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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Gnil:

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


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    488 Pista is a beauty Smiley

    You never considered a Fezza, Gnil ?


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

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    BjoernB:

    speciales have lost some value here - I have a friend she wants to get rid of her yellow one - swiss market is full of them

    'She', with a Speciale? Why have you not introduced her here yet? SmileySmiley

    Haha - she even has a more Ferraris and Porsche's - but  no-one can handle.....Smiley 


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    throt:
    Gnil:

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    488 Pista is a beauty Smiley

    You never considered a Fezza, Gnil ?

    I liked the Speciale but I do not find the Pista attractive. 

    The only Ferrari I could see myself in are the V12 ( or the F40 Smiley ) . But I don't have deep enough pockets to have it all  Smiley

    Don't know why but I can see myself much better in a Mc , a Lambo then in a mid engine Ferrari. It is probably associated to the kind of owners and the message that is sent to the general crowd  when driving them (even if unwanted )  and the fact I don't like to draw that kind of attention.... cool yes, flash no Smiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Gnil:

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    The Pista is an amazing sports car but the Speciale is...special. Smiley N/a engine, he will regret it sooner or later. 

    I had my Performante picked up by a specialized sports car transport company two days ago because I need a new catalytic converter (engine light is on for weeks now and they couldn't find any issue, car seems to behave normal, so Lamborghini said a new catalytic converter is needed), the car has almost 13000 km. Also the car needs to get the winter wheels mounted.

    The owner of this transport company saw the Performante and told me that I should never sell this car. I asked why and he told me that he is talking to so many sports car owners, often collectors, in his job and that the Performante has become very popular with these people lately, so "it must mean something".

    I guess many are afraid that n/a cars are disappearing, so... Smiley

    perf222.jpg

     


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    popular lately because it is coming cheap and many are starting to grab them. good value for the perf.

     


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Gnil:
    throt:
    Gnil:

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


    --

     

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    488 Pista is a beauty Smiley

    You never considered a Fezza, Gnil ?

    I liked the Speciale but I do not find the Pista attractive. 

    The only Ferrari I could see myself in are the V12 ( or the F40 Smiley ) . But I don't have deep enough pockets to have it all  Smiley

    Don't know why but I can see myself much better in a Mc , a Lambo then in a mid engine Ferrari. It is probably associated to the kind of owners and the message that is sent to the general crowd  when driving them (even if unwanted )  and the fact I don't like to draw that kind of attention.... cool yes, flash no Smiley


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    Haha, 

    I just have this Ferrari itch but then a Macca itch too Smiley

    Not so long ago, Speciale’s topped out at 350k GBP, not now though, think 250’s now, depending on mileage.

    I was offered one for 250k at a dealer in Egham ( near Heathrow ) years back, just after I got my first GT3. She had 500 on the clock. Always think back about it so that says it all Smiley.

    Jeeps, the GT3 attracts attention, Fezza and the Macca would be on a different level. Don’t like attention but it wouldn’t stop me either Smiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    the-missile:

    popular lately because it is coming cheap and many are starting to grab them. good value for the perf.

     

    Give it another 5 month or so then you’ll see some bargains, imo.Smiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    the-missile:

    popular lately because it is coming cheap and many are starting to grab them. good value for the perf.

     

    Cheap? My dealer sold the last Coupe at 237k EUR with 8000 km onboard. I paid 251k for mine (MSRP 275k), new. Smiley I do believe the prices will go down, under 220k EUR, once the new STO/STS shows up but I doubt prices will go below 200k once people realize that the future of the "Huracan" is...V8 biturbo and hybrid. Smiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    RC:
    the-missile:

    popular lately because it is coming cheap and many are starting to grab them. good value for the perf.

     

    Cheap? My dealer sold the last Coupe at 237k EUR with 8000 km onboard. I paid 251k for mine (MSRP 275k), new. Smiley I do believe the prices will go down, under 220k EUR, once the new STO/STS shows up but I doubt prices will go below 200k once people realize that the future of the "Huracan" is...V8 biturbo and hybrid. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)

     

    biturbo and hybrid

    You pulling our plonkers, buddy SmileySmiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    The next gen Huracan is supposed to get close to 700 hp, maybe even more (top version). With a turbo charged engine, this is much easier. Aventador sticks to a hybrid V12 n/a engine with over 800 hp (top model could hit 900 and more). Smiley 


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    RC:

    The next gen Huracan is supposed to get close to 700 hp, maybe even more (top version). With a turbo charged engine, this is much easier. Aventador sticks to a hybrid V12 n/a engine with over 800 hp (top model could hit 900 and more). Smiley 

    900 ponies Smiley

    You got bush 🤔


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    throt:
    Gnil:
    throt:
    Gnil:

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


    --

     

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    488 Pista is a beauty Smiley

    You never considered a Fezza, Gnil ?

    I liked the Speciale but I do not find the Pista attractive. 

    The only Ferrari I could see myself in are the V12 ( or the F40 Smiley ) . But I don't have deep enough pockets to have it all  Smiley

    Don't know why but I can see myself much better in a Mc , a Lambo then in a mid engine Ferrari. It is probably associated to the kind of owners and the message that is sent to the general crowd  when driving them (even if unwanted )  and the fact I don't like to draw that kind of attention.... cool yes, flash no Smiley


    --

     

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    Haha, 

    I just have this Ferrari itch but then a Macca itch too Smiley

    Not so long ago, Speciale’s topped out at 350k GBP, not now though, think 250’s now, depending on mileage.

    I was offered one for 250k at a dealer in Egham ( near Heathrow ) years back, just after I got my first GT3. She had 500 on the clock. Always think back about it so that says it all Smiley.

    Jeeps, the GT3 attracts attention, Fezza and the Macca would be on a different level. Don’t like attention but it wouldn’t stop me either Smiley

    Buy one in Switzerland. For 225k  GBP you get already a  nice one.  Our market is saturated with high end sports cars. 

    Same price for a Performante, but with hardly any miles 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    RC:
    the-missile:

    popular lately because it is coming cheap and many are starting to grab them. good value for the perf.

     

    Cheap? My dealer sold the last Coupe at 237k EUR with 8000 km onboard. I paid 251k for mine (MSRP 275k), new. Smiley I do believe the prices will go down, under 220k EUR, once the new STO/STS shows up but I doubt prices will go below 200k once people realize that the future of the "Huracan" is...V8 biturbo and hybrid. Smiley

    the performante is at 200KEuros in UAE without even discussing and will go down further. Sorry to hurt you for this but this is reality. the Spyder version is at 225K without even talking price. Once the top track focused will show up, it will take another dent. you have a biased view on the Performante, the market for this price is like any other Huracan, fairly small.


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Isn‘t this the Macca Thread? 

    Don‘t we have a Lambo section anyways?

    🤷🏼‍♂️


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    The Lambo section is for talking about McLarens.


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Speciale price have started to come back down, here it's dropped below when I sold mine. The peak have passed.

     


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Gnil:
    throt:
    Gnil:
    throt:
    Gnil:

    I friend has owned the scud, the speciale and now the Pista and a bunch of other Ferraris + Porsche GT's.

    He drives his Ferrari's a good amount , also tracks them. He took the Pista to the Ring this summer when we went together. 

    When he sold the Speciale he thought he made a mistake and that it was the best Ferrari he ever owned. After a few weeks in the Pista he has no regrets. He finds the car so much better in all senses compared to the Speciale. I was very surprised when he told me this. 


    --

     

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    488 Pista is a beauty Smiley

    You never considered a Fezza, Gnil ?

    I liked the Speciale but I do not find the Pista attractive. 

    The only Ferrari I could see myself in are the V12 ( or the F40 Smiley ) . But I don't have deep enough pockets to have it all  Smiley

    Don't know why but I can see myself much better in a Mc , a Lambo then in a mid engine Ferrari. It is probably associated to the kind of owners and the message that is sent to the general crowd  when driving them (even if unwanted )  and the fact I don't like to draw that kind of attention.... cool yes, flash no Smiley


    --

     

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    Haha, 

    I just have this Ferrari itch but then a Macca itch too Smiley

    Not so long ago, Speciale’s topped out at 350k GBP, not now though, think 250’s now, depending on mileage.

    I was offered one for 250k at a dealer in Egham ( near Heathrow ) years back, just after I got my first GT3. She had 500 on the clock. Always think back about it so that says it all Smiley.

    Jeeps, the GT3 attracts attention, Fezza and the Macca would be on a different level. Don’t like attention but it wouldn’t stop me either Smiley

    Buy one in Switzerland. For 225k  GBP you get already a  nice one.  Our market is saturated with high end sports cars. 

    Same price for a Performante, but with hardly any miles 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    I think with transportation, docs etc etc, the price would end up near what I can get one here for, surely.

    Perfs, Speciale's, they have not bottomed out yet either.


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Whoopsy:

    The Lambo section is for talking about McLarens.

    Smiley


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Lord_Driftalot:

    Isn‘t this the Macca Thread? 

    It used to be the R8 thread. All threads were R8 threads back then. Now all threads are Lambo threads.


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    bluelines:
    Lord_Driftalot:

    Isn‘t this the Macca Thread? 

    It used to be the R8 thread. All threads were R8 threads back then. Now all threads are Lambo threads.

    GT Lambo, the special one. indecision


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    the-missile:
    bluelines:
    Lord_Driftalot:

    Isn‘t this the Macca Thread? 

    It used to be the R8 thread. All threads were R8 threads back then. Now all threads are Lambo threads.

    GT Lambo, the special one. indecision

    It might even be..... wait..... a keeper.....Smiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Heh, keeper = 24 months 


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    the-missile:
    RC:
    the-missile:

    popular lately because it is coming cheap and many are starting to grab them. good value for the perf.

     

    Cheap? My dealer sold the last Coupe at 237k EUR with 8000 km onboard. I paid 251k for mine (MSRP 275k), new. Smiley I do believe the prices will go down, under 220k EUR, once the new STO/STS shows up but I doubt prices will go below 200k once people realize that the future of the "Huracan" is...V8 biturbo and hybrid. Smiley

    the performante is at 200KEuros in UAE without even discussing and will go down further. Sorry to hurt you for this but this is reality. the Spyder version is at 225K without even talking price. Once the top track focused will show up, it will take another dent. you have a biased view on the Performante, the market for this price is like any other Huracan, fairly small.

    UAE market cannot be compared to US or EU markets. Smiley

    Last time I was in the UAE, a friend who works there got an offer for a new G63, available at a local dealer, for under MSRP and immediate delivery. Try this in Germany. Smiley


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    If there is one car that is never under MSRP in the UAE, it's the G63. The waiting time now is 4 months for the 63 and 6-8 months for the 500. Other than that, I don't think there is a better buyers market for used luxury cars. The prices drop like a rock. An 812 is around 250k euros nowadays. A GT3 is around a 100k, good thing I got the Touring as that's the only Porsche that's holding it's value so far, not that I plan to ever sell it.


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    AP911:

    If there is one car that is never under MSRP in the UAE, it's the G63. The waiting time now is 4 months for the 63 and 6-8 months for the 500. Other than that, I don't think there is a better buyers market for used luxury cars. The prices drop like a rock. An 812 is around 250k euros nowadays. A GT3 is around a 100k, good thing I got the Touring as that's the only Porsche that's holding it's value so far, not that I plan to ever sell it.

    Offer was 3% under MSRP for a car in stock, independent dealer in Dubai in September. 

    In Germany, the waiting time for the G63 (at my factory dealership) is 14-18 months, I could get one ordered to specs in 13 months (not really that fast). Smiley No discount, zero. Lease rate pretty bad, "lease factor" is around 1.5 (I usually do not lease a car over a lease factor of 1, usually I get 0.7 to 0.8). I got an offer for a new fully loaded A45 S AMG for a lease factor of 1, still a bit too expensive in my opinion.


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    AP911:

    If there is one car that is never under MSRP in the UAE, it's the G63. The waiting time now is 4 months for the 63 and 6-8 months for the 500. Other than that, I don't think there is a better buyers market for used luxury cars. The prices drop like a rock. An 812 is around 250k euros nowadays. A GT3 is around a 100k, good thing I got the Touring as that's the only Porsche that's holding it's value so far, not that I plan to ever sell it.

    G63 are all over the place and all above retail price...I completely agree with you, for this car, you will never find one at dealership below retail price. it is flattening though and hope they keep saturating the market so I can go a buy a second hand with a good deal Smiley

    The 812 is so appealing and the F12 is already there Smiley the Speciale are the ones that stay steady as well.


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    bluelines:
    Lord_Driftalot:

    Isn‘t this the Macca Thread? 

    It used to be the R8 thread. All threads were R8 threads back then. Now all threads are Lambo threads.

    @bluelines

    Smiley Smiley


    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    Interesting the differences across the world - here in the US second hand car prices are very strong - obviously stronger for cars like GT3s and G63s but in talking to my dealers they can't get enough second hand cars since they are in such demand - hence holding up so well in price. 


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    Re: Mclaren 765LT

    EnglishManInNY:

    Interesting the differences across the world - here in the US second hand car prices are very strong - obviously stronger for cars like GT3s and G63s but in talking to my dealers they can't get enough second hand cars since they are in such demand - hence holding up so well in price. 

    It is basically impossible to get a G63 lease return car at an attractive price here in Germany, my dealer told me that all leased G63 are already spoken for once the lease expires. Or those who leased them buy them afterwards.


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