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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    Great to see the Porsche 918 Spyder's V8 motor is based on the race-developed 3.4-litre engine in the RS Spyder, generating over 500bhp with a 9,200rpm red-line...

    Innovative powertrain combines race-bred V8 engine with electric drive

    "This open two-seater is powered by a high-revving V8 developing more than 500 horsepower and a maximum engine speed of 9,200 rpm – as well as electric motors on the front and rear axle with overall mechanical output of 218 horsepower (160 kW).

    The V8 combustion engine is the next step in the evolution of the highly successful 3.4-liter power unit already featured in the RS Spyder racing car and positioned mid-ship, in front of the rear axle, giving the car excellent balance and the right set-up for supreme performance on the race track.

    Power is transmitted to the wheels by a seven-speed Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (PDK) transmission that feeds the power of the electric drive system to the rear axle. The front-wheel electric drive powers the wheels through a fixed transmission ratio.

    The energy reservoir is a fluid-cooled lithium-ion battery positioned behind the passenger cell. The big advantage of a plug-in hybrid is that the battery can be charged on the regular electrical network. A further point is that the car's kinetic energy is converted into electrical energy fed into the battery when applying the brakes, thus providing additional energy for fast and dynamic acceleration."

    ...look forward to seeing Chris Harris drive the new Porsche 918 Spyder!

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Porsche really knows how to push my buttons


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    2005 Carrera GT - Signal Yellow + 2008 Tesla Roadster - Thunder Gray +1972 BMW 3.0 CSi - Nachtblau +2009 Bentley Arnage T - Black Saphire


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    KresoF1:
    Ron (Houston):

    Now, this is called a beautiful design Smiley Smiley Smiley.


    It seems to me that I am the only one here who thinks that 918 is not a very nice design at all...Smiley

    Spyker had a sex with CGT while using some Talidomid= new 918...Smiley

    Interior? Mclaren MP4-12C + CGT + Ferrari inspired steering wheel...

    It is IMHO the worst Porsche design in last 20 years.

     

    You are not alone.

    Side profile is pure Ferrari, 360,430.

    Front 1/3 is also Ferrari, especially the mesh grills on the front bumpers.

    Inside is just an update to the CGT interior, removing the ugly ugly wood knob with electronics.

    Engine cover is straight from the CGT parts bin it seems.

    Rear lights are pure Audi, but the overall rear design looks like a botched design from tuners like Gemballa or something.

    What's with the ugly rear on current Porsches? First with Panamera, then the new Cayenne and now this?

     


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    the design remind me of the maseratti birdcage in the front, I like it, it looks sweet, oh and i seriusly doupt the consuption and co2 stats as being when the car is pushed toits fullest example making a lap time, its more likely those are spec for driving it on a free way ap 80kmph in last gear with the battery fully charged , or under some other optimal cnitons, also the weight is high for the next gen supercar,


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    This could be the car that pulls me back to porsche.  The Carrera GT took 4 years from concept to production, will this be any different?  And I'm guessing there won't be a 6-speed option unfortunately :(


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    pjd:

    I  L-O-V-E  P-O-R-S-C-H-E

     
    +1 Smiley This car is simply gorgeous Smiley


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    Wow 3L/100 km combined with electric! and the car has a V8 power unit delivering more than 500 hp?

    Well the V8 must be used only for the sound stage than, right!


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    With these more than perfect benchmarks announced by Porsche (minimum power, max weight, 0-100km/h, NS lap time and mainly... innovations...); Porsche are once again in a league of its own!!!

    Congrats Porsche and all the hardcore fans of this historic brand!

    P.S. I haven't been more excited about cars, since 1999 and the CGT concept...


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    I'm in love! Smiley

    Drop dead gorgeous!

    Well done Porsche! Bring it on!

     


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    Wow what a car !!!

    I feel another Letter of Intent coming on !!!

    Not only is it beautiful, but it is a technical marvel..  


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    I LOVE it !! 


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    Will they make it in Right Hand Drive though??????


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    Wow, the usual aftermkt didn't even dare create any " body kits " for the C-GT as" interesting "as this .

    Love child of a C-GT/Ferrari California/Lotus Elise drunken three-way :

     


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    I love everything but the wheels. Can't wait to hear the RS spyder engine in street trim!


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

     This car I will buy.  I did not see an estimated price and I hope they price it right.

    I just hope they put it into production before I die.

    Kreso, styling compromises must be made for hybrid cars and to find one styled similar to the CGT is a bonus.


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

     Looks absolutely fantastic, the engine and spec is a bonus.


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    OMG great surprise, i cannot believe they managed to test this without me sketching concepts for it haha.

    What a great innovation from Porsche, the car is a beauty. Though very busy, but you guys have to remember it's a concept, so obviously full of future design cues. The actual 918 won't maybe even get that name or the design. It will be watered down, as always! 

    Evenso, it will be an amazing machine. 4 driving modes, up to 94MPG and pure sexiness.

    Well done Porsche, this is a huge step forwards and strikes a perfect balance between Porsche design elements and the future.

    It will look absolutely fantastic!! 


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 
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    1984 BMW 323i 5spd 2.3L 141 hp (105 kW) More door. Black on black (parting out) 
    1986 BMW 325e 5spd 2.7L 121 hp (172 lb·ft) Le Mans Blau on Tan leather.
    1986 BMW 325is 5spd 2.5L 168 hp (164 lb-ft) White on Tan leather (parted out) 
    2005 Ford Focus S, 5spd 2.0L 136 hp (120lb-ft) CD silver on grey (sold)
    1986 Porsche 944, 5spd 2.5L 150 hp (168lb-ft) champagne gold on grown leather. (sold)


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    trip:

    I love everything but the wheels. Can't wait to hear the RS spyder engine in street trim!

    I wonder how to clean those wheels. Perhaps they shed no dust as most braking is regenerative.

    Nice concept. It's probably the best parallel hybrid design. Hybrid to satisfy the echo pressure and the penalty is added mass, unfortunately.

     


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    A. Dias --- 997.2S. Previous cars: Corvette C6,  996 C4.


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

     Hmmm..... The side shot, the front, and interior look great, and the top view looks awesome.   The rear seems like it's lacking something, big emptiness in the middle. The wheels are hideous , and I don't like the exhaust on the side....maybe that's what's lacking in the back. Don't know about the rocket launchers either.


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    JP66, i think most of your concerns will not make it into the street 918 as they are concept. I don't see the exhaust, and tail lights make it in this exact form. Same goes for the rims, its a concept!! 

     


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 
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    1984 BMW 323i 5spd 2.3L 141 hp (105 kW) More door. Black on black (parting out) 
    1986 BMW 325e 5spd 2.7L 121 hp (172 lb·ft) Le Mans Blau on Tan leather.
    1986 BMW 325is 5spd 2.5L 168 hp (164 lb-ft) White on Tan leather (parted out) 
    2005 Ford Focus S, 5spd 2.0L 136 hp (120lb-ft) CD silver on grey (sold)
    1986 Porsche 944, 5spd 2.5L 150 hp (168lb-ft) champagne gold on grown leather. (sold)


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    Guess there is a certain historical reference for the styling of the rims and the exhaust outlets:

    1982_956_800x600.jpg


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    This must have been what it was like when Porsche unveiled the 917 or the first 911 Turbo: An adacious statement of intent.

     

    Porsche has nailed this is so, so, many ways!


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    Ferdie:

    Guess there is a certain historical reference for the styling of the rims and the exhaust outlets:

    1982_956_800x600.jpg

    Exactly.  The front lights, single windshield wiper......SmileySmiley.


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT successor ?

    Isn't it drawing from the 917

    porsche_917_niot.net (6).jpg


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 
    _____________________________________________________________________
    1984 BMW 323i 5spd 2.3L 141 hp (105 kW) More door. Black on black (parting out) 
    1986 BMW 325e 5spd 2.7L 121 hp (172 lb·ft) Le Mans Blau on Tan leather.
    1986 BMW 325is 5spd 2.5L 168 hp (164 lb-ft) White on Tan leather (parted out) 
    2005 Ford Focus S, 5spd 2.0L 136 hp (120lb-ft) CD silver on grey (sold)
    1986 Porsche 944, 5spd 2.5L 150 hp (168lb-ft) champagne gold on grown leather. (sold)


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    KresoF1:
    Ron (Houston):

    Now, this is called a beautiful design Smiley Smiley Smiley.


    It seems to me that I am the only one here who thinks that 918 is not a very nice design at all...Smiley

    Spyker had a sex with CGT while using some Talidomid= new 918...Smiley

    Interior? Mclaren MP4-12C + CGT + Ferrari inspired steering wheel...

    It is IMHO the worst Porsche design in last 20 years.

     No Kreso you'e not the only one.

    It amazes me how the Carrera GT with its clean design lines, still looks the best looking Porsche until this very day. I thought is there was going to be a successor, it'd improve of the GT looks.


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

     

    Porsche Intelligent Performance - The next spark

      

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5tn2Kerwyc&feature=player_embedded


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    shin:
    KresoF1:
    Ron (Houston):

    Now, this is called a beautiful design Smiley Smiley Smiley.


    It seems to me that I am the only one here who thinks that 918 is not a very nice design at all...Smiley

    Spyker had a sex with CGT while using some Talidomid= new 918...Smiley

    Interior? Mclaren MP4-12C + CGT + Ferrari inspired steering wheel...

    It is IMHO the worst Porsche design in last 20 years.

     No Kreso you'e not the only one.

    It amazes me how the Carrera GT with its clean design lines, still looks the best looking Porsche until this very day. I thought is there was going to be a successor, it'd improve of the GT looks.

     

    This is no copy of anyone. If anything is an interpretation of Porsche Motorsports - 917, 956, etc.


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    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    ADias:
    shin:
    KresoF1:
    Ron (Houston):

    Now, this is called a beautiful design Smiley Smiley Smiley.


    It seems to me that I am the only one here who thinks that 918 is not a very nice design at all...Smiley

    Spyker had a sex with CGT while using some Talidomid= new 918...Smiley

    Interior? Mclaren MP4-12C + CGT + Ferrari inspired steering wheel...

    It is IMHO the worst Porsche design in last 20 years.

     No Kreso you'e not the only one.

    It amazes me how the Carrera GT with its clean design lines, still looks the best looking Porsche until this very day. I thought is there was going to be a successor, it'd improve of the GT looks.

     

    This is no copy of anyone. If anything is an interpretation of Porsche Motorsports - 917, 956, etc.


    Completely agree Smiley


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

    Some thoughts and opinions:

    1. My first thoughts when I saw the first pictures last night, was that I now knew where Uwe Gemballa has been hiding. My next thought was perhaps this was why he was hiding!

    This morning I have had a chance to look at some better pictures and I must confess that the car looks much, much better.

    2. It's good to see that the rumor that was circulating about one year ago was in fact true.

    3. I really don't like those wheels.

    4. The front is very reminiscent of the F430.

    5. I cant wait to see what the road and racing versions will look like.

    6. good to see Porsche design team moving further than redesigning rear lights and weird back doors.

     


    Re: Porsche surprise in Geneva - concept of CGT succesor ?

     The facts and figures sure look impressive. the first pics i saw really made me think that porsche was loosing it, but now that i've seen better ones and analyzed the car in detail i think its a step out of their comfort zone but indeed a great first step in a more modern design direction that still carries over basic porsche dna and heritage. all in all i think its a great concept car for porsche, although i agree that the wheels are awful 


     
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