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    Re: Audi e-tron GT

    EV savvy people, especially from the Tesla side, will focus on miles charged per minute. 

    250 miles in a Plaid, that translate to how much charge needed? Are you calculating the 250 mile range from the EPA number? You do realize not a single Tesla ever matched their EPA rating right? So how will you know you put in 250 mile range from the plug?

    But that's not realistic as driving style, weather, temperature, gradient of the roads, equipment active onboard all affects the miles per kW figure. I can drive a Model 3, exactly the same as yours, and we will have completely different miles per kW rating. Your 250 miles will be different than my 250 miles. 

    The general public all uses a different metric, empty, half full, full, etc, so % of charge, kW per minute will be the most important metric to trying sell EV cars. Industry never caught onto the miles per minute charge metric, no one else other than Tesla uses it. Not even the new start up like Lucid and Rivian. Heck even Elon himself no longer mention it either. Car reviewers do mention it just so Tesla people can do the comparison instead of doing the math themselves however.

     


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    Re: Audi e-tron GT

    I will let everyone decide if miles per minute is important. To me it matters a lot. So does a well functioning autopilot system on the highway. 
    We can also drive the same Ferrari and our mileage would vary.  If it is all about how long you have to wait to charge before making it to the next charger. . When you are sitting there plotting your progress is all about miles.  To be blunt the Tesla might have a lower actual range than EPA gives the Porsche gets (relatively speaking)  but it is still many more miles which means it is hard for the competition to match the speed it takes it to gain distance or miles if you will.  Your argument  in this case is like when automakers would boast about a cars range when in reality they had twice the tank size. They did not want to talk about mileage. The other favorite was installing a tiny tank and bragging how little it cost to fill the tank.  Either discussion omitted actual miles per gallon in favor of tank size and all of us looking at such claims just laugh when we see them because we know how ICE cars work.  Too many here have not owned an EV so the FUD is easy. Unless I seem to point it out after which I would assume you get it or at least consider it. 
    in my humble opinion, again everyone can decide, but we have been using miles per gallon forever - no one would consider doubling the tank or enlarging the fuel nozzle to pump quicker a legit way to add miles per gallon. It does not. 

    I am not certain what Elon claims or if he no longer talks about miles per minute. I kind of doubt your reporting on that front. Most recently you claimed Tesla had a poor quarter and only profited due to carbon credits.  I looked at the numbers after that -  that was some way off reporting. They made massive profits all around. Look at the stock today. 
    cheers
     


    Re: Audi e-tron GT

    Ah, the 'bigger' battery.

    You forgot Tesla is the one with the bigger battery here? 100kWh in the Plaid without much reserve? Basically means using up the whole pack?

    The Mission-E cars on the other hand has a smaller battery at 93kWh with a big reserve?

    Who is the one with the bigger 'gas tank' again?


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    Re: Audi e-tron GT

    Leawood911:

    I will let everyone decide if miles per minute is important. To me it matters a lot. So does a well functioning autopilot system on the highway. 
    We can also drive the same Ferrari and our mileage would vary.  If it is all about how long you have to wait to charge before making it to the next charger. . When you are sitting there plotting your progress is all about miles.  To be blunt the Tesla might have a lower actual range than EPA gives the Porsche gets (relatively speaking)  but it is still many more miles which means it is hard for the competition to match the speed it takes it to gain distance or miles if you will.  Your argument  in this case is like when automakers would boast about a cars range when in reality they had twice the tank size. They did not want to talk about mileage. The other favorite was installing a tiny tank and bragging how little it cost to fill the tank.  Either discussion omitted actual miles per gallon in favor of tank size and all of us looking at such claims just laugh when we see them because we know how ICE cars work.  Too many here have not owned an EV so the FUD is easy. Unless I seem to point it out after which I would assume you get it or at least consider it. 
    in my humble opinion, again everyone can decide, but we have been using miles per gallon forever - no one would consider doubling the tank or enlarging the fuel nozzle to pump quicker a legit way to add miles per gallon. It does not. 

    I am not certain what Elon claims or if he no longer talks about miles per minute. I kind of doubt your reporting on that front. Most recently you claimed Tesla had a poor quarter and only profited due to carbon credits.  I looked at the numbers after that -  that was some way off reporting. They made massive profits all around. Look at the stock today. 
    cheers
     

    Have you driven and tested a Porsche Taycan or its near twin the Audi e-tron GT to make that comparison or are you just relying on your Tesla Model 3 experience?  


    Re: Audi e-tron GT

    Audi gassers still have some life left in them.  Road tested 2022 Audi RS3 sedan does 0-100 km/hr in 3.1 seconds as measured by the onboard timer.   https://www.motor1.com/news/543246/2022-audi-rs3-sedan-acceleration/

     


    Re: Audi e-tron GT

    CGX car nut:

    Audi gassers still have some life left in them.  Road tested 2022 Audi RS3 sedan does 0-100 km/hr in 3.1 seconds as measured by the onboard timer.   https://www.motor1.com/news/543246/2022-audi-rs3-sedan-acceleration/

     

    I saw that. What a cool car. 


     
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