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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Mikla:

    Autocar review: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-frankfurt-motor-show/first-track-ride-new-porsche-911-carrera-s

     

    This statement makes me wonder about the value I would place on the rest of the stff he worte Smiley

    In standard fettle, the revised chassis is 10mm lower than its predecessor, and keen drivers can opt to go an additional 10mm south again by specifying a Sport chassis.

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Alex18_996CC:

     

    I really see 996 / 997 gt3 (all variants)growing even more in value, and 991 gt3 and specially RS too. Will porsche continue the next GT3 RS with the iconic 4.0l engine displacement ?? I really hope so.

     

    996 / 997 GT3 will never go up in value, those are mass production cars.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    In the UK, 997 GT3 are being advertised at around £70K so they are certainly asking more for them!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Check for 997.2 GT3 prices in the US. I would say they are retaining value extremely well...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    AS4s:

    Check for 997.2 GT3 prices in the US. I would say they are retaining value extremely well...

    And RS & 4.0 are more than MSRP (4.0 is double)


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I will be at the Porsche press conference in Frankfurt this coming Tuesday morning, the 15th.  I will post pics and impressions then.  If anyone wants me to ask a particular question during press days, let me know--with the understanding that Porsche reps are always very reserved and careful with their answers...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Wonderbar:

    I will be at the Porsche press conference in Frankfurt this coming Tuesday morning, the 15th.  I will post pics and impressions then.  If anyone wants me to ask a particular question during press days, let me know--with the understanding that Porsche reps are always very reserved and careful with their answers...

    Can we have confirmation that GT models will not be turbos, when will the 911 R be confirmed and what specs Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Info on the GT3 cabrio with rear seats please indecision


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    bluelines:

    Info on the GT3 cabrio with rear seats please indecision

    Along with a multi function steering wheel Smiley


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    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Ask also about the new Porsche Driverless option.

    I hear it will have multiple settings including Shopping mall driving-mode and for an extra, the Walter Rohrl track-mode. You just buckle up and it gives you hot laps in any track beating anyone actually trying to drive....It also comes with Oculus VR glasses that take advantage of the new Porsche connect so you can stay home and your car goes to the track by itself while you watch it race from home.... Smiley     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Lukas:

    Video from driving 991.2 on Hockenheim. I think it sounds quite good from the inside and to my ears not very far off the 991.1 . The car in the vid has PSE and it's enabled... New PCM looks nice and the smaller GT-steering wheel looks also great!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27zX2y47BDE

    I like the size of the new GT steering wheel, but the design is an abortion. It is not internally consistent (the chrome ring around the horn has a traditional vibe that is at odds with the techno looking aluminum inserts with the visible screw heads. Furthermore, those inserts make the wheel look overly busy; and in any case, that whole aesthetic seems disconnected from the design of the rest of the interior. What is going on with these guys?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Wonderbar:

    I will be at the Porsche press conference in Frankfurt this coming Tuesday morning, the 15th.  I will post pics and impressions then.  If anyone wants me to ask a particular question during press days, let me know--with the understanding that Porsche reps are always very reserved and careful with their answers...

    Sounds great, Sydney.

    How about these two (quite simple) questions?

    1. Are the new tail lights of the 991.2 retrofittable on the 991.1? It kind of looks that way and I couldn't get a precise answer from any our sources.

    2. Are some true 650S and 488GTB competitors in the planning or did Porsche "give up"?

    Thanks. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RC:
    Wonderbar:

    I will be at the Porsche press conference in Frankfurt this coming Tuesday morning, the 15th.  I will post pics and impressions then.  If anyone wants me to ask a particular question during press days, let me know--with the understanding that Porsche reps are always very reserved and careful with their answers...

    Sounds great, Sydney.

    How about these two (quite simple) questions?

    1. Are the new tail lights of the 991.2 retrofittable on the 991.1? It kind of looks that way and I couldn't get a precise answer from any our sources.

    2. Are some true 650S and 488GTB competitors in the planning or did Porsche "give up"?

    Thanks. Smiley

    and if they are not on a 488GTB competitor, please doublecheck with porsche whether they are finally working on a 900HP lambo - URUS competitor. at best in a targa version. we need that car!!!!!!! otherwise mums might refuse to bring their kids to soccer fields in the future. 

    peter

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RC:
    Wonderbar:

    I will be at the Porsche press conference in Frankfurt this coming Tuesday morning, the 15th.  I will post pics and impressions then.  If anyone wants me to ask a particular question during press days, let me know--with the understanding that Porsche reps are always very reserved and careful with their answers...

    Sounds great, Sydney.

    How about these two (quite simple) questions?

    1. Are the new tail lights of the 991.2 retrofittable on the 991.1? It kind of looks that way and I couldn't get a precise answer from any our sources.

    2. Are some true 650S and 488GTB competitors in the planning or did Porsche "give up"?

    Thanks. Smiley

    Christian,at point one i think i can answer,no.

    Becouse the inside part(the one that "look" the model designation) is slightly different than on the MK1,like it was on the 997MK2.So i think no,isn't retrofittable unfortunately.Also i like them!

    Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Wonderbar:

    I will be at the Porsche press conference in Frankfurt this coming Tuesday morning, the 15th.  I will post pics and impressions then.  If anyone wants me to ask a particular question during press days, let me know--with the understanding that Porsche reps are always very reserved and careful with their answers...

    Will there be a Boxster spyder with PDK? Rumours are going that the GT4 get's it...


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    965 3.3turbo/  993 targa / 996 cab /997S cab/996 GT3

    Audi R8  //  Audi A6 3.0 biturbo Quattro/Mini JCW/ 993 cab// boxster spyder on order


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Lukas:

    Video from driving 991.2 on Hockenheim. I think it sounds quite good from the inside and to my ears not very far off the 991.1 . The car in the vid has PSE and it's enabled... New PCM looks nice and the smaller GT-steering wheel looks also great!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27zX2y47BDE

    What makes you so sure that this is really the smaller one of the two steering wheel versions?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    This is the smaller GT steering wheel. Check out official Porsche price list in PDF, it is on Porsche German web page.

    In the mean time, Lava Orange...

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    KresoF1:

    This is the smaller GT steering wheel. Check out official Porsche price list in PDF, it is on Porsche German web page.

    In the mean time, Lava Orange...

    The car looks excellent! Much more in harmony than 991.1

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Showed the photo to my wife and first thing she asked: What is different? indecision

    Yes, the new 991.2 looks a bit more refined (no wonder, it is the 2nd generation) but the difference is minimal and only visible to people who know both cars.

    There are only two things I really like on the 991.2 over the 991.1:

    1. AWS (all wheel steering is amazing, makes the car feel more agile and lighter and in combination with PDCC, it is hard to beat)

    2. PCCB (finally the "right" larger disc sizes)

    Otherwise, I'm not impressed at all and I do not regret getting the "old" GTS, especially considering the new price hike.

    This may change with the powerkit and other (new) versions along the way but so far, I am happy with the GTS.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RC:

    ... but the difference is minimal and only visible to people who know both cars.


    As it always has been with a Porsche facelift. Smiley


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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Rossi:
    RC:

    ... but the difference is minimal and only visible to people who know both cars.


    As it always has been with a Porsche facelift. Smiley

    Nope. The 997.2 facelift was clearly visible. My wife didn't like the "japanese" tail lights, first thing she noticed. Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    To 99.99% of all people, Porsche facelifts are identical indecision

    The 991.2 looks good in Salmon Pink kiss smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Btw: My wife only noticed the new 991.2 tail lights after I told her to look closer. Like me, she finds the "unfinished" shape a bit strange but maybe we are getting used to it.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Lars997:
    KresoF1:

    This is the smaller GT steering wheel. Check out official Porsche price list in PDF, it is on Porsche German web page.

    In the mean time, Lava Orange...

    The car looks excellent! Much more in harmony than 991.1

     

    Great looking car! i never liked the former blinkers... far more refined!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I agree, the new turn signal lights are much better looking than the old ones.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Wonder if they'll "point" like the new Audi TT ones do? (always reminds me of NYC for some reason)


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    991 Carrera Black\Black, XC90 Black\Black, 120 Cab Black\Coral Red - 2 kids, 1 dog


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    To my eyes 991.2 C4S looks even better.

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    In the first image the left flank appears swollen, but the side profile is nice


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    mcdelaug:

    In the first image the left flank appears swollen, but the side profile is nice

    One of the things I love about the 991 C4 is how the tail light illumination looks at night with that illuminated middle strip. Not sure if the 991.2 C4 will get that anymore (haven't seen it twice on occasions).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RC:
    Rossi:
    RC:

    ... but the difference is minimal and only visible to people who know both cars.


    As it always has been with a Porsche facelift. Smiley

    Nope. The 997.2 facelift was clearly visible. My wife didn't like the "japanese" tail lights, first thing she noticed. Smiley Smiley


    I'd say the change from 997.1 to 997.2 at the rear was as visible as the change from 991.1 to 991.2 at the front. Smiley


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