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    Re: '09 Corvette ZR-1 revealed

    For the time being I like it very much !

    Z06, then the ZR-1 and the GT-R, seems like competition keeps getting tougher for Porsche ! (not to mention the R8 and the traditional Italian competitors).

    Re: '09 Corvette ZR-1 revealed

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    For the time being I like it very much !

    Z06, then the ZR-1 and the GT-R, seems like competition keeps getting tougher for Porsche ! (not to mention the R8 and the traditional Italian competitors).



    Precisely! Competition is great for all and the customers benefit.

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    JimFlat6 said:And dont be surprised if Corvette launches a second smaller model either.


    Jim - what are the odds that one of the new Vettes is mid-engined (rear mid that is)?



    One likely will be front engine and about the size the current Opel/Pontiac roadster and will offer a V8. They are installing the manufacturing machinery to build them now at their Bowling Green plant. It appears that Corvette intends to build a restyled/improved performance version of the Pontiac/Opel roadster for a second model.

    The next gen "standard size" Corvette could offer AWD even with a front/mid engine layout. They have the basic parts on the shelf from Cadillac to try it if they wanted to.

    I doubt they will build a rear mid engine Corvette unless they have plans for a third model to be positioned in a completely new to them $$$$$ price range.

    Corvette currently sells about 50,000 sports cars a year. A new second smaller Corvette model could grow that in the US and also get them some new brand positioning and sales in foreign markets also.

    A new small 435hp Corvette versus the Boxster/Z4 would be interesting for European shoppers Im sure.





    The Corvette would find a good reception in Europe just by improving interior materials and styling IMO. No need to produce a whole new model.



    Come one now. No matter what the Corvette does it will not be well recieved by many. I mean the Z06 laid down a time at the Ring 2cnd only to the Carerra GT at the time. It was faster than nearly everything but what kind of reception did it get here? The ZR1 will likely do the same. Decimate the competition just as they do at Le Mans. And how will it be recieved here? WIth the same predictable snobbery that american cars always get. Sure GM and Dodge could produce a car much better than any Lambo or Ferrari if hey wanted to. They have the resources but that's not their vision. They want their cars accesible to the average guy. And thank god for that. Those of us poor people who can only afford to buy sub 125K cars have a place to go for world beating, record smashing bad ass sports cars. I sold my Ferrari so I could drive my Z06 every day and not care and it was the best car move I have made.



    Really? I would have no reservations about buying a ZR-1 with the same interior quality as a Ferrari or a 997 with full leather. The Corvette is a great sports car and I don't think you'd get much kinder looks here by driving around in a Porsche .



    If that were true then why not spend 5-10K and throw out the stock interior. It's pretty easy to get a whole new interior with even better leather than Ferraris.

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    JimFlat6 said:And dont be surprised if Corvette launches a second smaller model either.


    Jim - what are the odds that one of the new Vettes is mid-engined (rear mid that is)?



    One likely will be front engine and about the size the current Opel/Pontiac roadster and will offer a V8. They are installing the manufacturing machinery to build them now at their Bowling Green plant. It appears that Corvette intends to build a restyled/improved performance version of the Pontiac/Opel roadster for a second model.

    The next gen "standard size" Corvette could offer AWD even with a front/mid engine layout. They have the basic parts on the shelf from Cadillac to try it if they wanted to.

    I doubt they will build a rear mid engine Corvette unless they have plans for a third model to be positioned in a completely new to them $$$$$ price range.

    Corvette currently sells about 50,000 sports cars a year. A new second smaller Corvette model could grow that in the US and also get them some new brand positioning and sales in foreign markets also.

    A new small 435hp Corvette versus the Boxster/Z4 would be interesting for European shoppers Im sure.





    The Corvette would find a good reception in Europe just by improving interior materials and styling IMO. No need to produce a whole new model.



    Come one now. No matter what the Corvette does it will not be well recieved by many. I mean the Z06 laid down a time at the Ring 2cnd only to the Carerra GT at the time. It was faster than nearly everything but what kind of reception did it get here? The ZR1 will likely do the same. Decimate the competition just as they do at Le Mans. And how will it be recieved here? WIth the same predictable snobbery that american cars always get. Sure GM and Dodge could produce a car much better than any Lambo or Ferrari if hey wanted to. They have the resources but that's not their vision. They want their cars accesible to the average guy. And thank god for that. Those of us poor people who can only afford to buy sub 125K cars have a place to go for world beating, record smashing bad ass sports cars. I sold my Ferrari so I could drive my Z06 every day and not care and it was the best car move I have made.



    Really? I would have no reservations about buying a ZR-1 with the same interior quality as a Ferrari or a 997 with full leather. The Corvette is a great sports car and I don't think you'd get much kinder looks here by driving around in a Porsche .



    If that were true then why not spend 5-10K and throw out the stock interior. It's pretty easy to get a whole new interior with even better leather than Ferraris.



    One caveat is that we don't get nearly as much aftermarket as you guys. So, do high-quality aftermarket pieces (buttons, vents, etc.) really exist for the Corvette?

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    JimFlat6 said:And dont be surprised if Corvette launches a second smaller model either.


    Jim - what are the odds that one of the new Vettes is mid-engined (rear mid that is)?



    One likely will be front engine and about the size the current Opel/Pontiac roadster and will offer a V8. They are installing the manufacturing machinery to build them now at their Bowling Green plant. It appears that Corvette intends to build a restyled/improved performance version of the Pontiac/Opel roadster for a second model.

    The next gen "standard size" Corvette could offer AWD even with a front/mid engine layout. They have the basic parts on the shelf from Cadillac to try it if they wanted to.

    I doubt they will build a rear mid engine Corvette unless they have plans for a third model to be positioned in a completely new to them $$$$$ price range.

    Corvette currently sells about 50,000 sports cars a year. A new second smaller Corvette model could grow that in the US and also get them some new brand positioning and sales in foreign markets also.

    A new small 435hp Corvette versus the Boxster/Z4 would be interesting for European shoppers Im sure.





    The Corvette would find a good reception in Europe just by improving interior materials and styling IMO. No need to produce a whole new model.



    Come one now. No matter what the Corvette does it will not be well recieved by many. I mean the Z06 laid down a time at the Ring 2cnd only to the Carerra GT at the time. It was faster than nearly everything but what kind of reception did it get here? The ZR1 will likely do the same. Decimate the competition just as they do at Le Mans. And how will it be recieved here? WIth the same predictable snobbery that american cars always get. Sure GM and Dodge could produce a car much better than any Lambo or Ferrari if hey wanted to. They have the resources but that's not their vision. They want their cars accesible to the average guy. And thank god for that. Those of us poor people who can only afford to buy sub 125K cars have a place to go for world beating, record smashing bad ass sports cars. I sold my Ferrari so I could drive my Z06 every day and not care and it was the best car move I have made.



    Really? I would have no reservations about buying a ZR-1 with the same interior quality as a Ferrari or a 997 with full leather. The Corvette is a great sports car and I don't think you'd get much kinder looks here by driving around in a Porsche .



    If that were true then why not spend 5-10K and throw out the stock interior. It's pretty easy to get a whole new interior with even better leather than Ferraris.



    One caveat is that we don't get nearly as much aftermarket as you guys. So, do high-quality aftermarket pieces (buttons, vents, etc.) really exist for the Corvette?


    That's a good question. I've seen just about everything else though.

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    JimFlat6 said:And dont be surprised if Corvette launches a second smaller model either.


    Jim - what are the odds that one of the new Vettes is mid-engined (rear mid that is)?



    One likely will be front engine and about the size the current Opel/Pontiac roadster and will offer a V8. They are installing the manufacturing machinery to build them now at their Bowling Green plant. It appears that Corvette intends to build a restyled/improved performance version of the Pontiac/Opel roadster for a second model.

    The next gen "standard size" Corvette could offer AWD even with a front/mid engine layout. They have the basic parts on the shelf from Cadillac to try it if they wanted to.

    I doubt they will build a rear mid engine Corvette unless they have plans for a third model to be positioned in a completely new to them $$$$$ price range.

    Corvette currently sells about 50,000 sports cars a year. A new second smaller Corvette model could grow that in the US and also get them some new brand positioning and sales in foreign markets also.

    A new small 435hp Corvette versus the Boxster/Z4 would be interesting for European shoppers Im sure.





    The Corvette would find a good reception in Europe just by improving interior materials and styling IMO. No need to produce a whole new model.



    Come one now. No matter what the Corvette does it will not be well recieved by many. I mean the Z06 laid down a time at the Ring 2cnd only to the Carerra GT at the time. It was faster than nearly everything but what kind of reception did it get here? The ZR1 will likely do the same. Decimate the competition just as they do at Le Mans. And how will it be recieved here? WIth the same predictable snobbery that american cars always get. Sure GM and Dodge could produce a car much better than any Lambo or Ferrari if hey wanted to. They have the resources but that's not their vision. They want their cars accesible to the average guy. And thank god for that. Those of us poor people who can only afford to buy sub 125K cars have a place to go for world beating, record smashing bad ass sports cars. I sold my Ferrari so I could drive my Z06 every day and not care and it was the best car move I have made.



    Really? I would have no reservations about buying a ZR-1 with the same interior quality as a Ferrari or a 997 with full leather. The Corvette is a great sports car and I don't think you'd get much kinder looks here by driving around in a Porsche .



    If that were true then why not spend 5-10K and throw out the stock interior. It's pretty easy to get a whole new interior with even better leather than Ferraris.



    One caveat is that we don't get nearly as much aftermarket as you guys. So, do high-quality aftermarket pieces (buttons, vents, etc.) really exist for the Corvette?


    That's a good question. I've seen just about everything else though.


    So why not hire some old (pre-Ford ownership) Aston Martin leather specialists to provide traditional european-style interior package for ZR1? Now that would be something, wouldn't it? "This powerful car is partly made in Europe", said GM spokesman for european car magazine editors at 'Ring early summer 2008...

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    So why not hire some old (pre-Ford ownership) Aston Martin leather specialists to provide traditional european-style interior package for ZR1? Now that would be something, wouldn't it? "This powerful car is partly made in Europe", said GM spokesman for european car magazine editors at 'Ring early summer 2008...



    They could if they wanted to but it's not their vision...

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    So why not hire some old (pre-Ford ownership) Aston Martin leather specialists to provide traditional european-style interior package for ZR1? Now that would be something, wouldn't it? "This powerful car is partly made in Europe", said GM spokesman for european car magazine editors at 'Ring early summer 2008...



    They could if they wanted to but it's not their vision...


    Yep, that's true. I guess it's mainly because GM leaves enough space for tuners like Lingenfelter, which concentrate solely on interior updates.

    Ok, enough jokes from me. I'll let others to continue. :-)

    Re: '09 Corvette ZR-1 revealed

    New vid. This car looks very stable in the turns and very fast.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7S7xbxuaXrA

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    Looks fast, sounds great.

    Re: '09 Corvette ZR-1 revealed

    Agreed.

    If I were to buy this car, though, the first thing I would do is get a CF cover replacement for the front hood clear SC/IC cover-I'm not into this cheesy, peak-a-boo, see-through, engine-tease cover fad so many sports car manufacturers are getting into.

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    The supercharged LS3 engine seems to be used in Cadillac's CTS-V sedan as well. So, based on one particular engine, they seem to build up a variety of models. Should make more economic sense than the previous two engine variants solely found in the C6 Corvette.



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    The Corvette would find a good reception in Europe just by improving interior materials and styling IMO. No need to produce a whole new model.



    I beg to differ. To me, the current Corvette doesn't hit the nail on the head as some other, well reputed cars. I won't mention any names but if you gather opinions from car enthusiasts all over the world you will probably find something else on top of the chart.

    The Corvette is, and I am surprised to say that about the current iteration, a typical American car. From stats and press reports I assumed the car to aim at European standards but it still has that typical flair attached to it. I just expected those cars to have a more versatile character. Considering that, we could discuss forever and still not find a common denominator. Why? Because some people appreciate such a car, just as they appreciate a giant T-bone steak, a trip to Disneyland and Las Vegas... and a Hollywood movie where you know the ending right from the beginning. There's nothing wrong with it, but don't expect everybody to follow that route.

    Wether the premium for a Porsche, Lamborghini or Ferrari is worth the money is up to everybody else. Surprisingly, Corvettes have been very fast in the past already, so that's nothing new. You can experience a varicoloured character in these cars that, unfortunately, so far no Corvette has given to me. On top of that, those exclusive brands buy you into a sort of status that a Corvette doesn't.

    However, buy whatever suits your needs and brings joy in your life!

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    Nice car but as I stated before, a Corvette is too much pimp for Germany. Driving this people think you opend a strip-club. Unfortunatly, I think its hell of a car for that price!

     
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