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Nov 7, 2016 12:40:01 PM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015

Autocar BBDC

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/britains-best-drivers-car-contenders

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/britains-best-drivers-car-final-three

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/britains-best-drivers-car-winner

McLaren 675LT Spider 1min 35.7sec

Ferrari 488 GTB 1min 36.9sec

McLaren 570S 1min 37.9sec

P orsche 911 R 1min 38.7sec

BMW M4 GTS 1min 40.4sec

Porsche 718 Cayman S 1min 41.2sec

Jaguar F-Type SVR 1min 41.2sec

Honda NSX 1min 41.7sec

Aston Martin Vantage GT8 1min 42.9sec

BMW M2 1min 44.4sec

Ford Focus RS 1min 46.3sec

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Nov 7, 2016 1:12:23 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59424, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Autocar BBDC

This definitely makes much more sense... Now compare this to the EVO list and suddenly, things look very weird.

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Nov 7, 2016 1:19:29 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: RC

Re: Autocar BBDC

Wooo what do you know, some crappy 911 got first place because it has a manual transmission.

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Nov 7, 2016 1:30:03 PM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: noone1

Re: Autocar BBDC

noone1:
Wooo what do you know, some crappy 911 got first place because it has a manual transmission.

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Nov 7, 2016 1:37:20 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Autocar BBDC

Hardly. There have been manual 911 GT3 cars for ages. This one is a strokefest because it doesn't have a wing.

As always, the best drivers car is the one whose keys people reach for. Offer up the keys to everyone and tell them they get to keep the car for free for 2 years and see which they reach for. Guaranteed the 911 keys stick around a lot longer than a 675LT Spider or 488.

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Nov 7, 2016 2:15:58 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59424, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

Re: Autocar BBDC

Well...the GT3 made it to the top lists basically all the time, so... yes

Considering the price tag, performance, appeal and technology, the Ferrari 488 probably deserves the title best driver's car this year.

The 911 R won because it is a limited edition car and car journalists were crazy about it.

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Nov 8, 2016 2:54:17 AM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: RC

Re: Autocar BBDC

BMW needs to step up their game. The M4 GTS performance isn't that impressive in every test out there.

NSX slower than a Cayman

Took them so long to make that car and it came out with a bland design and underperforming in every test even though it has alot of tech. The nearly 1900kg doesn't help

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Nov 8, 2016 3:27:32 AM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1473, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: Autocar BBDC

Topspeed:

NSX slower than a Cayman

I actually find this result to be rather insulting. NSX used to be an icon in Japan for the longest time. This track result is really sad and hard to swallow. Smiley

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Nov 8, 2016 3:43:49 AM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: Targa Tim

Re: Autocar BBDC

Official tires

In last Autocar super test of best driver car:

675LT - (Pirelli P Zero TrofeoR) 1.35.7
488 GTB - (Pirelli P Zero) 1.36.9
570s - (Pirelli P Zero Corsa) 1.37.9
911 R - (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2) 1.38.7
M4 GTS - (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2) 1.40.4
718 Cayman S - (Pirelli P Zero) 1.41.2
F-Type SVR - (Pirelli P Zero) 1.41.2
NSX (Continental ContiSportContact 5P) 1.41.7
AM Vantage GT8 - (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2) 1.42.9
M2 - (Michelin Pilot Super Sport) 1.44.4
Focus RS - (Michelin Pilot Super Sport) 1.46.3

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Nov 8, 2016 9:39:55 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59424, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Autocar BBDC

Most impressive (from a performance/price point of view) is actually the 718 Cayman S in my opinion.

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Nov 8, 2016 9:45:02 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: RC

Re: Autocar BBDC

Though it's only impressive in this limited line up.

What's a 718 s cost? $80-90k after options?

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Nov 8, 2016 10:07:05 AM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: noone1

Re: Autocar BBDC

Surely, impressive in a lineup of cars which should all be impressive is still impressive?

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Nov 8, 2016 10:16:13 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: fritz

Re: Autocar BBDC

fritz:
Surely, impressive in a lineup of cars which should all be impressive is still impressive?

Impressive sentence Smiley

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Nov 8, 2016 10:17:44 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59424, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Autocar BBDC

bluelines:
fritz:
Surely, impressive in a lineup of cars which should all be impressive is still impressive?

Impressive sentence

My head still Smiley Smiley

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Nov 11, 2016 7:02:44 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: Autocar BBDC

RC:
Most impressive (from a performance/price point of view) is actually the 718 Cayman S in my opinion.

That'll be my Porsche of choice right now, and It looks fantastic too Smiley

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