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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Strange choice for the name, I would find it more appropriate for a boat/yacht.  Good looking Ferrari.


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Is that suppose to be the California's replacement? Guessing changing the name from the USA to Italy will bring it up market a bit 


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Whoopsy:

    Is that suppose to be the California's replacement? Guessing changing the name from the USA to Italy will bring it up market a bit 

    Yes California replacement . I think the front is a big improvement .



    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    I agree, big improvement in design vs California


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    nice.....not more yes


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    love it .. the California's pretty sister


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Headlight evolution angry


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Guess the California T wasn't selling too well. It came out in late 2014 and is already replaced.


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    noone1:

    Guess the California T wasn't selling too well. It came out in late 2014 and is already replaced.

    Three years...I don't see a problem, time for something new. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    noone1:

    Guess the California T wasn't selling too well. It came out in late 2014 and is already replaced.

    This is a normal product cycle for Ferrari.


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    crayphile:
    noone1:

    Guess the California T wasn't selling too well. It came out in late 2014 and is already replaced.

    This is a normal product cycle for Ferrari.

    Huh? All their recent cars haven't debuted until like 5-6 years after the previous one. Cali was Oct 2008, Cali T was Feb 2014.

    This one is showing up only 3.5 years after Cali T.

    599 -- Geneva 06
    F12 -- Geneva 12
    430 -- Oct 2004
    458 -- Oct 2009
    488 -- March 2015
    FF -- March 2011
    GTC4 -- Sept 2016
     


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Whoopsy:
    Is that suppose to be the California's replacement? Guessing changing the name from the USA to Italy will bring it up market a bit 


     

    I was going to say the same, but didn't want to be banned for Political speech Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    The time of replacement is pretty much as expected. Cali did not follow normal Ferrari cycles: 09 Cali 13 Cali 30 15 Cali T 18 Port. Rumor is the back seats have a little bit more room.


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Same price range as the T?

    I always thought the California was the Boxster of the Ferrari line. The Portofino changes nothing.


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    roof up, the lines are perfect

    it's the best looking production Ferrari to my eyes


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    is the Dino still happening?


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    nberry:

    Same price range as the T?

    I always thought the California was the Boxster of the Ferrari line. The Portofino changes nothing.

    I'm not a fan of open top cars, no matter the brand....

    But the entry level horsepower now starts with a 6xx hp, unlike others, that drug you with some slogans and a sped up video using the wrong tacho for a different model around the track with a ground breaking lap time and hardly bumping up the power within it's lifetime cycle, squeezing you through nonsense options and leather between the thighs and glutes + extra charge for an open top using cloth roof in this day and age Smiley


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    A worthy successor of the fantastic California. The only downside is the turbo engine but at least it has 600hp which is plenty for most. Looking forward to try to scoop one up in a couple of years.


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Looking at it more, it looks very generic. Cali T was love it or hate it I guess, but at least it was a possible "love it". This is just meh. I think the T is better looking on the outside. Interior is obviously better on the Portofino since it's newer.

    I don't know why they're trying to make this aggressive looking. It's not an aggressive model and shouldn't be. It's a casual cruiser for women.


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Grant:

    is the Dino still happening?

    No one is sure. They are too busy planning the FUV Smiley (Ferrari Utility Vehicle)


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    crayphile:
    Grant:

    is the Dino still happening?

    No one is sure. They are too busy planning the FUV Smiley (Ferrari Utility Vehicle)

    Ok, thanks


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    noone1:

    Looking at it more, it looks very generic. Cali T was love it or hate it I guess, but at least it was a possible "love it". This is just meh. I think the T is better looking on the outside. Interior is obviously better on the Portofino since it's newer.

    I don't know why they're trying to make this aggressive looking. It's not an aggressive model and shouldn't be. It's a casual cruiser for women.

    The California might have started as a cruiser but now it has 600hp and they gave it the look to go with it, nothing wrong with that. They also made the ride more sportier as customers demanded it. It will surely sell very well and Ferrari knows that this is an almost unique product (hard roof convertible, 4 seats, 600hp sporty drive with the associated look and brand name exclusivity).

    Resale value is also much better % wise than a 911, which says a lot about how well the car is perceived and simply how good it is.


    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    SciFrog:

    Resale value is also much better % wise than a 911, which says a lot about how well the car is perceived and simply how good it is.

    Not here in CH. The Cali is depreciating in % like a 911, which in absolute value is much more than a 911.

    Also, if you measure good in lap times the 911 is better. I bet this thing is not much faster than a Boxter Spyder around the Ring, because the Cali T was not faster than a 18 year old 360 Modena around Fiorano.


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Also, image wise the Cali never enjoyed the same image level as the other Ferrari models IMO


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    Also, the name is stupid. The fishing village Ferrari indecision


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    Re: Ferrari Portofino

    bluelines:

    Also, the name is stupid. The fishing village Ferrari indecision

    Its better than The Ferrari, The Ferrari .


     
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