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Usually if I am not happy with any of my car, I dump it as fast as I can. It will be gone before I even know it myself. I don't go on line and complain about the quality of it and hold on to the car, but everyone is different, I guess.

Isn't that what we did?

After selling my car, I would stop checking 997TT forum and If I had just gotten a brand new BMW 335 becasue I couldn't afford the 997TT and I was way over my head in debt, I would start attending the 335forum and start all over again

What a pretentious, bitter, person you must be. I won't even banter with over you ridiculous, insensitive statements.

Beisdes, what is wrong with the BMW 335. Especially as a daily driver? Does your turbo make you a MAN? How's that go; the more expensive the car the more he's compensating? What are you compensating for? Silver rules, kind of like; "chicks rule", isn't it!

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Usually if I am not happy with any of my car, I dump it as fast as I can. It will be gone before I even know it myself. I don't go on line and complain about the quality of it and hold on to the car, but everyone is different, I guess.

Isn't that what we did?

After selling my car, I would stop checking 997TT forum and If I had just gotten a brand new BMW 335 becasue I couldn't afford the 997TT and I was way over my head in debt, I would start attending the 335forum and start all over again

What a pretentious, bitter, person you must be. I won't even banter with over you ridiculous, insensitive statements.

Beisdes, what is wrong with the BMW 335. Especially as a daily driver? Does your turbo make you a MAN? How's that go; the more expensive the car the more he's compensating? What are you compensating for? Silver rules, kind of like; "chicks rule", isn't it!

You should stop using your dads computer before he find out.

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VKSF said:I typically drive my '07 CL600 faster than I did my prior '07 SL65 (despite some 100 less hp/lb-ft) simply b/c 65's poor traction on uneven surfaces/wet roads saps confidence/driving pleasure.....

Will trade-in my 600 for the CL63 in Mar, w/some 150 less lb-ft, b/c IMO more important than raw power/0-xxx times are attributes like steering precision/brake pedal feel/exhaust note/susp tightness/paddleshifters/traction/damping and cross-wind stability, etc....

Doubt any aftermkt maker can develop a particularly balanced car, simply b/c of their lack of R&D scale....would argue 65 is a great example of a factory-spec imbalanced car...too much tq for chassis, leading to a lack of traction even in mundane driving for a daily commuter car....

Suspect 599 and S/CL63 will offer best balance of speed/driving feel&precision/comfort/practicality...

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I think this is more to do with driver confidence and ability than the small
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I think this is more to do with driver confidence and ability than the small
difference between Gallardo and 997tt, you make it sound like what you did would
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Not impossible, just less confidence-inspiring.

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Usually if I am not happy with any of my car, I dump it as fast as I can. It will be gone before I even know it myself. I don't go on line and complain about the quality of it and hold on to the car, but everyone is different, I guess.

Isn't that what we did?

After selling my car, I would stop checking 997TT forum and If I had just gotten a brand new BMW 335 becasue I couldn't afford the 997TT and I was way over my head in debt, I would start attending the 335forum and start all over again

What a pretentious, bitter, person you must be. I won't even banter with over you ridiculous, insensitive statements.

Beisdes, what is wrong with the BMW 335. Especially as a daily driver? Does your turbo make you a MAN? How's that go; the more expensive the car the more he's compensating? What are you compensating for? Silver rules, kind of like; "chicks rule", isn't it!

You should stop using your dads computer before he find out.

Will the pretentious, bitter person and the guy using dad's computer please stop squabbling? Because if you don't, I will have to remind you that there's also the GT2 if you need to add extra inches .

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I think this is more to do with driver confidence and ability than the small
difference between Gallardo and 997tt, you make it sound like what you did would
have been impossible in a Gallardo.

Not impossible, just less confidence-inspiring.

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One of the problems with people who buy very high end sports cars is that they always love the next great car and the one they just bought is just not what they thought it was going to be. .. The next best does not make be better. I make myself better...not some pile of metal. The 997 TT is a great car. The Ferrari 430 is a great car. None of them will make you better person.

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I think I disagree. Nick's F430 makes him a better person than the rest of us. At least that what I take away from his dead-horse-beating-posts.

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One of the problems with people who buy very high end sports cars is that they always love the next great car and the one they just bought is just not what they thought it was going to be. .. The next best does not make be better. I make myself better...not some pile of metal. The 997 TT is a great car. The Ferrari 430 is a great car. None of them will make you better person.

I think I disagree. Nick's F430 makes him a better person than the rest of us. At least that what I take away from his dead-horse-beating-posts.

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Also, MKSGR tested TWO different M6s against his 996TT X50 and the stock M6 was slower than the Turbo above 240 km/h, while the tuned M6 kept up with him, but couldn't overtake him.

The first sentence is correct. It was my stock M6. The second sentence is wrong: the 996TT X50 was slower then the tuned M6 in every situation.

Sorry for the misinformation. I must've misunderstood Markus then.

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My interpretation: the M6 was able to overtake given the aearodynamic benefits of the slipstream. ...

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My interpretation: the M6 was able to overtake given the aearodynamic benefits of the slipstream. ...

Yes Markus. This huge slipstream was made by Ferdinand Porsche himself.....

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My interpretation: the M6 was able to overtake given the aearodynamic benefits of the slipstream. ...

Yes Markus. This huge slipstream was made by Ferdinand Porsche himself.....

Actually, I am quite serious about the slipstream...

In particular, why would the M6 suddenly stop pulling faster after passing my Porsche i.e. after the slipstream was gone? And that is excatly what happened

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My interpretation: the M6 was able to overtake given the aearodynamic benefits of the slipstream. ...

Yes Markus. This huge slipstream was made by Ferdinand Porsche himself.....

Actually, I am quite serious about the slipstream...

In particular, why would the M6 suddenly stop pulling faster after passing my Porsche i.e. after the slipstream was gone? And that is excatly what happened

You're probably right. The aerodynamic advantage could be great at such speeds and it would certainly explain the slowdown afterwards. You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

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My interpretation: the M6 was able to overtake given the aearodynamic benefits of the slipstream. ...

Yes Markus. This huge slipstream was made by Ferdinand Porsche himself.....

Actually, I am quite serious about the slipstream...

In particular, why would the M6 suddenly stop pulling faster after passing my Porsche i.e. after the slipstream was gone? And that is excatly what happened

You're probably right. The aerodynamic advantage could be great at such speeds and it would certainly explain the slowdown afterwards. You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

P.S.: I am really amazed how many posts have been made over a period of two weeks... Just returned from a vacation (with irregular checks of email/rennteam). There is a lot of stuff to read now

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

When will you get your 599? Spring 07?

@turbosteff
Nice to read you here

Best Regards
TambourCH

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

When will you get your 599? Spring 07?

@turbosteff
Nice to read you here

Best Regards
TambourCH

Spring 07 would be nice. I ordered much too late I am afraid (October). My car will arrive more like Dec07 or Jan08

However: no pain no gain

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

When will you get your 599? Spring 07?

@turbosteff
Nice to read you here

Best Regards
TambourCH

Spring 07 would be nice. I ordered much too late I am afraid (October). My car will arrive more like Dec07 or Jan08

However: no pain no gain

December is the perfect month for delivery of a new Ferrari.

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

When will you get your 599? Spring 07?

@turbosteff
Nice to read you here

Best Regards
TambourCH

Spring 07 would be nice. I ordered much too late I am afraid (October). My car will arrive more like Dec07 or Jan08

However: no pain no gain

December is the perfect month for delivery of a new Ferrari.

You are really a nice guy

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You are exactly right. What kind of a nice guy would he be without a healthy dose of sadistic sarcasm?

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In the last couple of weeks I told Markus several times that it would be a pleasure form me to drive up and down the street in front of Markus house. That give's him hard times without a sports car during summer. To hear the sound of my 997TT.....

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..... You should try doing it in the 599, to see if it helps .

What was the reason for Markus buying a 599? After this challenge with the M6 he was so frustrated that he sold his 996 immediately. So he made sure not to lose a second challenge.
What is the end of this story? Markus convinced me of the advantages of a turbo and I will get a 997TT tip in summer .

No, he knew he could beat an M6. He simply had to get rid of the car and with the new Turbo being too slow for him, he got himself an adequately fast vehicle.

You know my motives

P.S.: turbosteff is just trying to tease me However, without success

When will you get your 599? Spring 07?

@turbosteff
Nice to read you here

Best Regards
TambourCH

Spring 07 would be nice. I ordered much too late I am afraid (October). My car will arrive more like Dec07 or Jan08

However: no pain no gain

December is the perfect month for delivery of a new Ferrari.

You are really a nice guy

You are exactly right. What kind of a nice guy would he be without a healthy dose of sadistic sarcasm?