from bankrupcy.

    If you want some more exact info, PM me.

    And finally, be a bit more discreet, I wonder how many Boxsters have been stopped at 118mph on the M1 recently by a traffic car???



    What is it with people talking [censored] on here. You won't get banned for six months unless it was through totting up. A 30 or 60 day ban is all you get for that speed and thats only if you don't convince the mags that they should really just give you 6 points and a fine in your Oscar speech.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    This link outlines the penalties in the UK for speeding plus a list of case histories.

    http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/SpeedVSFines/SpeedVSFines.htm

    Not talking [censored]. If things have changed in the last year, I apologise in advance.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    130mph 70 M LADAR Instant no points, Pounds750 fine, Pounds35 costs, 2 month ban - -
    122.5mph 70 DC Mobile VASCAR Instant Pounds100 fine, Pounds50 costs, 21 day ban 42/M Yamaha RD350R
    122.5mph 70 DC Mobile VASCAR Instant Pounds200 fine, Pounds30 costs, 6 points 32/M Yamaha YZF750R
    120.0mph 70 DC VASCAR Instant Pounds200 fine, Pounds35 costs, 1 month ban 21/M Ford Fiesta RS1800i
    118.6mph 70 M VASCAR Instant Pounds250 fine, 28 day ban 24/M BMW 325i Convertable


    All of the above are 1 month bans as I have said several times.

    You only get a 12 month ban if it is under the totting up procedure.

    Its really quite simple.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    JJ you're not a journalist are you by any chance? You missed off a few from that list including,

    101mph 70 M Mobile Gatso Instant 1yr ban and retest.

    There were also a few others in that list from 3mths to 1 yr although the 1yr bans included a retest suggesting the individual had only passed their test recently.

    In the offence table on that site its states

    36+ over the limit = 1mth to 1 yr ban.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    sjn2004 said:
    This link outlines the penalties in the UK for speeding plus a list of case histories.

    http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/SpeedVSFines/SpeedVSFines.htm

    Not talking [censored]. If things have changed in the last year, I apologise in advance.



    Your link is an excellent point of reference.

    The whole site, when read in full, should prove invaluable when dealing with any speed related issues.

    Many thanks for posting.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    sjn2004 said:
    JJ you're not a journalist are you by any chance? You missed off a few from that list including,

    101mph 70 M Mobile Gatso Instant 1yr ban and retest.

    There were also a few others in that list from 3mths to 1 yr although the 1yr bans included a retest suggesting the individual had only passed their test recently.

    In the offence table on that site its states

    36+ over the limit = 1mth to 1 yr ban.



    Do you have trouble reading and comprehending English?

    You have stated that at 118mph it will be a 6 month ban. You are WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is only a 12month ban if you already have 6 points on your licence prior to this offence. In all other circumstances it will be no ban, a 30 day ban or a 60 day ban according to your luck on the day.

    Since the poster does not have 6 points already he won't get a 12 month ban.

    What the [censored] is so wrong with your intelligence that you can not comprehend this? Are you a moron?

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    Boxsterboy

    I can recommend Nick Freeman. He's not cheap but his record speaks for itself. By the way his first piece of advice is do nothing until you actually receieve the notice of intended prosecution. Quite often, as others have said here, they get lost in the post.

    Mr Freeman got me a case dismissed from being stopped on the M6 doing 116mph - my defence was duress.

    Cost me a couple of thousand pounds but well worth the ability to continue driving.

    If you want his contact details PM me.

    Good luck

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    Thanks senator! its reassuring to know

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

    Here are Nick Freeman's details from the Law Society's website...

    http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingand...mp;searchType=S

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    senator said:
    Boxsterboy

    I can recommend Nick Freeman. He's not cheap but his record speaks for itself. By the way his first piece of advice is do nothing until you actually receieve the notice of intended prosecution. Quite often, as others have said here, they get lost in the post.

    Mr Freeman got me a case dismissed from being stopped on the M6 doing 116mph - my defence was duress.

    Cost me a couple of thousand pounds but well worth the ability to continue driving.

    If you want his contact details PM me.

    Good luck



    A couple of thousand actually sounds good value knowing his
    ability to get people off. with his celebrity status I bet that fee is only going one way

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    997 Carrera said:
    I've not heard of filming and timing distance betw two points used here in the States, yet. Thus, I would be very skeptical about their process and tools to accurately measure the same car over 2.5 miles - sounds like a sting operation. Is this a regular route for you?



    Some states have been doing that for years. I got poped in Indiana in 1989 using that method.

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    JJBlade said:
    Quote:
    sjn2004 said:
    JJ you're not a journalist are you by any chance? You missed off a few from that list including,

    101mph 70 M Mobile Gatso Instant 1yr ban and retest.

    There were also a few others in that list from 3mths to 1 yr although the 1yr bans included a retest suggesting the individual had only passed their test recently.

    In the offence table on that site its states

    36+ over the limit = 1mth to 1 yr ban.



    Do you have trouble reading and comprehending English?

    You have stated that at 118mph it will be a 6 month ban. You are WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is only a 12month ban if you already have 6 points on your licence prior to this offence. In all other circumstances it will be no ban, a 30 day ban or a 60 day ban according to your luck on the day.

    Since the poster does not have 6 points already he won't get a 12 month ban.

    What the [censored] is so wrong with your intelligence that you can not comprehend this? Are you a moron?



    JJ you are being totally unfair - I hope you are never treated with such a lack of courtesy on this board!!

    This guy is quoting from a reliable source i.e.

    Offence ----------------------- Fine--- Costs-----Points
    up to 15mph over the posted limit Pounds44 Pounds30 3
    16mph to 25mph over the posted limit Pounds45-Pounds100 Pounds30 4
    26mph to 35mph over the posted limit Pounds45-Pounds200 Pounds30 5-6
    36mph or more over the posted limit Pounds67-Pounds300 Pounds30 -
    Ban 1 month to 12 months.

    What exactly are you quoting from?

    Re: Got caught speeding (uk)

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    John H said:
    Quote:
    JJBlade said:
    Quote:
    sjn2004 said:
    JJ you're not a journalist are you by any chance? You missed off a few from that list including,

    101mph 70 M Mobile Gatso Instant 1yr ban and retest.

    There were also a few others in that list from 3mths to 1 yr although the 1yr bans included a retest suggesting the individual had only passed their test recently.

    In the offence table on that site its states

    36+ over the limit = 1mth to 1 yr ban.



    Do you have trouble reading and comprehending English?

    You have stated that at 118mph it will be a 6 month ban. You are WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is only a 12month ban if you already have 6 points on your licence prior to this offence. In all other circumstances it will be no ban, a 30 day ban or a 60 day ban according to your luck on the day.

    Since the poster does not have 6 points already he won't get a 12 month ban.

    What the [censored] is so wrong with your intelligence that you can not comprehend this? Are you a moron?



    JJ you are being totally unfair - I hope you are never treated with such a lack of courtesy on this board!!

    This guy is quoting from a reliable source i.e.

    Offence ----------------------- Fine--- Costs-----Points
    up to 15mph over the posted limit Pounds44 Pounds30 3
    16mph to 25mph over the posted limit Pounds45-Pounds100 Pounds30 4
    26mph to 35mph over the posted limit Pounds45-Pounds200 Pounds30 5-6
    36mph or more over the posted limit Pounds67-Pounds300 Pounds30 -
    Ban 1 month to 12 months.

    What exactly are you quoting from?



    How am I being unfair?

    read the last part !!!

    36mph plus = ban 1 month to 12 month

    So how do they determine 1 month to 12 month?

    1 month or less is the normal punishment for 36mph + on a clean licence and a bit of grovelling.

    2 months is just a magistrate in a bad mood.

    12 months is for those WHO UNDER TOTTING UP REACH 12 POINTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Boxsterboy has been caught speeding at 36mph plus and assuming that he can be found guilty according to the evidence, will face a punishment between 0 ban and 12 months.

    Boxsterboy has already said in this thread that he has a 'clean licence'.

    THEREFORE HE CAN ONLY BE BANNED AT A MAXIMUM, 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By the way if you want any help, the Nick Freeman contribution and advice about representation together with my link to Pepipoo.com will be all you need. Idris Francis who is currently fighting a one man battle against this government and its puritanical ideals is a man that may well become a legend.

    Best of luck Boxsterboy as I and many of my friends have been caught at similar speeds and got away with it

    READ PEPIPOO.COM IF YOU WANT REAL ADVICE.

    Finally if anybody wants to say one more time the punishment will invlove a 6 month ban I will make a 0 bid at 3 market in months up to Pounds10,000. Should you accept we will exchange money on Betfair where I will get a market set up.

     
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